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KC-Belfast

2002-04-01, 1:51 pm

I just passed 217 on friday and i`m going to tackle 216. I found 217 tricky enough and i just want to know how much harder 216 is?(if any)
Also i would appreciate advice on any good study materials or practice exam sites (no dumps) for my next task!!!
cross36

2002-04-01, 2:01 pm

How hard is 216?
It's the toughest core "beast"
It took me 6 weeks to prepare, and I did need it.
Read the MS book back and forth, post questions.
And read each question of the day to test your knowledge.
KScheler

2002-04-01, 2:19 pm

Congrats on the pass! I hear 216 is a beast, too. I plan on taking it soon, myself.
wbafrank

2002-04-01, 2:19 pm

depends on if you have access to a test lab. I found the best formula to pass this exam is to get hands on experience - I don't think I could have passed it just using the books.

Though the test is hard it is passable - if you treat it with the respect it derserves it won't bite back!!
KC-Belfast

2002-04-01, 2:24 pm

I currently have only two servers in my lab, will i need another?
eljefe79

2002-04-01, 2:53 pm

quote:
Originally posted by KC-Belfast
I currently have only two servers in my lab, will i need another?


I would recommend it however you can get by. Your going to have to have one of the boxes do double duty as a RRAS box, then router, secondary DNS. It's nice to have these things setup and not have to tear things down. If you work through a problem...get it wrong you can always eval it in your preset lab. It will be easier for you to get a second relatively cheap box. Having a highbandwidth connection with friends is great for setting up VPN tunnels too. You'll also be better off with a couple of client WS s also. Here are some observations for your exam. Make it as close to a commercial environment as possible. Buy used equipment!!!

http://www.examnotes.net/forums/sho...&threadid=33665

I've been called a geek, only because I gave up my living room as a lab

4 servers, (1 IBM Netfinity, 1 HP Netserver LHPro and 2 clones)DDS2 tape backup
2 workstations
2 laptops
8 pt switchbox
netgear 10/100 switch
Bay networks 350 series 24 pt manageble switch
3com Hubstack manageable
2200 Smart UPS
LJ4 with JDir
Linksys router

I'm waiting to get my hands on a cisco router next
freak

2002-04-01, 4:36 pm

quote:
Originally posted by wbafrank
depends on if you have access to a test lab. I found the best formula to pass this exam is to get hands on experience - I don't think I could have passed it just using the books.

Though the test is hard it is passable - if you treat it with the respect it derserves it won't bite back!!




I agree with all of the above. Practice and hnads on are a prereq for this test.
CandyKueh

2002-04-02, 8:32 pm

As for me it took me altogether 10 months to do the revision for all 7 modules. This month is the 11th month. Then I had a real handson practice for 2 months... at least that will provide me full overview about Windows 2000 platform. This helps me a lot for my exam because I've found out you will get questions from everywhere.

Like the DHCP Questions I've posted earlier. It's very straight forward. But people tends to neglect some other not so important part. That's lead to "careless". 70-216 is tough and challenging. Because questions changes very frequent and very unpredicted. Answer provided very closed to each other, you must make sure you clearly knows it. Because all answer is "make sense" to possibly correct.
that's the toughest part of this paper.

The rest (I've taken 6 so far) is pretty straight forward. You will find the possible answer and changes to get it correct is high but not for 216.

Just my 2 cents of opinions. Do read about dumps. And try that out in your lab to prove your answer is correct. Do research on the answer and I will this will greatly increase your knowledge and understanding. It is also easier for you to slay the beast during exam. I don't agree and I believe those who just read dumps will definitely pass. NO! not for this paper anymore. Don't ever under-estimate this BEAST.

Wish you luck! I will slaying this beast this friday!
CandyKueh

2002-04-02, 8:37 pm

Just some adds-on.

Dumps is NOT everything. Answer given is not 100% right. That's why the discussion group is so important where we will look for advice from other experts beside out own strength and understanding.

Dumps can ONLY USED as a reference. NOT STUDYING MATERIALS. If you need pratices exercises. That's the place you get the questions.

Be aware that the answer is NOT so accurate. You must VERIFY with your own knowledge.
KScheler

2002-04-02, 8:56 pm

Well said! Don't rely on dumps. They can be misleading.
CandyKueh

2002-04-02, 9:45 pm

Yup!!

Study Smart rather than Study Hard.

Knowledge and Education is the greatest asset that money can't replace it in my life.
jakob79

2002-04-02, 9:58 pm

Hi Candy! Which part of Malaysia are you from? I'm from KL.. where did you go for your training? What are you doing now? Are you working, still studying or just focusing on certification?

As for me.. I'm still a student.. now busy preparing my final year project.. Can you share with us your study methods? I noted that you have 1 more paper before being recognised as an MCSE.. congrats on your achievement.. I guess you r already an MCSA..

I passed the 70-210 & 70-215 paper.. later on I'll be having almost a month's break & I intend to take 3 papers which are 70-216, 70-217 & 70-218.. as I want to be recognised as an MCSA.. later on after I finish my final year project.. maybe I'll take the 2 designing papers.. your reply is greatly appreciated.. thanks a lot
CandyKueh

2002-04-02, 10:25 pm

KL too!

Instructor-led Training from New Horizons (KL) as well. If you want to share I guess better email me directly. Heheh

Study Materials that I used are:
Thomson Learning
Sybex
New Horizons Study Guide from Element K
sebrojas

2002-04-03, 4:27 pm

I thought the 217 was a bit harder than the 216....Half way through the 217 i was thinking i'd failed so i was going to sit through the rest of the test...ended up passing..(good thing for the pass or fail). They're both very tough exams but if you do your thing and study they're not impossible to pass.
Kmitt

2002-04-04, 3:34 am

How hard is 216?

I passed the exam last Thursday. I was a bit surprised because of the 65 instead of expected 55 questions. It took me 3 weeks (after work) to prepare the exam using Transcender and working through the 2154 Trainer Kit. The topics in this exam were RRAS / DHCP and DNS. Compared with 210 and 215 its quite hard, but with a good studying you'll make it.
Good luck.
KC-Belfast

2002-04-04, 3:15 pm

Just a quick note to say thank you to everyone who replied to my post.

KARL...
jakob79

2002-04-04, 8:52 pm

I got the Trancender for 70-216.. I'll be using it soon.. if only I can find the time.. busy preparing for my project.. the presentation is between 15-20 April.. wish me luck
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