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| charlie69 2002-07-15, 8:01 pm |
| I think I may have had some mis-information in a 70-216 class I took.
Can a DHCP relay agent go on a Pro machine? I was told that it could in class and cannot find anything in Microsoft or any books I have that prove it.
I know it can be added on a server (quite obviously) in RRAS, but can it be added via a resource kit or something to a Pro machine???? Would really appreciate a straight answer to this.
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| jeff_j_black 2002-07-16, 9:39 am |
| You would have to be running RRAS to set up DHCP Relay. In my search of the Microsoft Knowledge Base, all of the references for installing and configuring the DHCP Relay Agent listed only 2k Server and Advanced server in the 'applies to:' section. Good question, like to hear others answers if Pro can do it.
KB Article on DHCP Relay:DHCP Relay config
Your class may have confused WINS Proxy with DHCP Relay, surprisingly many MS clients can be WINS Proxy:WINS Proxy config | |
| l9nux 2002-07-16, 11:47 am |
| In Feb this year I attended the course for the 210 and 215 exam and I seem to remember them saying W2K pro can be as well as W98!!
I'd love to know whether this is right? | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-07-16, 12:07 pm |
| I would say no as one of the exam questions asks what machine would you use on subnet X to relay DHCP requests and I'm sure that only the different flavours of server permit DCHP forwarding (That's was my answer, anyway.)
As Jeff has so rightly pointed out you can use professional as a WINS proxy.
Top Bloke.
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| jeff_j_black 2002-07-16, 12:31 pm |
| Go to the http://support.microsoft.com page and search the Knowledge Base. The correct answer is there but it is not the one you want. | |
| longshot 2002-07-17, 3:14 pm |
| I have absolutely no real backup for this explanation and it probably adds up to a flight of ideas but here it goes:
I know that a W2K pro box can act as a dhcp server to a workgroup and an internet gateway with a firewall (because I have done it and it serves 3 WIN9X boxes) I also know that it can host a vpn connection.(indicates RRAS) wouldn't it stand to reason that it could also act as a DHCP relay agent ? I make it a rule to not disagree with Jeff and I am only speculating because I have not done it, and I don't really have a situation to try it. I hope that this doesn't make it more difficult but I believe that yes you can. As for how it is done I really don't know. | |
| wbafrank 2002-07-17, 4:50 pm |
| Any WIN 3.11, WIN 9x, WIN NT or W2K computers can act as the agent with the software installed. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-07-18, 3:20 pm |
| I can imagine there is a possiblity for a client to be a DHCP relay agent, but on three separate searches of the knowledge base and Technet, I am unable to find a single reference to installing RRAS or similar on a client O/S. Anyone up to providing a solid link? | |
| charlie69 2002-07-18, 7:06 pm |
| wbafrank
So you are saying yes, you can put the relay on a Pro machine. My question is where do you do this or what program? Is it part of a resource kit or other software?
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| wbafrank 2002-07-19, 7:37 am |
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Originally posted by wbafrank
Any WIN 3.11, WIN 9x, WIN NT or W2K computers can act as the agent with the software installed.
Having read an article that stated the above and on further investigation on the MS site, though it states any computer can be used as the DHCP Relay Agent if RRAS is installed. But, in another article it states that RRAS cannot be installed on a Windows 2000 professional machine. Therefore, I will retract my earlier statement, and agree with jeff_j_black that it cannot be done at this moment in time.
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DHCP Relay Agent
Used to forward DHCP requests through routers to the DHCP server. Usually the router is configured as the DHCP relay agent, but any computer on the segment to be serviced may be configured as the agent. The "Routing and Remote Access" administrative tool is used to install and configure the DHCP relay agent.
But I will still look into this as I have a nagging suspicion that it can be done some how ..... | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-07-19, 8:01 am |
| Yeah, Frank I know what you mean! I really looked into it but I don't have the time to look any more. Maybe I didn't find it because I was sceptical? Like you say with the software present. But I could not find it within the context of Microsoft. Maybe some third party has router software for Windows clients. | |
| charlie69 2002-07-19, 8:07 am |
| Thanks, I will go with that until I see any further proof. According to a test question I have seen, it only goes on Servers. I did do extensive search on the Microsoft site and every book I have and they did only pertain to servers. | |
| charlie69 2002-07-19, 8:11 am |
| Jeff
That is exactly what I thought too about some other software vendor, but then that would not be in the scope of the Microsoft test so not as important to find out for test purposes. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-07-19, 10:12 am |
| It's kind of a shame to have to use a server license to provide DHCP relay agent functionality, huh? This really highlights the design aspect of networking. Interesting to ponder. Well thanks everyone for the discourse. | |
| charlie69 2002-07-19, 1:44 pm |
| I never really thought about it that way but if you think of it, the only reason you would really need to use DHCP is if you have a large network and with a large network you would probably want a server and Active Directory anyway.
Thanks for all the responses! | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-07-19, 3:00 pm |
| Very good thought! you would kind of have to design subnets around the number of clients to be served, then design the required services for each subnet and so on... | |
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Originally posted by jeff_j_black
It's kind of a shame to have to use a server license to provide DHCP relay agent functionality, huh? This really highlights the design aspect of networking. Interesting to ponder. Well thanks everyone for the discourse.
i think only on server and adv server:
"How to Use DHCP to Provide RAS Clients with DHCP Options
The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows 2000 Server
Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server"
from a MS link... |
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