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| "Networks supporting Windows NT 4.0 and earlier clients must use WINS servers. Networks supporting a combination of Windows 2000 and Windows NT 4.0 clients should implement both WINS and DNS."
this from MS training kit....
i have a enviroment with 200 win2k and 6 win98, and 2 NT.... i only use DNS and everything works NICE. i must install WINS???????? | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-10-02, 6:41 pm |
| If the clients are getting on just fine what the heck, don't do it. But there are many network aware applications that use NETBIOS names for their network related functions. Chances are your downlevel clients are broacasting a lot to resolve NETBIOS names. Try sniffing the network and check for high broadcast counts. You have few downlevel clients, the the broadcast traffic may not be significant. By the way, are your downlevel clients using the Active Directory client software? | |
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Originally posted by jeff_j_black
If the clients are getting on just fine what the heck, don't do it. But there are many network aware applications that use NETBIOS names for their network related functions. Chances are your downlevel clients are broacasting a lot to resolve NETBIOS names. Try sniffing the network and check for high broadcast counts. You have few downlevel clients, the the broadcast traffic may not be significant. By the way, are your downlevel clients using the Active Directory client software?
dhcp currently register clients on behalf into dns..... everything is working nice....... maybe i need to wait to see if i need wins on the network.
use a wins service can make a bad impact into the network implementation?. i read several times that dns is the only name resolution service required and recommended as possible on a 2k domain!!!! | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-10-03, 7:00 am |
| That is purely idealistic. There are many apps and even functions in Windows 2000 that use NETBIOS names. Say for example you want to migrate an NT domain into your forest. The trust dialogue uses NETBIOS names. If you want to restrict users to certain workstations, NETBIOS names. Not to mention applications. | |
| Slinky 2002-10-03, 11:15 am |
| According to Microsoft, in a 100% homogenous Windows 2000 environment you do not need WINS. All you will need is DNS. | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-10-03, 11:21 am |
| Homogenous meaning all Windows 2000. And that only applies to the O/S as far as third party applications, testing is needed, case by case. | |
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Homogenous meaning all Windows 2000. And that only applies to the O/S as far as third party applications, testing is needed, case by case.
but i think on what SLINKY says.
Microsoft and all my teachers says that WINS is not needed. DHCP can register the netbios clients on DNS and AD on behalf of this hosts... no? | |
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Originally posted by jeff_j_black
That is purely idealistic. There are many apps and even functions in Windows 2000 that use NETBIOS names. Say for example you want to migrate an NT domain into your forest. The trust dialogue uses NETBIOS names. If you want to restrict users to certain workstations, NETBIOS names. Not to mention applications.
and why a client enviroment with 26 win2k pro, win2k servers, 7 win98se and 3 winm3 without WINS, only DNS and i can suscefully locate all hosts and services without problems.... | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-03, 1:11 pm |
| "If it's not broke, don't fix it." | |
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"If it's not broke, don't fix it."
real issue!! | |
| jeff_j_black 2002-10-03, 1:27 pm |
| Hey, I'm not saying add WINS, but if you encounter issues where software cannot function on the network, then at least you have a place to look. | |
| Slinky 2002-10-03, 1:45 pm |
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but i think on what SLINKY says.
Microsoft and all my teachers says that WINS is not needed. DHCP can register the netbios clients on DNS and AD on behalf of this hosts... no?
DCHP can register names if you have the option selected to "Update names if client requests it". Also DNS can perform WINS lookups also. Theres a record you can add to specify the name server in DNS. That way if you have a Windows 98 client that needs to resolve "Computer1" to an IP address it will query the DNS server, which in turn will query the WINS server for the name mapping. And then the DNS server returns the IP to the client.
WINS is almost a thing of the past. I suspect that it will be completely gone within a few years. | |
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That way if you have a Windows 98 client that needs to resolve "Computer1" to an IP address it will query the DNS server, which in turn will query the WINS server for the name mapping. And then the DNS server returns the IP to the client.
but i don`t have wins installed and name are resolved good!! |
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