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Braving 70-210 next Tuesday
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| drhixson 2002-12-23, 12:57 pm |
| I have been browsing other forums here for a while, and I just wanted to take a minute and let you know I am going to sit for the 70-210 exam next Tuesday. Wish me luck! | |
| Deja-vue 2002-12-24, 4:20 pm |
| Good Luck to ya' drhixson !
And a Merry Christmas.
I hope you'll crack it.
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| Glad to know someone else is sitting for this next Tue as well. This will be my first MCP exam after Server+. Good luck! Happy Holidays as well! | |
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| Forgot to ask, what did you use for prep? Let us know. | |
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| I wish you lots of luck. I am planning to have my 70-210 next Feb and I have already read a lot of books. As far as I started from scratches, which is I am proud of, I recommend Networking Complete by Sybex and then MCSE Training Kit by Microsoft and after being done studying you can prime all that with Microsoft Readiness Review.
Louai | |
| vincentnl 2002-12-25, 7:01 am |
| My advice to you my friend is to not only memmorise as many questions on this exam as possible but more importantly pass it.
There's a fair bit of binary out there and I hated the put an arrow to a picture questions.
Steel yourself for the worst. If you have a brain like a magnet or have had muliple pc's to practice, you will without question pass.
I am more than wishing you well. I am not a pc person and have failed this 210 exam twice. Pass it buddy. You'll be fine.
Vinnie. | |
| robertmillar 2002-12-25, 7:57 am |
| Good luck | |
| drhixson 2002-12-25, 10:08 am |
| I read about 4 books on it, exam essentials, ms press, etc. I also have a home lab with 4 servers, 5 workstations, 3 laptops, 2 network printers, on a routed segments.
So you are taking it Tuesday too? Mine is at 8:00am... to early...lol | |
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| You're ready! Your home network seems to be able to simulate most network situations. I'm using VMWare for simulations & handson as I just don't have the space.
All the best on the 210 & LOL (I probably need more of it).
Keep us updated. | |
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| Best of luck to both of you!! Let's us know how you did. | |
| luisjo 2002-12-26, 10:26 am |
| Tell us how did it go, did you both pass? | |
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| Made it! Passed about 3 hours ago on the very last day of 2002. | |
| luisjo 2002-12-31, 11:38 am |
| Whats next, are you going for the 215? | |
| drhixson 2002-12-31, 12:01 pm |
| Went to take mine but they were having trouble downloading the exam. After about a hour of waiting, i rescheduled for Thursday at 8:00am | |
| everetjo 2002-12-31, 12:57 pm |
| kuek, congrats on the pass..
what did you use to prepare? | |
| drhixson 2002-12-31, 2:45 pm |
| good job kuek! Wish me luck on Thursday | |
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| Thanks everyone! Cheers!
All the best, drhixson - you'll make it, Good Luck!
everetjo, I used the MCSE Core Training Kit from M$Press. With the benefit of hindsight, master the materials and handson before practice test packs (if you are not under any time pressure). The 210 materials by itself is insufficient. The article by Jill Gebelt in Certcities on the 210 exam review helped, I kind of used it as a checklist.
I think it helps (for me anyway) to put in a thread here to let everyone know when you booked the exam. The fact that folks here know when you are sitting for the exam puts that much more sense of urgency to put in the hours to hit the books, tests and labs to deliver. | |
| CuongTruong 2002-12-31, 10:25 pm |
| Best of luck with your exam, drhixson.
I plan to sit for it later this month as well.
By the way, I wish you all a very happy new year and pass as many exams as you wish.
Cuong Truong. | |
| Louai 2002-12-31, 10:39 pm |
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Originally posted by kuek
Thanks everyone! Cheers!
All the best, drhixson - you'll make it, Good Luck!
everetjo, I used the MCSE Core Training Kit from M$Press. With the benefit of hindsight, master the materials and handson before practice test packs (if you are not under any time pressure). The 210 materials by itself is insufficient. The article by Jill Gebelt in Certcities on the 210 exam review helped, I kind of used it as a checklist.
I think it helps (for me anyway) to put in a thread here to let everyone know when you booked the exam. The fact that folks here know when you are sitting for the exam puts that much more sense of urgency to put in the hours to hit the books, tests and labs to deliver.
hi again, I am preparing now for my exam so could you please post the url for the article you are talking about. Thanks a lot
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| Here you go: certcities/editorial/exams/story.asp?EditorialsID=1
Hope it helps! | |
| vincentnl 2003-01-01, 5:21 am |
| I'm doing the chicken run for the time being from MCSE stuff.
Gonna get me a book or two on A+ certification having gone into MSCE with £££ in my eyes and a hope in hell once I'd stepped into the water. Besides much of what I have learned is covered in both A+ and networking exams.
I've already been given a lead from this forum.
Vinnie. | |
| everetjo 2003-01-01, 11:30 am |
| thanks kuek,
here's a clickable link
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http://www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/editorial/exams/print.asp?EditorialsID=1
did you use any exam prep software?
i read the MM passport and worked through the MOC 70-210 book along with Freak's study guide. im confident, but im not in the 90s on the transcender.. | |
| everetjo 2003-01-01, 11:34 am |
| im totally hungover trying to get ready for some reading...sorry for the confusion.
cert cities article | |
| vincentnl 2003-01-01, 1:16 pm |
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Originally posted by everetjo
im totally hungover trying to get ready for some reading...sorry for the confusion.
cert cities article
Everetjo,
Your link just gives a whole lot of xx's to the website. Mike Meyer's passport book was an entertaining read and it too was not the only thing I used in my preparation for my last 710-210 exam which I still failed in my second attempt.
The fact that you already have an A+ certification to your belt already helps. My only advice for passing the 210 exam is some hand to hand practice, the resources or time I myself am not prepared to give.
Vinnie. | |
| luisjo 2003-01-01, 3:21 pm |
| If your preparing for the mcse or mcsa tracks, read the mspress books about the exams to get the technical knoledge,and read the osborne syngres mcgrahill books, you can find them in amazon at these web site, these series of books give you the skills to pass the mcse and mcsa exams, and practice on transcender test, i think is a big investement but it will give you the skills necesary to learn for the actual hands on the job, and to learn.
you can start by buying these book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books
these one help me pass my 70-210 exam.
i use these series for microsoft certs, if your planing on comptia use sybex and the xxxxxxxx bible ether a+, server+, network+, inet+, linux+ bible. | |
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| I'm taking mine on the 10th! Best of luck to you! | |
| drhixson 2003-01-01, 6:12 pm |
| thanks, i am down to about 14 hours, running through all the self tests and such. I think im ready... if you dont hear from me tomorrow that means im sitting with my head in the oven....lol | |
| everetjo 2003-01-01, 6:12 pm |
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My only advice for passing the 210 exam is some hand to hand practice, the resources or time I myself am not prepared to give.
i work on a 2k network right now, and plan on going through the MOC labs.
what about the rediness review? how accurate is it? | |
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| The MOC materials are good but, don't cover all the variables that will probably be covered on the test. I would reccomend using the Transcender practice exams as well as any hands on experience or simulation you can muster. I went out and purchased a used Proliant 1600 just so I could install Advanced Server and practice. | |
| drhixson 2003-01-01, 6:24 pm |
| I agree with Jayb, I have the following lab:
3 Compaq DL320 Servers
1 IBM e-Server
4 Compaq Deskpro desktops
1 WAP
1 Ethernet Switch
1 Baystack MAU
1 Cisco 4000 router
2 APC 400 UPS's
Having a lab makes it 100% better. | |
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| I second that. When PRESSED for time, forget the study materials and hit the test prep. I actually used an old transcender Procert. Read the explanations and understand - only hit the ref mat when stuck. Good luck!
My notes from the 70-210 MSPress mat runs into about 40 pages. I calculated the 70-215 mat is about the same. Should be hitting 215 soon, after I've recovered from the 'strain' of doing 210. I estimate 2 weeks of study and 1 week of test prep (meaning an investment in Trans' Servercert).
I recommend using VMWare to simulate a working network. They have a full working 30 day evaluation version. | |
| drhixson 2003-01-02, 9:25 am |
| I passed! I think I was worring myself for nothing, the exam really was not that hard...
but hey, I Passed!!!
On to 70-215.... | |
| everetjo 2003-01-02, 9:38 am |
| congrats drhixson!!
im scheduled for the 18th. that should give me enough time to go through my labs and do some more transcenders..
any idea of what a confident score on the transcenders would be? | |
| jayb1 2003-01-02, 10:17 am |
| Great Job drhixon!!
As for the Transcender question, I have heard that the Transcenders can actually be more difficult than the tests. The key is the be able to pass the all transcender exam variations (A,B,C,) especially the CAT exam which simulates the new "adaptive" exams MS is using. Also as mentioned before, read the explanations for each of the transcender questions you get wrong! They are worded very well, amd will help you understand where you need to brush up.
On a different note, I just read an article that projects a pretty good future job demand for IT professionals in all fields (close to 100% growth by 2010!) In fact, the only sector expected to grow faster is healthcare! | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by drhixson
I passed! I think I was worring myself for nothing, the exam really was not that hard...
but hey, I Passed!!!
On to 70-215....
Congratulations man wish you luck
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| Congratulations drhixson!
Ok, let's push on to 215. They say it's easier than 210. The local prometric guy said most candidates go for the 215 first before the 210. | |
| drhixson 2003-01-02, 10:46 pm |
| Sounds good Kuek. When are you planning on taking 215?
Perhaps we can scale the MS mountain together...lol | |
| hscott63 2003-01-02, 10:53 pm |
| The 70-210 has 61 questions now and no more scores just pass/failed on computer screen with a printout. I failed it the first time I will take it again this month. | |
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Sounds good Kuek. When are you planning on taking 215?
drhixson
I should be ready in about 2-3 weeks from now. Good Luck!
hscott63 - You can do it! You just have to hit the test preps real hard. Good Luck! | |
| vincentnl 2003-01-02, 11:56 pm |
| That pass/fail thing sucks.
Even more need to worry now.
Drhisxon,
You deserved to pass with all that material you have.
Don't quote me, I am just studying the pro's right now.
Vinnie | |
| drhixson 2003-01-03, 6:47 am |
| Sounds good Keuk. I was thinking about trying it next Friday. I have been studying it along woth Pro. Odd thing is you really have to know server and pro to take the 210 exam.... | |
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| drhixson, all the best on the day! I'll try to keep up.
Hey, check out robertmiller, he completed his mcse cert exams in 18 days if I read his website mcse transcript right. | |
| drhixson 2003-01-03, 10:14 am |
| Kuek....
I am sure I am just itching for trouble, but I just paid my voucher for 70-215 on Wednesday of next week. Wanta join me?...lol Yea I think its funny now but ask me on Tuesday night...lol
Kuek, whats your email address? Or email me at dennishixson@sbcglobal.net | |
| everetjo 2003-01-03, 11:25 am |
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originally posted by drhixson "Odd thing is you really have to know server and pro to take the 210 exam...."
how comfortable with server do you have to be? | |
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| drhixon...
You probably made the right move scheduling 215 so soon after 210. The material will be fresh in your mind, and you can continue on your passing momentum!!
Best of luck once again!!
I have 210 next Friday. I'm worried about passing not so much because of the cost to retake, but rather because of how my wife might react if I fail!! | |
| drhixson 2003-01-03, 2:25 pm |
| evertjo, I am not saying you will know all you need to know for 215, but on 210 you have to know NTFS permissions, RIS, Sysprep, etc. Router configs (limited), IP, RRAS, VPN, EAP, and a couple other things.
From everyone that I hear, they say 210 is the hardest of the exams... I hope that is true since I am kinda pushing myself on the MCSA\MCSE track. I am shooting for 1 exam per week. Although at that rate my brain will be jello...lol
My best advise is to be confortable with the systems. I cant stress enough having a small lab. I work on my lab and on-the-job experience 7 days a week nonstop.
My best advise, just "play with the systems", thats what I do.
Best of luck to you | |
| drhixson 2003-01-03, 2:29 pm |
| Jayb------ You will do fine. I will have to say this though, but I am sure allot of you out there may disagree with me.... A good study book or package costs a hundred dollars or so. Sometimes the money can be better invested in taking the test. Not explictly to pass\fail the exam, but to get a general idea of the test, how the test flows, the general wording of the questions, etc. Sometimes that can be more helpful than the best books or Trancenders. But there is a flip side to every senerio..
Just my 2 cents... | |
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| everetjo...
You should be almoast as proficient with server as you are with pro. The thing to remember is that there isn't a 1 to 1 correlation between the Microsoft Oficial Cirreculum (MOC) ant each test. For example course #2152 is called "Implementing MS Windows 2000 Professional and Server." One course, but both OS's are covered. Also, I have heard that there are quite a few questions on RIS, which isn't covered very well at all in the aformentioned class. I took all four classes for MCSA and then decided when I would take the test. Each test could contain pieces from all 4 Microsoft courses. This is why using exam prep tools can be better because they mimic the actual exam. | |
| everetjo 2003-01-03, 3:05 pm |
| thanks for the help..
ill start incorporating more server info into my studies.
going through the 70-210 transcender i felt comfortable, but im sure that more information couldnt' hurt. i also have the 2k resource kit for both pro and server. i still have about two weeks to go through labs that im weak on. | |
| foxmedia 2003-01-03, 4:03 pm |
| [QUOTE]Originally posted by drhixson
[B] on 210 you have to know NTFS permissions, RIS, Sysprep, etc. Router configs (limited), IP, RRAS, VPN, EAP, and a couple other things.
What is needed to know about routers on 210? Wasn't aware of this. I cannot find any info on the need to know about routers in reference to being tested on the 210? Please respond how much knowledge (don't want to put an enormous amount of study if little is needed) ...but don't want to be caught by surprise.
Thank you.
fox | |
| drhixson 2003-01-03, 4:14 pm |
| Foxmedia, as far as routers, I meant IP addresses assigned to the router for routed networks - Gateways....
Sorry if I worried you... | |
| foxmedia 2003-01-03, 4:23 pm |
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Originally posted by drhixson
Foxmedia, as far as routers, I meant IP addresses assigned to the router for routed networks - Gateways....
Sorry if I worried you...
Nah...no worry. I am comfortable with all IP, subnet, gateways etc... I have 2 or three study guides by freak that are really good and feel I have a grasp on IP, TCP/IP etc...
Thanks for responding back. I'm going to give 210 and 215 a try this month. Nearly there on confidence level. Just need to keep going with hands on labs right now. Again, thanks.
fox | |
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| Hi drhixson
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I am sure I am just itching for trouble, but I just paid my voucher for 70-215 on Wednesday of next week. Wanta join me?...lol Yea I think its funny now but ask me on Tuesday night...lol
Very tempted to do just that. I'm feeling like shark's bait right now. You just keep the momemtum going. I'm right behind. LOL
Kuek | |
| hscott63 2003-01-03, 9:49 pm |
| The test I failed had group nesting on it so you have some knowledge of 70-215 to pass it. | |
| drhixson 2003-01-04, 12:06 pm |
| Does anyone know how long it takes for MS to email you the pw to get into the MCP secured site? | |
| everetjo 2003-01-04, 1:03 pm |
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The test I failed had group nesting on it so you have some knowledge of 70-215 to pass it.
i had no knowledge of nesting being on the exam. were there other areas of informaiton that weren't defined on the M$ site? | |
| hscott63 2003-01-04, 5:32 pm |
| The exam that I took had global group type of question on it. | |
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Originally posted by drhixson
Does anyone know how long it takes for MS to email you the pw to get into the MCP secured site?
As far as I know all you need is your MCP ID to log on to the secured web site. | |
| vincentnl 2003-01-05, 3:05 pm |
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Originally posted by drhixson
evertjo, I am not saying you will know all you need to know for 215, but on 210 you have to know NTFS permissions, RIS, Sysprep, etc. Router configs (limited), IP, RRAS, VPN, EAP, and a couple other things.
From everyone that I hear, they say 210 is the hardest of the exams... I hope that is true since I am kinda pushing myself on the MCSA\MCSE track. I am shooting for 1 exam per week. Although at that rate my brain will be jello...lol
My best advise is to be confortable with the systems. I cant stress enough having a small lab. I work on my lab and on-the-job experience 7 days a week nonstop.
My best advise, just "play with the systems", thats what I do.
Best of luck to you
Before Microsoft brought in its pass/ fail thing I found myself with a better grade at the 210 than I did at the 215 level both of which I took on the same day without regrets.
Don't laugh, but I failed both, LOL!!! | |
| mrfixit 2003-01-05, 3:13 pm |
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Originally posted by Louai
As far as I know all you need is your MCP ID to log on to the secured web site.
Right. MCP ID# and create a password. (Of course, I have to admit it has been a long time since I logged on. ) | |
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| drhixon...
are you made aware of your pass/faill status immediately upon completion of the exam? | |
| drhixson 2003-01-05, 6:13 pm |
| Jay, yes, I was. Just a simple Congrat's you passed or something like that. Why do you ask? | |
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| drhixon...
No not yet. I was just wondering if they made you wait for an email or something like that. The suspense would kill me!!! Also check out this link and download the CramSession PDF's. The site is in Thai, but the links are in english about half way down the page. These are great, and aren't braindumps like the old TroyTechs.
http://www.thaifast.com/ | |
| babu75 2003-01-05, 9:05 pm |
| wish you all the best guys!!!!
let us know. just started on 210&215 | |
| hscott63 2003-01-06, 12:28 pm |
| You will know if you passed or failed before you get out the chair its on the computer screen. | |
| jayb1 2003-01-06, 12:45 pm |
| Thanks for the info!! | |
| jayb1 2003-01-10, 11:12 am |
| All...
I took 70-210 today and........PASSED!!!
Onward and upward!!!
Thanks to all of you for your advice and experience. | |
| Louai 2003-01-10, 12:46 pm |
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Originally posted by jayb1
All...
I took 70-210 today and........PASSED!!!
Onward and upward!!!
Thanks to all of you for your advice and experience.
Congrats man, I am planning mine on the 13th of next month so wish me luck.
Thanks | |
| foxmedia 2003-01-10, 2:25 pm |
| jayb1,
Congratulations. It's always encouraging to hear this type of news especially for those of us yet to take the test. Hope to have mine completed by the end of the month.
Good job! | |
| drhixson 2003-01-10, 2:26 pm |
| Hey all, just wanted to let you know I passed 218 today!! I'm a MCSA! | |
| foxmedia 2003-01-10, 2:28 pm |
| Congratulations. A milestone accomplished. I shall join you one day soon this year. Job well done. | |
| everetjo 2003-01-10, 2:30 pm |
| jayb1 congrats..
im taking mine next saturday. | |
| everetjo 2003-01-10, 3:02 pm |
| quote:
jayb1 congrats..
quoting myself...let's just hope next saturday i get myself together
drhixson..again..fantastic!! | |
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| Just curious..
When do you get your MCP information from Microsoft? I received a printout from the testing center that said I passed, but thats it. |
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