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The Light

2002-09-11, 7:47 am

I've purchased 70-217 guides from ChinaIt and testking yesterday. I was very surprised to find that the two PDF files were EXACTLY the same!!! Yes, I mean EXACTLY the same!!! Now I have two copies of the same PDF file

What's going on here? Are these (ChinaIt and TestKing) guys are the same? Anyone here with the same bad experience?

Well, it seems that these guys are trying to fool us, offering the same guides under two (or more?) different names!!!

What a scam! BE AWARE!
Pavlov

2002-09-11, 8:41 am

And you've chosen two of the most disreputable "study guides" on line. These are merely dumps with wrong answers so be sure to check everything for yourself.
jeff_j_black

2002-09-11, 11:11 am

Oh the sorry state of certifiaction training. Sorry to hear of your difficulty. Thanks for sharing your experience and feel free to ask those people who are on the boards about various books and resources. I have not looked at ChinaIT or Testking, but pretty much try to stick with books from authorized publishers and exam prep vendors that will at least give you some sample of the material prior to purchase. Don't let this set you back on your journey, best of luck.
quyda

2002-09-12, 12:30 am

At the very first time, I was believe in these bullshit but then I found out Only Transcender is the best, that's why they are expensive (though I didn't have to buy them :-) )!
apna

2002-09-12, 1:45 am

I have heard from so many sources that Test king is crap..and they give you all the wrong answers.
I have a copy of Trandscenders. They seem to be quite good.

Sorry to hear that u got duped.I guess the next time u buy something u should check with the forum members...What say guys!!??
vihrushka

2002-09-12, 2:30 am

I'm sorry to hear that you've been dumped.
The forums are full of posts saying the same things. You should read before buying. Next time thrust the forum and buy something else. The leaders are EasyCert (www.jrksoftware.com) and Transcender(www.transcender.com). They worth the money spend on them.

I personally prefer EasyCert.
The Light

2002-09-12, 6:38 am

Yeah, I know... "the cheap is most expensive". I just wanted to try those guides. Now, I'll try to get my money back )

I'll stick with EasyCert. These guys never failed me. Wish me luck!
tomcat21

2002-09-16, 2:33 am

ChinaIT? Suppose its from the mainland..tat's why.
pist

2002-09-20, 4:42 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Pavlov
And you've chosen two of the most disreputable "study guides" on line. These are merely dumps with wrong answers so be sure to check everything for yourself.


i dont know how you figure they stink... a few people in my class have gotten their certs because of testking... from what i hear the stuff is dead on if you have the current guide... i know they arent bsing me because these arent the brightest people so i doubt they could pass the tests on their own
The Light

2002-09-21, 4:34 am

It's easy. just look on their answers and explanations. these are braindumps collected from Internet.


quote:
Originally posted by pist


i dont know how you figure they stink... a few people in my class have gotten their certs because of testking... from what i hear the stuff is dead on if you have the current guide... i know they arent bsing me because these arent the brightest people so i doubt they could pass the tests on their own

jeff_j_black

2002-09-21, 5:02 pm

pist:

quote:
i dont know how you figure they stink... a few people in my class have gotten their certs because of testking... from what i hear the stuff is dead on if you have the current guide... i know they arent bsing me because these arent the brightest people so i doubt they could pass the tests on their own


So it's a good thing that dim witted people can get the same certifications as talented people who work and study hard. That to me makes testking stink. Why is it different than stealing the exam from the professors desk? Which side of the fence are you on? The bright or the dim?
The Light

2002-09-22, 4:40 am

You're right!!!

quote:
Originally posted by jeff_j_black
pist:
So it's a good thing that dim witted people can get the same certifications as talented people who work and study hard. That to me makes testking stink. Why is it different than stealing the exam from the professors desk? Which side of the fence are you on? The bright or the dim?

dwatts

2002-09-22, 7:41 am

Heh Heh. I once fired a trainer whom I caught using braindumps. In a way it's good idiots come on here saying they use them. Makes it easier to figure out who the losers are
jeff_j_black

2002-09-22, 7:57 am

Hey kid here's thiry bucks, go out and get yourself certified.
pist

2002-09-25, 7:24 pm

the way i see it microsoft has pushed people into braindumping... so have companies that make study material... microsoft has made the tests harder to reduce the ammount of paper certs they have only encouraged people to use braindumps to ensure passing... the makers of training material are responsible because they all claim to be complete training solutions and none of them are... look at alot of books and training videos and they all claim to be standalone solutions... if you believe these claims and use only 1 kind of material you will fail... on top of that people shouldnt even be getting the higher level mcp's until they have experience... the job market has dictated a demand for these credentials so people are getting them before they can use them... i doubt that i will be designing any networks within 2 years of getting my mcse

the bottom line is that the whole certification system has become a game... it should be simple... you do some honest studying and you pass the tests... its a joke... microsofts book for network infastructure doesnt even have anything about subnetting... if i was foolish enough to trust any vendors claims about their study material and failed a test because of it i would be extremely pissed
mikop

2002-09-25, 9:28 pm

nt
jeff_j_black

2002-09-27, 3:13 pm

I would agree that the format of the test allows cheaters to cheat. But the fact that there's a bank on every corner and people needing money, does not make robbing banks legitemate.

There are still people who read books, work on computers to get hands-on and research items on the web. Basically, they learn the material along with passing the exam.

The fact that there is a way to cheat does not in any way diminish the morality of the issues, it only diminishes the eventual value of a piece of paper.

Back that paper up with experience and knowledge and it has value.

Cheating generates no value. If your surgeon or lawyer got their diplomas and passed their boards based on cheating, you'd either be dead or wish you were.
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