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| CyberDude 2002-04-04, 8:47 am |
| Ok, problem time again.
I have decided that I want my test computer purely for 2000 server, so that I can explore AD more thoroughly with a bit more space.
The problem is that the wife still want to have an internet connection for the laptop upstairs. This was usually achieved via either 2000 pro or server (which ever one I was running at the time) using ICS.
I have just tried to get ICS working from my work computer running ME, but for some reason it would not find any web pages (why is it that ICS is so frustratingly horrible to set up on a 95 kernel machine?).
I know that ICS supplies limited versions of dns and dhcp and so does NAT if you configure it to become them as well. This means that I will not have the full capabilities of the complete dns or dhcp services.
If I use my test computer solely for AD, I will not be able to use ICS (as I cannot configure the services correctly). Can I use NAT with a dial-up connection, or is it strictly for permanent connections? I think the latter is right.
If I am right then I will have to keep 2000 pro on my test computer for the sole use of ICS for the wife (if this is the case can I get away with installing the OS using a size less than the recommended 2Gb partition?
I am probably trying to get blood from a stone with this, but I have to ask. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-04-04, 1:50 pm |
| The obvious point is ICS will not function with DHCP and DNS on the network, so NAT would be the best option, if you wanted to run server exclusively. Yes, you can fit 2K server on less than 2Gigs. I have one DC that runs on 1.2 Gigs on my test network, but there's not enough space to install SP2 on it! | |
| CyberDude 2002-04-04, 1:56 pm |
| It looks like I will have to keep pro and server on the test computer then, in order for me to fulfil my study requirements. I was hoping to have just server on the HD, so that I cound upgrade the disk to dynamic as well.  | |
| carlitos 2002-04-04, 11:07 pm |
| you could buy a router too
so the laptop will have access regardless of what you do with your other PC | |
| CyberDude 2002-04-05, 2:46 am |
| Buying a router requires something that unemployed people do not have a lot of, MONEY. Thank you for your valid point, and if I could afford it I would purchase one (although I believe my wife would not like it).
Can NAT function with a dial-up connection, as my book states that you need to have a permanent connection with a valid IP address? | |
| swordfish78 2002-04-05, 6:57 am |
| Can set up NAT ..
1)Public Interface to the internet ISP
But (depends on the IP you got from ISP, if it is static, you can configure it straight away on the Public Interface, but if dynamic, you need to configure everytime you got a new IP lease from ISP)
2) Private Interface to your LAN..
Connection to the laptop and PC. Can assign it to lease address automatically for the laptop and PC.
IT should work on this way. | |
| CyberDude 2002-04-05, 7:04 am |
| Is it possible to set the public interface to dynamically get an address, as with a dial-up connection, in order to get an address you must be connected to your ISP. Then to have to configure NAT for that address you have to disconnect. Once you disconnect you lose the address, so I don't see how you can configure it once you have got a dynamic address. It must be able to get one itself. Otherwise, it can only function on a static address.  | |
| swordfish78 2002-04-05, 7:28 am |
| Can probably assign the address that your ISP is frequently assign eg: 207.46.0.1 to 207.46.255.254 (this is just example, depends on your ISP that assigns the particular address)
Check this out under Address Pool Tab..
Hope this helps.. | |
| KScheler 2002-04-05, 8:27 am |
| I beleive it should work if you setup demand-dial for the connection to the ISP. On 216 I saw a few questions dealing with setting up demain-dial on the public interface so your clients can access the net. | |
| CyberDude 2002-04-05, 12:34 pm |
| I have now scanned my 215 and 216 books. It is strange really that my 216 book only mentions that NAT is for static IP's, whereas my 215 book clearly goes through the config for both static and dynamic. It looks like I am going to have to not only read and digest the book for the exam I want to take, but will have to reread the ones I have taken already, as some subjects are explained more fully in different books. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-04-05, 5:45 pm |
| MS has both a step by step and how to for NAT, online. Check 'em out? | |
| CyberDude 2002-04-06, 5:05 am |
| It seems that I have wasted my time sometimes in buying these cert books, as all I could of done is spent a couple of days just printing off everything from MS. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-04-06, 9:49 am |
| It helps to have book, but what you've just said by and large is true, especially for 219. One chapter from the reskit (online!) was all that is needed! If you really want to make your own book, start with the test objectives and course outline from the ms train/cert area. From there go to the step by step area and map any step by step guides that might cover objectives, also look for any how to guides. Finally find the various white papers and reskit chapters needed. Use the course outline to guide you throught the various resources you've collected, maybe plan to do a module a day. I find the doing a module a day keeps you moving quickly and gives you focus throughout the day. Follow all of this with questions of the day, online practice exams and downloaded trial exams and you have just gotten off for cheap! | |
| wbafrank 2002-04-06, 10:39 am |
| to Jeff's comments is get to know what is on the MS site it has a lot to offer. | |
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| CyberDude 2002-04-10, 3:53 am |
| Thanks for the help guys. The links were good and were the ones that I had found also. My book goes in the same format. It is just that I do not want the NAT to become a dns a dhcp service, as this will prevent me from learning all the configs for the full dns and dhcp services. | |
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