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| fatchronos 2003-04-29, 6:19 pm |
| Another thing i should know how to do... but the mspress really doesn't cover this in enough detail... so many vague and incomplete references, it gives me the shits!!
anyway, here is what i have
2 networks, 159.51.71.0/24 and 159.51.73.0/24
router at 159.51.71.1 that goes to the internet. i have a server on 159.51.71.101/159.51.73.1 (2 network cards) and a computer on 159.51.73.2
I want to make a static route so that firstly computer 159.51.73.2 can access the 159.51.71.0 network, and secondary objective is for it to also be able to access the internet
I need to know, what do i need for the default gateway on both net cards on the server, what i should put in the interface/dest/netmask/gateway of the static route
I assume a static route is what i should be using...
I know i should know how to do this, having 210/215/218 under my belt but these bloody M$ books are so vague... anyway thanks guys | |
| Slinky 2003-04-29, 7:30 pm |
| I feel your pain, that why you need to get down and dirty to figure it out. 
I have two adapters in my router at home. One interface is named "Subnet 1" and the other is "Subnet 2". The "Subnet 1" NIC in my router has an IP of 10.0.0.1 with a mask of 255.255.255.0. "Subnet 2" NIC has an IP of 192.168.1.254 with a mask of 255.255.255.0. Both have blank default gateways.
Let's say that you have another computer called "Client 1" with an IP of 10.0.0.2 and a mask of 255.255.255.0 and it wants to communicate with "Subnet 2" (192.168.1.0). The easiest way to go about this is to create 1 static route. You also have to remember that "Client 1" will need a default gateway, which in this case is the IP of the "Subnet 1" NIC. (But you already knew that. )The destination network for the route you need to create is obviously 192.168.1.0 with a mask of 255.255.255.0 since that where you need to go. Make sense? For the interface when you create the route you will need to use "Subnet 1" and for the gateway you will need to use 10.0.0.1. After that you may need to restart RRAS for it to work properly.
Remember the gateway in the static route has to be directly reachable by the interface you select. So obviously they have to be on the same network.
It took me a little while to get figured out, but it does work and thats the exact way I did it. Routing is one of those things where hands on is damn near required to learn. | |
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| Slinky 2003-04-29, 7:59 pm |
| Sorry, didn't answer your question directly. Here's how it will look in your case.
NIC 1
159.51.71.101
255.255.255.0
NIC 2
159.51.73.1
255.255.255.0
Client 1
159.51.73.2
255.255.255.0
159.51.73.1
So for Client 1 to access the other network you will need to create 1 static route. The interface will be NIC 2 and the gateway will be 159.51.73.1. You shouldn't have to create any additional routes to access the internet, since NIC 1 and the internet router are on the same network. | |
| Slinky 2003-04-29, 8:12 pm |
| Make sure you have the appropriate entries in your routing table. Do a "route print" in the command window to verify it. You should see something like 159.51.71.0 255.255.255.0 159.51.73.1 159.51.73.1 1
If you don't see that then try "route -f" to clear the routing table and then restart RRAS and see if it shows up. | |
| Slinky 2003-04-29, 8:16 pm |
| I'm kind of confused by the pictues. The two gray ones appear to be the router and one of the blue ones appears to be the client. But I don't understand why the static route box is blue.  It should be gray if the gray boxes are the router. The static route entry needs to be created on the router and not the client. | |
| Slinky 2003-04-29, 8:26 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by fatchronos
Could the problem be (this is just a thought) the computers - server, my computer and the other network are all physically joined at the same hubs - i can access the other network directly from my computer without a problem, internet etc but i would like to be able to set this up just so i know how. would the fact that they areny physically disconnected from each other cause a problem? or it should be fine?
Interesting. I've never joined two networks together using one router and one hub. If you have a crossover cable try hooking client 1 directly up to the appropriate NIC on the router and use the hub for the other side of the network.
So from what your saying is that you have both NICs in the router going into one hub and all the clients from both networks going into the same hub? I don't think that will work, but then again I've never tried. May have to try what I said above. I guess its possilbe since hubs operate below the network layer. But that definately makes it a nighmare. | |
| fatchronos 2003-04-29, 8:26 pm |
| sorry about that. the routing pic was taken on my computer, cause its easier to do mmc related stuff from here. but it was connected to the router, not my computer.
I'm working on it now, will let you know how it goes. thanks for your help... i might need it again shortly cause i dont think its working | |
| Slinky 2003-04-29, 9:04 pm |
| I tried it the same way you have it setup, and it worked fine. The only thing I didn't do was put in the internet router IP on that NIC since I can't connect to the internet using that. | |
| fatchronos 2003-04-29, 9:34 pm |
| bloody farken thing still doesn't work... and i don't have a crossover cable (that works)
I will try a few other things. maybe it will work for me at home (I'm at work, part of my job is learning all this stuff... what a scam ) | |
| RenatoBerana 2003-05-01, 2:21 am |
| hahaha!!! its better to do it at home buddy, because your boss might catch u!!! be careful doing these things at the office because im doing the same. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-05-03, 8:31 am |
| Tell me about it! I have built two computers into small cardboard boxes, so I can have two exchange servers under my desk. I installed a second nic and configured a seperate network, without routing, so my lab won't leak out into the production environment. Pile a couple of toner cartridge boxes in front and nobody's the wiser. I only really work in my lab early in the morning, lunchtime and after work, though. | |
| fatchronos 2003-05-03, 8:02 pm |
| Hah nice
But i actually get paid to learn this stuff. I don;t have to be sneaky, its part of my job (cause dad's the boss)
aaah nepotism what a lovely word | |
| bbraunstein 2003-05-05, 11:05 am |
| Ha ha ha. You guys are hilarious! I have a small work environment so doing "testing" on it isn't a big deal. I am a fanatic about backing things up anyway so not really much risk.
My boss doesn't really know any better so when she sees me "working" at the computer she thinks I am busy and leaves me alone.
In theory, we SHOULD be getting paid to test and study for exams. After all, who benefits the most? That's right, our EMPLOYERS.
But i love the story about the servers under the boxes, Jeff. And I never discard old toner cartridges and their boxes because they do make the best concealers. Ha ha ha ha.....ahh the life of techies!! LOL. | |
| jeff_j_black 2003-05-05, 7:16 pm |
| One of my boxes uses the VIA Mini ITX board. It has everything on-board and the board is 6.7 inches square. You can get it with a fan-less VIA C533 processor (Integrated CPU, no upgrade possible) for $100. Just add a stick or two of RAM (PC100 or PC133 supported up to a Gig of RAM), Mini ATX 150 watt P/S and a hard drive and you will be amazed at how small a box you can fit this thing into.
I have a 10 Gig drive on there with a small boot partition, an NT partition, a 2000 partition and another utility partition big enough to hold the installs for NT, 2000, Exchange 5.5 and Exchange 2000 plus a few utilities.
On the boot partition I have the option of booting into MSDOS network client, just to be able to get things started, thats the only time I had a keyboard and monitor attached to this thing, after that its remote administration only. Just building this lab was an experience, but it has been worth it for my Exchange studies. |
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