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| Bannaman 2002-06-06, 7:16 am |
| Hey people, im am planning to take the ads exam next friday, i covered 210 and 215 pretty well, any topic areas i should focus on and how hard was the exam? indications of time and score would be much appriciated as well. i heard gpo's should be a focus and i am pretty understanding there and in the general concept of ads. i got the m$ press and transenders, plus the old STS and examgear which to honest has not really helped me in either of my exams. thanks for the help people.... | |
| KScheler 2002-06-06, 4:33 pm |
| Good luck with the exam. I found it to be a fair exam. No score, PASS/FAIL, 63 questions. I used MS Press and Transcenders for it and feel that both covered all required topics. Yes, you WILL see GPOs. | |
| Chrini71 2002-06-06, 10:05 pm |
| Everybody thinks that is not that hard test.
I haven't took it yet so I can not give you input.
Good luck. | |
| Bannaman 2002-06-07, 11:11 am |
| cheers for the input on the exam, well onwards to it, i have started revision and am going for it next friday or saturday, lets see how it all goes... | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-06-08, 12:15 pm |
| Be prepared for lengthy, wordy questions. Knowledge of GPO's is good, but make sure you understand the logical and physical elements that make up AD. RIS and software deployment are represented and theres some weird questions about permissions to view event logs I did not get to prepare for. I was just getting over the flu when I took this one so take this with a grain of salt, but I thought 217 was almost as hard as 216. (I took 216 first and had to take a couple of swings at it.) Good luck! | |
| freak 2002-06-08, 12:26 pm |
| I don't think that it is an easy test. I don't think that it is a hard test either. So at the end of the day, I agree that the word "fair" is the best way to describe this test. Here is a hint: study for the 217 adn the 219 test at the same time! | |
| Chrini71 2002-06-08, 1:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
I don't think that it is an easy test. I don't think that it is a hard test either. So at the end of the day, I agree that the word "fair" is the best way to describe this test. Here is a hint: study for the 217 adn the 219 test at the same time!
Freak I all follow your advice. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-06-08, 1:21 pm |
| It is actually good to see Microsoft muscle up the 216 and 217, yes it is fair for people who study hard and practice with the actual product. Hope it cuts down on the perception of 'paper tigers' because I don't feel like one. I worked hard for my MCSE. This is the first successful educational endeavor I have made since high school and that was a long time ago. I really learned how to learn and have quite a system down. I can apply this technique again and again. I am really appreciative of certification programs.
Freak is definitely correct on the 219, you should be able to take it right away if you are well prepped for 217. I like the Reskit chapter on designing active directory.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...bd_ads_HEQS.asp
Looks like they have broken it up across several pages now but if you read this you will be ready. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-08, 7:37 pm |
| 217 is booked for next week; are 217 and 219 that closely related in subject matter? From this forum it is a four scenario exam so how does that work?
If the two exams are so closely related then all being well I shall book 219 in a few weeks depending on a pass and on your feedback. Any advice would be more than welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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| same material looked at from a different perspective. For example:
217: what is an OU?
219: would you use an OU for this issue? Or would you use a Domain? | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 6:37 am |
| Testing your knowledge on the same subject but from a different approach, sounds delightful!
So you would suggest hitting 219 after 217?
From other posts, 218 isn't that different from the material covered in the core exams.
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| yup, I would do 217 first, then 219 a couple of days after while it is all still fresh in your mind...
The 218 you can do anytime. If you already passed the 216 and 217, the 218 will be a walk in the park. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 7:06 am |
| 217 this week, then after your advice it's on to 219. I will hide from civilisation while I revise for 216 for a month or so.
Is 216 really that bad? What does it focus around? To be honest, I haven't really looked into 216 that much as learning the skill sets for the other W2K exams has taken up my spare time.
Sorry for the barrage of questions!
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| frankly, yes, the 216 is *that* bad 
It is heavy on DNS, RRAS, NAT, all that good stuff. Definitely get as much hands on with the above before even thinking about taking the test is my advice | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 7:18 am |
| Your advide is always adhered and well respected. So that is the next couple of months of my life spoken for.
If I was married I could add a divorce certificate to my achievements!!!!!!!
Thank you again for the advice, I'm off to revise for this weeks exam, the weather is terrible in the UK at the moment so it's not that big a pain.
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| LOL I am married, and I am still married after two MCSEs. I always tell everyone who asks that all the merit for my success goes to my wife | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 9:17 am |
| That's a sweet gesture and she must be understanding if she is still your wife after two MCSE's and I thought I had no free time you must have none at all.
There are those on here with a wife and children, heaven knows how you guys find the time as I find it a struggle at times so it shows the dedication displayed by everyone. My hat goes off to you as you always find the time to help others as well.
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| She is fantastic indeed... and we have two kids as well
I think that when one undertakes the pursuit of a cert like the MCSE, they should have a conversation with their loved one, where it is agreed that the student will be limited in their ability to help out with house chores.
Pursuing the MCSE is a short period of time, and all efforts should be dedicated to that pursuit for that period of time.
My wife agrees that when I study for a cert of that magnitude, it is for the good of the whole family, as it results in higher paychecks that enable us to keep my wife at home, so that we do not have to resort to have someone else raise our kids.
We both sacrifice for the greater good, so to speak | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 10:28 am |
| You have a level of understanding that is quite rare these days, sounds like you have a terrific family there.
Sorry to break the mood but I have a DNS question for you.
Primary zone = initial zone.
Seconday zone = copy of primary.
Cache zone = read only copy for resolution.
Is a Secondary a read only copy as well?
I know this is correct just need someone to comfirm this for me.
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| freak 2002-06-09, 10:32 am |
| Yup, a secondary zone is a read only zone.
For example, most ISPs will have a secondary zone for Microsoft, so that their client requests can be handled faster -- without having to go all the way to the Microosft DNS servers everytime.
However, I am not sure that MS would allow any local ISP to modify the MS DNS zone  | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 10:35 am |
| So a secondary zone is to a primary what the BDC database is to the PDC database in NT, it holds a full copy that is read only? used for authentication / resolution (Just a generalisation) but only the primary can be updated?
Is this correct?
Thanks again for your help.
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| freak 2002-06-09, 10:41 am |
| yup, perfect analogy | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-06-09, 10:44 am |
| You are indeed a life saver, my kindest regards to you and your family, I am off to revise for my impending exam.
Thanks once again.
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