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vcr

2002-09-07, 10:34 pm

Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR
goa02

2002-09-19, 8:30 am

Hi vcr,

Can you share the materials of 9i ILT..My email address is goa0201@yahoo.com

Thanks..
Margus

2002-09-19, 9:26 am

I wish I had known b4 that You are giving everyone studymaterials for free!

But you know thats IT business -- if You are smart enough You can get everything for free (of course it requires time-consuming resarch)

VCR, I wanted to ask Your opinion about testking --> These are supposedly the Questions in the real exam and with answers (by PROs) and explanations.
Just reminds me our arguing about 'braindumps' --> testking is kind of LEGAL braindumps (50$ each?)..

Well since I already got testking and itpass.net I AM NOT AFRAID TO USE THOSE!!!

Well wish me luck on the exam, I plan to take it on this saturday or next Monday/Tuesday...

(Depends on when I get really cheap vouchers... can You believe it --> I think I migth be able to pay only 50$ for one oracle exam... Sounds like a good deal?)

OK, take care guys
rdrumski

2002-09-19, 10:24 am

Can I please have a copy also,
Thank you very much
RObert
rdrumski

2002-09-19, 10:26 am

Forgat my Email
r_drumski@yahoo.com
thanks
schosser

2002-09-20, 12:39 pm

Hi VCR

Could you send me your manuals ??
If yes my address is:

jurasco@t-online.de

Thanks a lot in advance.

Schocall
Margus

2002-09-20, 3:45 pm

Hey vcr,

How many ILTs you have to give out now,
just wondering...
Sakina

2002-09-20, 9:39 pm

Hi VCR

I have cleared 007 but request you to send me ILT for remaining pls.

Thanks
Sheba
Sakina

2002-09-20, 9:44 pm

HI VCR

Forgot to tell you which ILT I need.

If you have ILT for 031 and 032, could you pls forward them to

guide@emirates.net.ae

Thanks
Sheba
prasanth_kochi

2002-09-21, 6:01 am

Hi VCR,

Great to know that you have completed 9i OCA.
I am preparing for the same.Please give me the books and all that you had for preparing the OCA.Thanks in advance.
My mail-id is prasanthkp@eudoramail.com.

bye and take care,

prasanth
Sakina

2002-09-21, 9:25 am

Hi

I have only completed 9i SQL and not OCA. My preparation material was Sybex (BPB Publications) and STS test online for which time limit has expired. As for sending you the book, I am thousands of Km away from India so postal charges would be more than the price at which the book is available in India. I would advise you to get it from a source in India pls.

Do not rely completely on STS. Go through Oracle Technical Notes through Internet.

Rgds and Good Luck
Sheba
abdelfattah

2002-09-22, 7:01 am

hi
I will be very aprepriate if you can send me oracle 9i upgrade materails and exam

my e-mail
abdelfattah_99@yahoo.com
gorumr

2002-09-27, 1:49 pm

Can u please send me the materials to my mail id

mahen_rao@rediffmail.com

I'll be higly grateful to you.

Rgds
Mahendra
vcr

2002-09-28, 6:22 am

I will send the stuff in a day or two. Reshare with others. Dont try to profit friends.
Rgds,
VCR

Margus, Share what you have with others and see the joy from within. I dont believe in milking money out of knowledge and study materials.
parisra

2002-09-29, 2:35 pm

If you have ILT for 031 and 032, could you please send me to parisra10@yahoo.com
thank You
scott77.tw

2002-09-29, 9:33 pm


Sorry to bother you,can you send me
a copy also.
my email is
scott_77.tw@yahoo.com.tw

regards

Scott
JAISONTV

2002-09-30, 11:14 pm

Hi VCR

I have cleared 007.
Can you please send me ILT for remaining ?

Thanks in advance
Jaison
JAISONTV

2002-09-30, 11:15 pm

Hi VCR

I have cleared 007.
Can you please send me ILT for remaining ?

Thanks in advance
Jaison
tvjaison@yahoo.com
dguru

2002-10-02, 8:54 am

Great to know that you have completed 9i OCA.
I am preparing for the first exam. Please send me the study guide and all that you had for preparing the OCA.

Thanks in advance.
My mail-address is alanleung1@rogers.com
khataukar

2002-10-03, 5:46 am

Hello VCR,

I have started preparing for Oracle8i: Backup & Recovery exam ( 1Z0-025 ). If you have any material that will help me in preparing and passing this exam, request you to please send it to me.

My email id is

dinesha_khataukar@yahoo
.com


Thank You,
Dinesh.
Anas

2002-10-03, 8:29 am

Hello VCR,
would be grateful if you send me ILT for 1Z0-023.

a_OCP@rambler.ru

Many thanks,
Anas
dguru

2002-10-04, 8:57 am

Hi vcr,

Can you send me your manual (ILT, Sybex, etc)?
My email address is: alanleung1@rogers.com

Thanks
Margus

2002-10-04, 1:58 pm

Just wondering how many of You who asked for those ILTs from vcr really received those?
I think I didnt...
vcr

2002-10-05, 6:46 am

All you gotta do forward the mails I sent yu.
Especially those people who have not posted their mail ID's can get it from any of the others.

Best Rgds
VCR
goofboy2002

2002-10-05, 5:34 pm

Vcr,

can you please email me the ILT materials to

dr_nhl@yahoo.com

Thanks.
dguru

2002-10-06, 9:30 pm

Hi VCR,

Could you send me your manuals ?? I need Oracle 9i OCA 1Z0-001 exam study notes (ILT, TestKing, STS, etc)

Thanks in advance.
dguru

2002-10-06, 9:32 pm

Forgot to post my email address:
alanleung1@rogers.com

Thanks again
tmpanicker

2002-10-14, 2:33 am

Hi vcr,

I guess I am a little late, but I found your thread only recently.I did be really obliged if you can send me the ILT for Oracle 9i.

My email Id : ronhawk@indiatimes.com

Thanks in advance,

tmp.
vcr

2002-10-14, 6:49 am

reshare with other requestors.
VCR
zuilt

2002-10-14, 10:56 am

hi VCR!

i'm preparing myself for my oracle 9i exams too. could you kindly send me whatever materials to my email address?

zuilt@yahoo.com

thanks a million! really hope the world's fill with kind and generous people like you!

zuilt
prasanth_kochi

2002-10-15, 2:26 am

Hi All,

Anyone who received ILT and other materials for OCP 9i tractk, please pass it to me.

rgds,

prasanth
PABLOROMAN

2002-10-15, 8:10 am

Hi All,

Anyone who received ILT and other materials for OCP 9i tractk, please pass it to me.

my mail is pcanna@hotmail.com
rgds,

Pablo
jyotsna

2002-10-15, 11:23 pm

Hi VCR
Could u please send me the ILT?
My mail address is jyotsnam_2000@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance.
dguru

2002-10-18, 4:16 pm

Hello vcr,

I am preparing for the first OCA exam.(Exam code - 1Z0-001 - Introduction to Oracle 9i) Please send me the study guide and all that you had for preparing the OCA.

What is the difficulty level difference between 1Z0-001 and 1Z0-007?

I know 1Z0-001 exam is an "Internet" exam means you can do the exam on the Internet. But the second one 1Z0-007, I have to do it in the Exam Institute right.

My email address is: alanleung1@rogers.com

Thanks in advance.
dguru

2002-10-18, 4:17 pm

hi vcr,

I need both the ILT and STS for the 1Z0-001 exam.

Thanks again
Margus

2002-10-18, 4:30 pm

can't you read or don't you know website www.oracle.com/education/certification ?
Most of the things You need to know about certifications r there,

If youd have been there youd know that
1z0-007 is Introduction to Oracle 9i sql and
1z0-001 is Oracle8i SQL / PL SQL

1z0-001 is more difficult because You have to know relatively more (PL/SQL) than 007, but in 007 there's more Qs about 9i (new) features.

1z0-001 can be taken only in testing centre
1z0-007 can be taken online

dguru, heres my advice:
Why dont You figure out what oracle is b4 taking exam, migth be helpful


quote:
Originally posted by dguru
Hello vcr,

I am preparing for the first OCA exam.(Exam code - 1Z0-001 - Introduction to Oracle 9i) Please send me the study guide and all that you had for preparing the OCA.

What is the difficulty level difference between 1Z0-001 and 1Z0-007?

I know 1Z0-001 exam is an "Internet" exam means you can do the exam on the Internet. But the second one 1Z0-007, I have to do it in the Exam Institute right.

My email address is: alanleung1@rogers.com

Thanks in advance.

Samb

2002-10-18, 6:40 pm

Hi Vcr

Can u please sedn me the 1z0-131 ILT.That would be thankful.and if anyone is having 131 testking can u please forward it to me.I have 132 sts which I exchange

Sam
Samb

2002-10-18, 6:42 pm

I forgot to post my email address sijiamb@hotmail.com.I can exchage 132 sts for any material on 131 especially testking

Thanks
Samb
vcr

2002-10-19, 3:29 am

Possibly we could meet.
Regards
VCR
Margus

2002-10-19, 2:32 pm

OK, sure
So when will u be here?
quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Possibly we could meet.
Regards
VCR

vcr

2002-10-19, 8:54 pm

Once I get the Project Schedule.
Regards
VCR
prasanth_kochi

2002-10-23, 4:13 am

Hi VCR,

Days are nearing for my OCA 9i first paper but i havent received the ILT or STS yet.
Pleae sent me or pls give the id of the person to whom you have given a copy.

Thanks ,

prasanthkp
vcr

2002-10-23, 8:03 pm

I Will re-send today. But above I have posted sent and please re-share.All people who requested before this post have gotten the stuff. So you could mail anyof them.Best of Luck for your exam.
Rgds
VCR
deepak1538

2002-10-24, 9:49 am

quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR



Hi there,

I am very much in the dark about OCP. I have done my MCPs and A+ and presently I was to explore Oracle. Can you please help me out. I need sample questions, types of exams out there etc.

Thanks, Deep
my email id is deepak1538@yahoo.com
dorapluto

2002-10-24, 10:25 pm

hi VCR,

i'm going to have my oracle 9i exams. Could you kindly send me whatever materials to my email address?

doraleung@sianman.com

Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!

Best Regards,
dorapluto
vasko

2002-10-25, 3:01 am

Hi Vcr,

Can you please mail me materials for OCA(1Z0-007), OCP etc.

My mail is vasil_dimov@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance.


p.s.If someone else has this materials pls. send them to me!
sudhasri1970

2002-10-25, 5:11 am

Hi
Please can you send me a copy of the OCP testimonials, PDF etc.

Thanks in advance
S.Srikanthan
sudhasri1970

2002-10-25, 5:13 am

Hi
Can u please send the me the copy of OCP Testimonials & PDF files.

My eMail id is sudhasrikanthan@paragon
solutions.com


Thanks in advance
S.Srikanthan
hope123

2002-10-26, 2:20 am

Hi VCR,

Could you please send ILT's (and STS's if possible) for Oracle9i OCA (exams: 1Z0-007 and 1Z0-031).

I would really appreciate your help. My email id is: hope3009in@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Hope
mothi

2002-10-26, 12:23 pm

Hi vcr

can you provide me the study material for 9i sql 1z0 - 007 to my email id ams_ram@hotmail.com

tanx


quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

Sandi

2002-10-26, 1:32 pm

Me too please.. VCR
san_awaghade@rediffmail
.com
mmetsch

2002-10-27, 8:49 pm

I am currently going through the Exam Guide for 1Z0-007. Do you have any other recommendations of how to study for the exam?

Could you please send me any practice exam material for 1Z0-007.

Thanks in advance
Margus

2002-10-27, 11:42 pm

quote:
Originally posted by mmetsch
I am currently going through the Exam Guide for 1Z0-007. Do you have any other recommendations of how to study for the exam?


ILT + practice, STS, testking
(and reading a book by Osborne or Sybex) is 4 most people more than enough
markpace

2002-10-29, 7:04 am

Any help would be more than appreciated.

markpace@inwind.it

Thanks a lot, Mark
dguru

2002-10-29, 8:14 am

Hi,

I am currently going through the Exam Guide for 1Z0-007. Do you have any ILT, or STS would be appreciated.

My email address is: alanleung1@rogers.com
prasanth_kochi

2002-10-30, 5:09 am

Hi Everybody,

Can anyone send the ILt's and STS that VCR gave.your help will be highly appreciated.
prasanthkp@eudoramail.com

rgds,

prasanthkp
get2sud

2002-11-01, 1:05 pm

i am planning to give the oracle application developer exam .i would be very thankful, if any one can please help me anything (Sybex, ILTs, STS, testking etc), you have on the following.
- Introduction to Oracle SQL & PLSQL(#1z0-001)
- Develop PL/SQL Program Units(#1z0-101)
- Build Internet application I(#1z0-131)
- Build Internet application II(#1z0-132)
i did really appreciate it.
thanks a lot in advance.
i would appreciate your earliest reply.
sud
mp_lko

2002-11-02, 5:51 am

Hi Vcr
Please could u send me the ILT of 032 and if possible STS 033.
I have the ILT'sof 031 and 33
and STS for
001, 101, 131, 132, 031 and 032.
Thanks
272611

2002-11-03, 2:27 pm

quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR




Hi VCR,

Can you send me the ILT. My email is luisjrlouiejo@aol.com. Thanks.
satishind

2002-11-04, 1:06 am

Can I have a copy

satishind@email.com

Thanks and Regards
Satish
mp_lko

2002-11-04, 7:57 am

Hi vcr
My email Id is mp_accounts@yahoo.com Please sned me the ILTs of 032 ans if possible STS of 033.
Thanks
mag1kus

2002-11-04, 8:57 pm

Hi could you send me the ILT's too? Thanks!!

cheers,
mag1kus

mag1kus@yahoo.com
yee68

2002-11-04, 9:41 pm

Hi,

Could you please send me ILT 1Z-031 AND 1Z-032 if you have.

Thanks

Yee
yee68

2002-11-04, 9:50 pm

Could you please send me 9I ILT to yee68@yahoo.com
skidsky

2002-11-04, 11:58 pm

Hi all,

Please send me also the ILTs. My email add is skid_sky@yahoo.com

Thank you.
Skid
markpace

2002-11-05, 1:51 am

Hello there,

any material about OCA/OCP would be more than appreciated

markpace@inwind.it

Thanks a lot, Mark
rasikasw

2002-11-05, 5:56 am

Hi VCR,
I am studing for OCA 9i DBA path,
IF you can mail me some some ILTs realating to this I will be very thanking to You.
My mail Address is rasika-w@lycos.com

thanks
Rasikasw
jcrespin

2002-11-05, 12:55 pm

I am getting ready to go throught the 8i OCP certification path. There is a job that is looking for 8i DBA... Anyway, will take Exam 1Z0-001 within the next week.

Any information would be greatly appreciated!

jcrespin2002@hotmail.com
Margus

2002-11-05, 12:57 pm

quote:
Originally posted by jcrespin
I am getting ready to go throught the 8i OCP certification path. There is a job that is looking for 8i DBA... Anyway, will take Exam 1Z0-001 within the next week.

Any information would be greatly appreciated!

jcrespin2002@hotmail.com



Why dont u make life for yourself easier -->
take 9i dba exams.

9i after all is better and newer version of 8i. Of course get some 8i references also but take 9idba exams --> less exams more certs
jcrespin

2002-11-05, 1:03 pm

Agreed (9i tests also). Thanks for the advice.

The company I am applying with has a position for an 8i DBA and I wanted to show them that I have the knowledge, but I wanted to make sure that I do. If you know what I mean.

I sent you an email from another post so you will see my email address as jcrespin2002@hotmail.com

Thanks again for your response and help.
Onka

2002-11-05, 3:38 pm

Hi vcr,


Could you plz send me ILT for 1Z0-132 -'Build Internet Application Developer II', or if you have any other stuff for this exam I'll really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
my email: elena_zelitchenko@yahoo
.com
Onka

2002-11-05, 3:42 pm

for vcr

Upps, i didnt' mention that it's Oracle Developer 6i exam
vuyomakasi

2002-11-07, 6:40 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Margus
[B]Hey vcr,

VCR please help me out with some ocp dba 9i guides.
vuyomakasi

2002-11-07, 6:43 am

quote:
Originally posted by vuyomakasi
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Margus
[B]Hey vcr,

VCR please help me out with some ocp dba 9i guides.



I forgot, my e-mail is vuyo.makasi@jhb.softwarefutures.com[URL=mailto="vuyo.makasi@jhb.softwarefutures.com"]vuyo.makasi@jhb.softwarefutures.com[/URL]
yee68

2002-11-07, 7:03 pm

Could you please send me 9I 1Z-031 and 1Z-032 ILT to
yee68@yahoo.com
kand

2002-11-08, 11:35 am

Hi vcr,

Can you share 9i materials. My email address is mkandalai@yahoo.com

Thanks.
illinilax

2002-11-08, 10:22 pm

looking for 9i upgrade ilt
can you help please
mikelax22@hotmail.com
PC888

2002-11-10, 12:28 am

Hi.
You are a really really nice, kind person. I hope it's not too much trouble for you, I need the study materials that you said you would share. If you could share, please mail it to kpwill888@yahoo.com. Thanks very very much.
versa_123

2002-11-12, 11:15 pm

Hi VCR,

Can You please send me MOUS, & Oracle 9i

i am giving exam after 1 week.

My email address is versa_123@yahoo.com & versa_123@hotmail.com

bye,

Dinesh

quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

subhadip_ds

2002-11-12, 11:47 pm

Please send those material/link for download at sdsarma@essar.com,
subhadip_ds@abapers.com.

Thanks with warm regards,

Subhadip
cltek

2002-11-13, 9:41 am

Hey VCR,
Please send me the information for all oracle 8i exams, I am currently studying for the second part and any extra information would be definetly useful. My e-mail address is pponton@eyebottomline.com
Thanks in advance and God Bless

cltek


quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

Teffany

2002-11-14, 9:30 am

Could you please send me the ILT for 8i? I would greatly appreciate it. My address is tmh0843@hotmail.com
Teffany

2002-11-14, 9:49 am

VCR,

Can you send it to tmh0843@hotmail.com?

thanks
hantuwang

2002-11-15, 8:59 pm

Hi everyone,
I need practice questions for my ocp 9i.
Can anyone share their questions (STS or
any other testing software, especially
STS questions). I need:

1Z0-031 dba I
1Z0-032 dba II
1Z0-033 tuning

thanks a million!

email me at

hantu_wang@yahoo.com
rathi

2002-11-18, 8:50 am

Hi VCR,
If you have ILT for 131 and 132(Internet application 1 and 2)for developer exam please do email me my email address is arathimr@yahoo.com.
thanks
mp_lko

2002-11-18, 8:36 pm

Hi vcr
I need ILTs of 131 and 132. Please email them to me at mp_accounts@yahoo.com. I really appreciate the help.
Thanks
Margus

2002-11-18, 10:41 pm

Anybody who is interested in getting(trading) materials send me an private message or email (mlehiste@yahoo.com)

I have a bunch of materials for Oracle Developer, DBA (9i, upgrade, 8i) and MCSD, Net+, A+, Linux, Sun Solaris etc.
bonnie12

2002-11-19, 10:15 am

Hi,vcr
I am going to take the ORACLE 8i path. Do u have the stuff for it?. Thx a lot for ur help.
Here is my email:
showhelp2002@yahoo.com
tickler_foryou

2002-11-19, 11:52 am

Hi....

Can you share your OCP the ILT manuals,my email_id :

balckbear_chennai@yahoo
.com


Thanks....

Claoker.A




quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

faidoudi

2002-11-20, 9:01 am

hi vcr!

I am looking for ILT and STS for 101, 131 and 132, I have ILT and STS for 001.

thanks!
faidoudi

2002-11-20, 9:02 am

my email is : faidoudi@sympatico.ca
whargo

2002-11-21, 5:11 am

Hi..^^

I will be very very aprepriate
if you can send me Test king materails(oracle8!) 023 ~ 026 .

Send me please

---> hutgos@empal.com

From Miki hutgos. ^^
susanandbrad

2002-11-21, 6:24 am

What are ILT manuals, I am studying for 8i Admin and Architecture, any suggestions on
how to get all that stuff in your head ?

I would appreciate any help you may be able
to offer.

Thanks,
ashiq1970

2002-11-23, 6:20 am

Vcr,

can you please email me the ILT materials to

ashiq1970@indiatimes.com

Thanks.








quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

incubusm

2002-11-24, 2:34 am

hi vcr,

could you pls forward me the OCA ILTs, my emailid: waste_mailus@yahoo.com

cheers,
irismoxy

2002-11-24, 3:20 am

Hi,

Can you provide me ILT and STS or any good materials for preparing for 9i OCA to my email id irismoxy@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot,

Iris
joz

2002-11-24, 1:32 pm

Vcr,

could you please email me the materials
I'm study for 9i track
I did SQL exam now next 031 and 032
I would be greatfull
Joz
jozef@clear.net.nz
rathi

2002-11-24, 5:11 pm

Hi VCR,
It seems you are not mailing any ILT. Please respond to our posts. If you have ILT for Internet application 1 & 2 131 &132 please email at arathimr@yahoo.com

Thanks
nickym66

2002-11-24, 11:30 pm

Hi VCR,
Can you please send me some study materials for 1z0 101 PL/SQL Program units . Thank you from NZ
Cheers
cmustatea@hotmail.com
Deja-vue

2002-11-24, 11:46 pm

Hey, to all that have responded to vcr's post, you can download the material for free right here:

http://www.slapped.de/funx/idiot.swf

Margus

2002-11-24, 11:50 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Deja-vue
Hey, to all that have responded to vcr's post, you can download the material for free right here:

http://www.slapped.de/funx/idiot.swf




What that suppose to mean?
Some kind of joke?
(If it is, then not very good one...)
rasikasw

2002-11-25, 5:03 am

Hi Deja-vue

don't do the jokes like that. Because we all are students who study for oracle certification. So take it seriously
rasikasw
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 6:59 am

quote:
So take it seriously


More people might be prepared to take OCP seriously, if this forum's members weren't so desperate to get brain dumps/ILT and pass the exams with the minimum amount of effort/knowledge. Let's not even talk about experience.

For those of you who are experienced and view the OCP as a verification of you current knowledge, I appologise.

Good on ya Deja_vue, if they can't work out a spoof URL they ain't got much chance as a DBA.

Cheers
Margus

2002-11-25, 9:52 am

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs
More people might be prepared to take OCP seriously, if this forum's members weren't so desperate to get brain dumps/ILT and pass the exams with the minimum amount of effort/knowledge. Let's not even talk about experience.

You are calling ILT minimum amount of knowledge? I thought that was the best thing to study and practice Oracle, I didnt know that it ONLY gives You a "minimum amount" of knowledge.


quote:

For those of you who are experienced and view the OCP as a verification of you current knowledge, I appologise.


You appologise for what - for that that if You havent gotten a job in Oracle Database You shouldnt get certified?

quote:

Good on ya Deja_vue, if they can't work out a spoof URL they ain't got much chance as a DBA.

Cheers


Im gonna say it - You are a stupid *ssh*l* - You will going to know that its a spoof url and I dont see any connection between knowing who is the dirty liar in the internet and DBA job.

Well I hope You guys (nick-hobbs and deja-vue) are happy for Your supreme obnoxiousness towards people who are in the beginning of the way to become IT professionals
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 12:09 pm

I wouldn't normally bother to respond to this type of post, but it seems my comments need clarification for the hard of understanding.

quote:
who u think u r


I am a DBA with several years experience in two of the main RDBMS products.

quote:
I thought that was the best thing to study and practice Oracle


No, the best way to practice Oracle is by actually working with it by testing production scenarios on a test enviroment. The ILT courses mapped to the OCP tracks do not (IMO) give an in-depth knowledge of the product. This is not to say there are not more advanced ILT courses which do give that depth.

quote:
You appologise for what for that that (sic)if You havent gotten a job in Oracle Database You shouldnt get certified?



I appologise to those who do not see the theft of copyright material (ILT) as being necessary to certify their skills.

Further to that, it is a truism that certification without experience has no value except from a purely academic point of view.

quote:
Im gonna say it - You are a stupid *ssh*l*


Go ahead, say it if it makes you feel better. Don't worry about what it makes you look like.

quote:
who are in the beginning of the way to become IT professionals


Bottom line, using brain dumps/ILT copies as a method to pass exams doesn't seem very professional.
incubusm

2002-11-25, 12:27 pm

------------PEACE------------------------

BOTTOM LINE

does anyone have ILTs for 031 to trade or share ?
Margus

2002-11-25, 12:30 pm

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs
I am a DBA with several years experience in two of the main RDBMS products.

Further to that, it is a truism that certification without experience has no value except from a purely academic point of view.

Bottom line, using brain dumps/ILT copies as a method to pass exams doesn't seem very professional.



So what kind of professional method do You suggest? I wonder how easy it would be to find DBA job without the Certification and experience <to get this experience to pass those idious exams>

quote:
No, the best way to practice Oracle is by actually working with it by testing production scenarios on a test enviroment.

OK, I understand that the best way to learn Oracle is to have a job as an Oracle DBA but we are going merry-go-round here. There's no way you will find a Oracle DBA job without the experience and Certification...
Deja-vue

2002-11-25, 12:38 pm

Well said, nick_hobbs
I am with you!
incubusm

2002-11-25, 12:52 pm

margus, this is what i wanna ask nick_hobbs, but rightnow i am busy with my ILT search

if wat he says was right then about 2,00,000 people who are certified and about 5000(approx)who are trying to get certification are wasting( some already wasted) their time, money and effort to pass the exams

and i am eagerly waiting to know a trick which nick_hobbs used to get a DBA Job without certification and exper...

hell --ILT's NICK_HOBBS, Deja-vue cud u ppl please post ur tricks, tips or ur way to get a DBA job without certi or exp..

HAIL NICK_HOBBS...
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 12:53 pm

As someone who has spent the last month interviewing for a DBA, I can tell you experience counts first time every time.

It is market specific, but here, OCP is usually a "nice to have" unless the candidate is applying to Oracle.

The only time OCP becomes important is for those individuals who have 18 months or more experience. Then certification demonstrates commitment to learning (not necessarily Oracle) and quoting my boss (also previously a DBA) "at least they know what they don't know".

A common route to DBA is to take a developer role and demonstrate your knowledge of the product.

OCP alone is simply a piece of paper that has a very limited degree of respect in the industry. The certification will be downgraded even further if ILT and braindumps continue to be pirated and individuals continue to attempt to answer test questions "parrot fashion"

Still think I'm "stupid *ssh*l*"??? (much as it made me smile).
Margus

2002-11-25, 12:58 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Deja-vue
Well said, nick_hobbs
I am with you!



Good, If only You had an idea what is it like to prepare for Oracle exams...

Or to put this way - if only You had experience in Oracle so that somebody could take You seriously instead of ....
Margus

2002-11-25, 1:05 pm

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs

A common route to DBA is to take a developer role and demonstrate your knowledge of the product.

OCP alone is simply a piece of paper that has a very limited degree of respect in the industry. The certification will be downgraded even further if ILT and braindumps continue to be pirated and individuals continue to attempt to answer test questions "parrot fashion"

Still think I'm "stupid *ssh*l*"??? (much as it made me smile).



No You are not stupid, but we'll see about this 2nd part

Yaa, but You see - (at least nobody I know) uses braindumps in "parrot fashion" - remember the asnwers and thats it...
Usually You take an Oracle course, read books couple of times, will do the practice exams and then You will take a look at some other exam-prep materials...
Besides its up to exam-makers to put their lazy-asses to work for making good exams - afterall You pay them very good money just to take 1 exam - (100-200$). And besides I havent really seen any braindumps for Oracle exams (other than 001 and 007), all I have seen are the real-exam questions - (I think legally selling for 20-60$)

My opinion is that exams are not downgraded because people use braindumps but because exam-makers who will get tons of money for it dont bother improving exam-questions and exam-prep materials (there r few exceptions of course)
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 1:08 pm

Sorry INCUBUSM busy posting my response.

quote:
and i am eagerly waiting to know a trick which nick_hobbs used to get a DBA Job without certification and exper...


Tips and tricks, frankly seems more like luck to me.

Personally, I was originally a tester. I took an interest in the database and used what little knowledge I gained to get moved to a developer role. I spent a fair proportion of my time with the DBA and, as a result of knowledge gained from him, became an application DBA. More recently I was providing consultancy on a site who lost their Oracle DBA. I offered to take over and here we are.

Point is I was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and that I could demonstrate an interest and degree of ability appropriate for the job they had in mind. Put simply I would be amazed at anyone who could get a fully fledged DBA job without experience. It is not a trainee level simple as that.

quote:
HAIL NICK_HOBBS...


You're too kind.
Margus

2002-11-25, 1:13 pm

quote:
Originally posted by incubusm


hell --ILT's NICK_HOBBS, Deja-vue cud u ppl please post ur tricks, tips or ur way to get a DBA job without certi or exp..

HAIL NICK_HOBBS...



jaa, There is no way we ever get a job as a DBA then - unless uncle SAM will give it to us - Study as much as You want or get a certification or not but the bottom-line is start going to church - Maybe praying to god will help You to get experience and a job as a dba....
incubusm

2002-11-25, 1:14 pm

thanks for ur immd reply nick_hobbs,

I accept that OCP is for a exp. DBA's.

but a quick question for u,

think that a Web Developer(WITH Certification) and a Program Analyst(WITHOUT a Certification) with equal Database Knowledge have applied for Junior DBA or Associate DBA or a entry level DBA.

which one do u prefer and why?

this is competitive world and every1 tries to secure his position ...
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 1:26 pm

Margus

Seems the tone is getting more adult now

The general issue with braindumps is that they focus too tightly on the exam questions. Ofcourse that's aside from taken any last vestage assesment capability for the result.

The OCP curriculum is broad enough to at least give an introduction to most areas of the application. A braindump by definition is not.

ILT's are copyright as are "real exam" questions also covered by a non-disclosure agreement. Unless the above was referring to STS in which case I have heard they contain questions which appear on the real exams.

Quality of the exams is another question entirely and too big for this thread.

My original post stands firm. There is no easy way to become a DBA. Certification won't do it on it's own. Anyone who is trying to go about it in an illegal or underhand manner (downloading copyright material) deserves to have the mickey taken.

BTW I'm still smiling
Margus

2002-11-25, 1:36 pm

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs
Margus

Seems the tone is getting more adult now

My original post stands firm. There is no easy way to become a DBA.



"Real-exam questions" were referring to Testking, itpass, Passgurantee, real-exams, acutal-exams, cheatcheets etc.

STS contains only very little percentage of questions which You will see in the exam though its very useful to understand what are the exam-questions based on (and thats ILT).

As far as Im concerned Ill try to study first(get certifications) and then find a good job. Im not sure if it would work out other way around
incubusm

2002-11-25, 1:42 pm

gotto learn more from u all..

anyway i will follow margus in this matter.
get certified and search for a job.

nyway i am still a student and getting to ready to graduate next semester so.....
nick_hobbs

2002-11-25, 1:54 pm

incubusm

No worries, happy to reply.

The point you raise is an interesting one.

Personally I would not base a preference on a job title. In my experience, the content of a role can vary whilst the title remains the same.

It would also depend on the site I was recruiting for but I can asure you, OCP would be pretty low down on the list.

One of my clients runs a 5*12 OLTP database of about 2GB. A bit of web experience would be useful but primary focus would be the knowledge to support the existing database and PL/SQL. We've put a highly experienced developer in there and he's doing very well.

If anyone can find a trainee DBA position then good luck to them. For the rest of us mere mortals, I suggest you use whatever experience you have to get a foot in the door of an Oracle site. Once in, start demonstrating/improving your knowledge.

You folks are all crying about OCP not getting you a job which it won't. What OCP WILL do is give a good curriculum to learn with. Combine that with some experience (perhaps in a different discpline) and ofcourse the previously mentioned luck and you may well do OK.

Like I said to Margus, I stand by my original post.
bpsanthi

2002-11-26, 9:07 pm

Hi VCR,

can you give me some guidence in preparing for ocp?Can you aso send me the oracle 9i ILTs ?
Thank you .
Santhi.
Margus

2002-11-26, 9:42 pm

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs
incubusm

No worries, happy to reply.


Like I said to Margus, I stand by my original post.



You stand by your original post - meaning WHAT?
That You still think its a mighty-good idea to give insulting spoof urls to students who are in the beginning of their studies?

Or was that You think that there is no real value getting Oracle Certified?

Or was it that You think that all people are desperate to get braindumps because thats the only thing they study for exams?

Thats what i read from your original post...

BTW, I passed today 1z0-131 exam, 1 more exam to go for OCP Application Developer
domi

2002-11-27, 3:44 am

Hey guys, im sorry to butt in here. I really need your help, I'll be taking up an Oracle Certification. Can you please send me some real questions or review materials that i can study on? I would really appreciate your concern. My email add is domi_santiago@yahoo.com. Thank you in advance...
Domy
bpsanthi

2002-11-27, 6:48 am

Hai,
I am preparing for OCA.Can you help me by sending the 9i ILTs and also some advice on how to prepare.
If yes, my mail-ID is bpsanthi@yahoo.com.
Thanks.
Santhi.
nick_hobbs

2002-11-27, 7:54 am

Margus,

Get over it.

You're clearly one of those individuals who won't listen to an opinion if it differs from that which you hold.

Sometimes the truth is unpleasant. Live with it.

You carry on trading copyright material, attempting to get "real" exam questions and get yourself a nice piece of paper you can show your grandkids.

If you get a job, great I'm really pleased for you but I'm not losing sleep over it.

I'm really not prepared to waste any more time on this thread.

When you are capable of entering into an intelligent debate on gaining employment in this field post something coherent.
Margus

2002-11-27, 12:19 pm

quote:
Originally posted by nick_hobbs
Margus,

Get over it.

I'm really not prepared to waste any more time on this thread.




If you say so,
But I also stand to my first opinion

And you are rigth - nobody should trade copyrighted material; You should be able to pay for your education thousands of dollars..
swordfish_70

2002-11-29, 3:03 am

Hi vcr,

Can you share the materials of 9i ILT..My email address is Quicksnap_70@yahoo.com

Thanks..
bhasi

2002-11-29, 4:53 am

Do any body do really have got the ILT form VCR
Margus

2002-11-29, 10:48 am

quote:
Originally posted by bhasi
Do any body do really have got the ILT form VCR


Do You really think vcr has time to send studyguides to all those hundreds of people?


He is a good guy and has helped couple of people, <I presume>
incubusm

2002-11-29, 12:32 pm

Margus, haven't u leave this forum? thought u wud have gone to take oracle course for getting ILT's

I think u will have nothin to do here if u decide not to share ur material or any "COPYRIGHTED INFO" ..
incubusm

2002-11-29, 12:35 pm

oops sorry Margus i just realised that u mentioned only sharing ur materials with others but not vice versa..

I understand now why u are still here ..
Jimmy Chen

2002-12-02, 1:28 am

Hi Vcr,
Can you kindly share the materials of 9i ITL.
My email address is jimmy.chen@ert.ericsson.se
B&R
Jimmy
toni3876

2002-12-02, 3:10 am

Hi,

can you mail me the 1Z0-030 ILT (9i New Features)?

abc@ati.es

Thanks a lot,

Toni
toni3876

2002-12-02, 4:14 am

Hi everybody,

Anyone who received ILT and other materials for OCP 9i track (only 1Z0-030 "New Features 9i"), please pass it to me.

my mail is abc@ati.es
Greetings,

Toni
incubusm

2002-12-02, 8:18 am

hi toni,

i have those ILT's contact me at waste_mailus@yahoo.com


thanks
hoixuan

2002-12-02, 9:01 am

Hi VCR!
Please share: hoixuan@lycos.de

Thanks

Hoixuan
Don0489

2002-12-02, 3:03 pm

Hi,

I just wrote the 1Z0-101 program units Oracle exam.

I was wondering whether you have the ILT materials and/or STS software for 1Z0-131 or 1Z0-132?

Thanks
DOn
dkoomoys@hotmail.com


quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

domi

2002-12-02, 9:29 pm

Hi VCR,

Can you please send me those stuff/materials? I've been searching for materials these past weeks and unfortunately until now I'm still searching. Hoping for your kindness.... my email id is domi_santiago@yahoo.com

domy

Anyone who already received the materials?
Please share....

I will send the stuff in a day or two. Reshare with others. Dont try to profit friends.
Rgds,
VCR

Margus, Share what you have with others and see the joy from within. I dont believe in milking money out of knowledge and study materials.
Margus

2002-12-02, 11:23 pm

quote:
Originally posted by domi

Margus, Share what you have with others and see the joy from within. I dont believe in milking money out of knowledge and study materials.



Well, I just had to reply to this...
1) Do You have any idea how long it would take to send materials to hundreds of people who all will ask for it?? Thats y vcr (i think) havent been able to do that

2) I dont believe that I have milked money out of knowledge and study materials. I believe Ive also helped more than one people

Besides by my opinion the real milking is done by examvendors etc. - by paying to take an exam 150-200$ - and then have to remember them that u have taken exam couple of months ago and want to get this "highly" valuable certificate ...
cosmo

2002-12-02, 11:44 pm

Hi VCR,

I am currently studying OCP. Would you please send me the ILT to cosmo8008@yahoo.com
.
Thanks in advance,

cosmo




quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR

cosmo

2002-12-03, 12:00 am

Hi Incubusm,

Would you please send me the ITL's too at cosmo8008@yahoo.com.
Thanks in advance.

comso
saingor

2002-12-03, 10:21 am

Hi, VCR,

If you have 1z0-131 and 1z0-132 materials, could you please send it to saingor@yahoo.com? Thank you for your time and help.

saingor
jtnadams

2002-12-05, 7:22 am

Hello VCR

I would like a copy as well. Thanks in advance for the information
boindde

2002-12-05, 3:34 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vcr
VCR,

Could you please send me the material.

my email id deva_p@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance,
Rob (Miami)

2002-12-05, 5:03 pm

Could you please send me the material too.
Thank You.
racosta@sbscorporate.com

Thanks Again

Rob
devlad

2002-12-06, 1:59 pm

Could you please send me the material too.

My e-mail is devladu@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance.
Ejgowan

2002-12-07, 12:14 am

quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR





Please send the ILT to egowan@wi.rr.com. Thanks
breenm

2002-12-08, 2:47 pm

Hi VCR

Thank you for your generous of offer of help

would you please send me a copy of your 9i materials to

markteresa@sympatico.ca

____________

(FYI I too share my resources with others)

thank you
Ashishoracle

2002-12-09, 1:34 am

Hi VCR,

Can u send me material on
Ashish.dudgikar@geind.ge.com

Thanks a lot in advance,
Ashish
tanilkumar

2002-12-09, 2:12 am

Hi VCR,

Nice to know that you have completed 9i OCA.
I am preparing for the same.Please give me the books/material/tests and all that you had for preparing the OCA.Thanks in advance.

My mail-id is takumar1701@yahoo.com

waiting for your reply

thanks in Advance,
Kumar
maithily

2002-12-09, 2:39 am

Hi Vcr,
Can you please send me the ILT's for 8i-Architecture and Admin Exam ?
my mail id is maithily_erande@yahoo.com

Cheers !
Maithily
rosemary

2002-12-09, 1:45 pm

Hi VCR,

Could you send a copy of the ITL of Oracle 9i to me? Email: ademxu@yahoo.com. I realy appreciate your help!

Happy Holiday!!!

Rosemary
nairs

2002-12-10, 9:59 pm

Could you please send me the ILT for OCP 8i?
Thank you so much.
nairs

2002-12-10, 10:03 pm

Could you please send me the ILT for OCP 8i?
Thank you so much.
My email is n_kumar7@yahoo.com
jokach

2002-12-11, 11:14 am

Can you send me anything 9i OCP?

My email is jokach@epix.net

Thanks!
mrazihassan

2002-12-11, 3:18 pm

Hi,

could u please send me ILT manual for 8i.

mrazihassan@yahoo.com

thanks
oradouglas

2002-12-12, 9:20 pm

Hi VCR,

Glad to know that you have completed 9i OCA.
I am preparing for the 9i OCP and OCA.Please give me the books/material/tests and all that you had for preparing those exams.Thanks a lot.

Dou.
oradouglas

2002-12-12, 9:21 pm

Forget to tell you my e-mail. Mine is rye_dou@sinatown.com thanks
Deja-vue

2002-12-12, 9:26 pm

It is really pathetic, how you Guys keep begging for free, illegal Stuff! You are behaving like little children! Disgusting!
no-one will send you anything, okay?
I really am getting tired of this and will ask the Webmaster, to shut this Thread down!
bhasi

2002-12-12, 9:40 pm

quote:
Originally posted by oradouglas
Forget to tell you my e-mail. Mine is rye_dou@sinatown.com thanks



You are right Deja-Vue Ask the webmaster to close this thread.
Margus

2002-12-12, 10:04 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Deja-vue
It is really pathetic, how you Guys keep begging for free, illegal Stuff! You are behaving like little children! Disgusting!
no-one will send you anything, okay?
I really am getting tired of this and will ask the Webmaster, to shut this Thread down!



Well You are absolutely rigth!
Unfortunately there are hundreds of people who can afford (or dont want to pay for) original materials...

And in a way I was responsible for this thread because I was the one who started arguing with vcr and he finally said that instead of braindumps, do not cheat and study from ILTs.

But yes this thread should be shutdown for many reasons (including illegal material begging and people who hope to receive studymaterials <even legitimate> will probably not get it from this thread)
NISHICHI

2002-12-12, 11:10 pm

MY EMAIL : THETEST100@YAHOO.COM . CAN YOU SEND ME MCSA & CCNP 640-605 MATERIALS . THANKS A LOT
bhasi

2002-12-12, 11:12 pm

WHY CANT WE CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ !!!!!
Deja-vue

2002-12-13, 12:27 am

HEY, NISHICHI


http://www.blue-screenofdeath.com/attaqsrg.jpg
edin

2002-12-13, 10:00 am

Hi VCR.

could you please email me the materials
I'm study for 9i track
edke8009@hotmail.com
rbommar

2002-12-13, 10:14 am

Could you please email the pdf files to idl4now@yahoo.com.
tia
Ravi, Detroit, MI
dorapluto

2002-12-14, 11:34 am

hi VCR,

i'm going to have my oracle 9i exams. Could you kindly send me whatever materials to my email address?

doraleung@sinaman.com

Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!

Best Regards,
dorapluto
baijumehta

2002-12-15, 12:03 am

quote:
Originally posted by vcr
Ask for help and though shall receive it.I will send you the ILT in PDF format.

Whats your email id?

My experience with OCP is if you run through the ILT manuals, should be more than enough than anything else.

Regards
VCR



Hey VCR,
I hope you can help me by providing the ITL manuals. I have cleared the Oracle 9i (SQL exam). now i have started preparing for the next exam.

I will be obliged if you can provide me the PDF files.

My email id is brmehta@stthomas.edu

Thanks a lot.
Baiju.
adt1

2002-12-15, 6:28 am

Hi VCR, My email address is ramppag@yahoo.com and would appreciate the ILT for 9i OCP exams.

Thx
adt
Alf.Pathros

2002-12-15, 8:55 am

Hello VCR!

Would please give a hand with the STS, ILT preparation exam for the OCA 9i, I am planning in taking these exam, but I'd like to practice some time before taking the real test.

I really appreciate your help in advance and I look forward to hearing from your soon
my e-mail: "alfpathros@yahoo.com"

Alf
fchy

2002-12-15, 10:33 pm

Please send me a copy to fchy@usa.net

Cheers.
Sexy Lexy

2002-12-16, 4:53 am

You people are a disgrace to the industry, free loading with brain dumps and sharing the "material" with those who are as stupid enough to request the information.

Paper oracle DBA's to the extreme.

Take some pride and dignity in your career and well as being human instead of this public display of cheating.


ssekar76

2002-12-16, 6:01 am

hi friends

pls send ILT/STS for oracle 9i OCA exams

to ssekar76@hotmail.com

thanks in advance...

regards
sekar
M35power

2002-12-16, 7:11 am

Any material to help prepare for the 031, 032 and 033 would be appreciated.

M35power@yahoo.com

Thanks!
Sexy Lexy

2002-12-16, 7:38 am

You are all loosers.
baijumehta

2002-12-19, 9:38 am

Hi everybody,

I will be obliged, if anyone can provide me the ITL for OCA exams.

My email id is: brmehta@stthomas.edu

Thanks,
Sexy Lexy

2002-12-19, 9:44 am

Generally it's those with less than fifty posts that are asking for this information.

In other words, selfish morons who want something for nothing because you are cheats and bone idle.

This thread needs to be closed.
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