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| Hello I'm 17 and have a CCNA. I plan to take the Routing CCNP test in december. The reason I'm posting here is that I was wondering wheather 716 is anything like the ccna. I have been working with win2k pro for about 9 months and win2k server very little. I plan to work with win2k server alot more in the next few months. I have the Win2k Microsoft Press books on win2k Core and The all the Microsoft Troytech's I was wondering if I should attempt 716 or any MCSE test within the year, and if so which.
Thank you for your time. | |
| Joe Blacke 2001-10-16, 5:03 pm |
| No, the 216 isn't like the CCNA exam.
The 216 deals with setting up Windows 2000 Routing and Remote Access servers, DNS servers, DHCP servers, WINS servers. Some of the concepts of how routing, DNS, DHCP, WINS, work will overlap, but the test is geared to being able to implement these items using Windows 2000 servers.
Your understanding of the overall concepts will help, but you need to have detailed knowledge on how to configure Windows 2000 servers to implement the concepts.
If you have your CCNA, and don't have any experience with Windows 2000 server, you don't stand a chance. You will definately need some practice and hands on.
For example, did your CCNA exam cover how to create a Remote access server, modify user accounts to allow remote network access, set remote policies using authentication and remote access policies located centrally on an IAS server? | |
| chodan 2001-10-16, 7:06 pm |
| I`ll have to agree.
I have a CCNP and from studying for 216
I can tell you that some of the topics covered in it are a little more advanced than CCNA and some are not.
Your knowledge of IP will serve you well but that is a small part of this test.
Also as was said some of its implementation questions are different.
Nat for win2k is a different animal than in Cisco and I believe it isn`t really covered in the CCNA if memory serves.
You should know it inside out for BCRAN though.
Windows routing is simpler though it seems but different enough to possibly cause problems.
I would focus on finishing CCNP first, don`t lose focus because that is the one thing that can carry you through.
Remember one premier cert is worth several entry level certs. | |
| eaferrer 2001-10-17, 12:46 am |
| You have to take it easy, I am already a CCNA and CCDA but to tell you the truth , 216 is the last exam i want to take for my MCSE ( i have 1 exam b4 216).
Just do it step by step study 210, 215,217 then go for 216 and get a life, go out and play basketball. | |
| necrophantasm 2001-10-23, 6:01 pm |
| 70-216 Deals way more with how to set up w2k server than with actual routing. If you are working towards CCNP, dont waste your time with MCSE. There is more demand and more money in Cisco than there will ever be in microsoft networking. To answer your question, the test barely requires you to know the difference between different routing protocols (unlike CCNA) and even with a full understanding of CCNA I have had a lot of trouble with this one... (Its all about properties boxes and refresh intervals.. lol). Good luck with CCNP! | |
| freak 2001-10-24, 12:32 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by eaferrer
You have to take it easy, I am already a CCNA and CCDA but to tell you the truth , 216 is the last exam i want to take for my MCSE ( i have 1 exam b4 216).
Just do it step by step study 210, 215,217 then go for 216 and get a life, go out and play basketball.
I could not agree more  | |
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| Hah you guys kill me...
From what all you are saying I should focus totally on CCNP, and not waste time on Microsoft. Well would it be okay to do Microsoft after attaining CCNP?
Thank you for your time. | |
| anthonie 2001-10-25, 6:40 am |
| IMHO, whether to go for CCNA or MCSE really depends on what you want to do. Or what career path you choose.
If you want to work with Cisco routers, configuring and troubleshooting them, then you should go for CCNP. Or maybe consider CCDA then CCDP if you're more interested in designing networks.
If you like to be in system admin or support and the system of your choice is Windows 2000 or the coming Windows XP and .NET, then go for MCSE. You may also do MCSA first, less exams to do.
The Cisco path is more on the hardware whereas the Microsoft path is more on the operating system. So consider about this, make your choice, and then concentrate on it.
Good luck! | |
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| The problem with that is I love playing with Cisco routers, but as the same time I see myself as a sys admin taking care of the entire network with Microsoft/Unix clients and servers. That's why I think it would be a good idea to go for the MCSE.
Thanks. | |
| chodan 2001-10-25, 3:25 pm |
| Well in my network I have to do both so it was a good fit for me "MCSE and CCNP".
We have 8 servers 1 on the way and were preparing for a win2K rollout and around 90 LAN hosts.
we have 2 linux servers for DNS and some linux servers with network monitering/management on em " MRTG and Big brother".
several routers "3640 two 7200 series 2 2600
2 2500 2 1600 series several 3xxx series catylyst gigabit switches.about 40 FVC ATM WAN switches and a Marconi ASX1000 core ATM switch with 10 gig backplane and around 50 T1
links going out of it to the fvc switches.
Lots of wotk but fun stuff.
BTW our IT staff is 3 including myself. | |
| anthonie 2001-10-25, 8:19 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Lain
The problem with that is I love playing with Cisco routers, but as the same time I see myself as a sys admin taking care of the entire network with Microsoft/Unix clients and servers. That's why I think it would be a good idea to go for the MCSE.
Thanks.
Hmm... that doesn't sound like a problem to me.
I'm an MCSE and am doing system admin and support job currently. And I have the interest in venturing into Cisco routers too. Maybe I'd share with you my plan.
I'd continue working with Windows NT and 2000 and whatever else for the moment. At the same time, I'd work and go for a couple more Microsoft certifications. After that, I'd find a chance to switch a bit to Cisco. Get some hands-on and then go for CCNA. I'll see if I'd continue to get CCNP after I've got my CCNA.
Hope this helps a little. Good luck! | |
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| Thanks you guys for a little bit of encouragement.. Since I already have my CCNA I think I'll stick with doing CCNP starting with Routing this December and Remote Access next June. My problem is finding a time to take the Microsoft tests simply because its a whole different world compared to Cisco. This week I should start to learn win2k server a bit more. Then I guess I'll decide what test I'll take and when.
Thank you for your time. |
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