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| oldsaltdoggie 2002-10-21, 5:48 pm |
| I Failed the 210 2x today ! O well may be the insurance co. will hear me this time when I tell them what school I want to go to!! I thought I did alright on the first time around. But I could have missed by who knows 10 points Pass/Fail sucks ! | |
| Deja-vue 2002-10-21, 6:49 pm |
| Don't let it get to you.
Just one Reason to study harder.
It takes more guts to admit that you failed, then to post that you passed. My Respect!
Hope you will get back to the Books and answer some of Spid's QOD, get some Hands on and back to the Test in no Time.
Good luck the next time.
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| ruscorp 2002-10-21, 7:39 pm |
| Yes, the pass/fail sucks monkey a$$. However work on where you know that you are weak. You have already taste this test 2x, you should know what they will throw at you next time. Good luck! | |
| tweetgirl 2002-10-21, 8:10 pm |
| Please do not give up. You can do it. Just focus on your weakness but do not give. | |
| namrak 2002-10-22, 12:50 am |
| Sorry about your bad news oldsaltdoggie. Focus on the topics you feel need brushing up and give it another shot. I definitely feel for you as none of us test takers like getting money shots to the wallet for retakes.
I agree with Deja. It tough to admit you failed a test and this post serves a notice to those who believe certification tests are a gimmie, which they are not. Best of luck on your next attempt! | |
| thecomeons 2002-10-25, 3:09 am |
| salty,
i would suggest finishing the a+ first, unless you REALLY need to get 210 under your belt.
how where you doing in the practise exams, salty? | |
| enforcer 2002-10-25, 6:04 am |
| ok so far we have
Pass/Fail
ruscorp
monica lewinsky
Bill Clinton
anything/anyone else that sucks? | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 9:54 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
ok so far we have
Pass/Fail
ruscorp
monica lewinsky
Bill Clinton
anything/anyone else that sucks?
Is that an insult? | |
| freak 2002-10-25, 10:23 am |
| no, silly, it is not an insult, but it *is* in your sig file 
Salty, try and remember which questions troubled you during the test, then find out what subject they were on. Review those chapters, take a couple of practice tests and make sure that those subjects are not troublesome anymore.
Email me at dave@mcsefreak.com mentioning this thread and I will send you a free copy of 70-210 for Freaks! to encourage you to continue with this adventure
Let us know how we can help! | |
| enforcer 2002-10-25, 10:26 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Is that an insult?
No! 
just putting together a list of people/things that have had said about them that they suck
Pass/fail from oldsaltdoggie and ruscorp
monica lewinsky from the court case etc
bill clinton by most of america
Ruscorp by er well ehmmm ruscorp
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| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 10:35 am |
| This sucks, I want a free study guide too.
Uhm, I just failed ahhh, 70-235. Yea, I'm really bummed out. | |
| enforcer 2002-10-25, 10:36 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
Email me at dave@mcsefreak.com mentioning this thread and I will send you a free copy of 70-210 for Freaks! to encourage you to continue with this adventure
Freaks in a generous this morning, daren't ask why | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 10:56 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
Freaks in a generous this morning, daren't ask why
Perhaps another plunder? | |
| freak 2002-10-25, 11:39 am |
| I just like to help out when I can. I admire someone who displays the dedication and fortitude that the original poster did... | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 12:46 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
I just like to help out when I can. I admire someone who displays the dedication and fortitude that the original poster did...
I see you just came out with a Linux+ guide freak. When I make enough from eBay auctions I'll defiantly buy it. | |
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| actually, I only published it. Mr Linux Guy, aka Randy, wrote it. I used it myself 2 days ago. It has a bitchin' vi editor tutorial in it that became wicked handy in a pinch | |
| Pavlov 2002-10-25, 2:09 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
wicked handy in a pinch
Spoken like a true New Englander | |
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| LOL or a true Celt! the work "wicked" is used in the same sense all over Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Cornwall -- and I live in those places before I ever set foot in New England. I am just lucky that New Englanders also use it in the same sense | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 2:44 pm |
| I'm guessing Lorient is in New England? | |
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| ruscorp 2002-10-25, 8:01 pm |
| I just got back from a visit to New Hampshire and notice many people using the term "wicked". What the hell does that mean? I guess it's the equivalent to my New York "How you doin'?" | |
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I'm sorry, I'm going to need that word used in a couple more sentences before I can fully understand it's purpose.
Why, you wicked slow, or something? | |
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| oldsaltdoggie 2002-10-26, 11:42 pm |
| Just checked out who on line, and you (Freak) musta went to bed already! O well I'll see you all tommrow | |
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| Sorry I missed ya. I sent you an email with the study guide attached in pdf format.
Let me know if I can help! | |
| oldsaltdoggie 2002-10-27, 12:48 pm |
| Thanks Freak, and I I Cap'n I'll be call'in
Freak you ever use VM Ware. I only have one PC and was told this might help me out in that dept. | |
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| you're very welcome
As for VMWare, yup I have used it. The only issue is that you'd better have a fast box since you will be running two shells at the same time... | |
| drdirt 2002-10-27, 5:06 pm |
| VMware - is sooo cool on my AMD 1.6G
Is VMware multi thread? I am putting some relics together, if I find enough matching Pro PII- 500s it will be a quad.
That would be wicked shell mashing... | |
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| LOL Check out Task Manager and you will see if it is mutlithreaded or not... | |
| enforcer 2002-10-28, 3:54 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
so I am an adopted son of sorts
who is sorts and why did he have to adopt you? | |
| enforcer 2002-10-28, 3:57 am |
| Ruscorp : looks like i've got someone else to add to my sucks list. | |
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Originally posted by enforcer
who is sorts and why did he have to adopt you?
Why, isn't that obvious? He had to because nobody else would
By the way, you MCP -- that's male chauvinist pig, by the way -- who said sorts was a "he"? | |
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Originally posted by oldsaltdoggie
I Failed the 210 2x today ! O well may be the insurance co. will hear me this time when I tell them what school I want to go to!! I thought I did alright on the first time around. But I could have missed by who knows 10 points Pass/Fail sucks !
don`t give up.... in the 2nd attempts you must pass this one!!! | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-28, 10:55 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
Ruscorp : looks like i've got someone else to add to my sucks list.
I throw you in jail. Muhahhaha! | |
| msuria 2002-10-28, 11:27 am |
| Don't worry about it. If you have enough determination to Pass, you will. I had to take 210 2 times before I passed it. I am dealing with the same hard luck for 215 now. I have taken it 2 times already. I know how you feel, beleive me, but I am determined to get my MCSE. It makes me even more determined once I fail an exam. However, the PASS/FAIL thing is just a NIGHTMARE! I hate it with a passion. It is unfair to do that to test takers. It is so depressing to me, but I am using that anger to pass the next exam. I just want to see PASSED on that last screen. Best of luck to you. | |
| jeramiel00 2002-10-28, 2:12 pm |
| how much does it cost to take the 210???? | |
| msuria 2002-10-28, 2:13 pm |
| $125 or $135, I forgot which. | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-28, 2:23 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by msuria
$125 or $135, I forgot which.
$125 USD | |
| drdirt 2002-10-28, 4:09 pm |
| maybe I am pushing my luck here, but I'd like the opinion, again, of someone who knows better...
I got dis here MCSE NT and no electives expire until June 2004.
I'm thinking instead of launching into the 70-210/215/216 and "upgrading" my processor right away -
I would try on the SQL 2000 and 215/216 and get me the MCDBA. Then the way I read the requirements, I could do the MCSE2000 with only 3 more tests. (maybe not easy ones, but 3 is not alot more after the NT and MCDBA).
Is the DBA valued?
Is this course much harder than specializing?
Should I just move into a cardboard box and never have to think about certifications again?
drdirt | |
| msuria 2002-10-28, 4:15 pm |
| Personally,
I think that the exams and certifications are overrated!!!! If I had to do it all over again, I would NEVER give my money to Micro$oft for courses and exams. It is just a way for Micro$oft to make money, and that is ALL! I have to get my MCSE just to prove something to myself, but I think that all of the HYPE about these exams is misguided. It is like a cult to be completely honest. I have a bachelor's in EET and that is what has gotten me where I am. Not the fact that I am a MCP. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY on another cert!!
My personal advise..... | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-28, 5:52 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by msuria
Personally,
I think that the exams and certifications are overrated!!!! If I had to do it all over again, I would NEVER give my money to Micro$oft for courses and exams. It is just a way for Micro$oft to make money, and that is ALL! I have to get my MCSE just to prove something to myself, but I think that all of the HYPE about these exams is misguided. It is like a cult to be completely honest. I have a bachelor's in EET and that is what has gotten me where I am. Not the fact that I am a MCP. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY on another cert!!
My personal advise.....
Yuck, sounds personal. | |
| enforcer 2002-10-28, 6:03 pm |
| my advice : don't wear a moustache that looks like a hairy caterpillar, it makes eating bacon sandwiches very difficult, you would need to SUCK the crumbs out of said hairy caterpillar | |
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| LOL THanks for a great laugh! | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-28, 6:07 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
my advice : don't wear a moustache that looks like a hairy caterpillar, it makes eating bacon sandwiches very difficult, you would need to SUCK the crumbs out of said hairy caterpillar
enforcer: I hope that wasn't another one of your personal attacks on me. | |
| denis_baribeau 2002-10-28, 6:44 pm |
| Wearing that outfit could be very dangerous to your health .
Don't go to far on holloween ,stay close to your bunker.
And wipe that grin off your face ,or is it there permanently I forgot. | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-28, 7:00 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by denis_baribeau
Wearing that outfit could be very dangerous to your health .
Don't go to far on holloween ,stay close to your bunker.
And wipe that grin off your face ,or is it there permanently I forgot.
Nah, I'm one of his doubles. | |
| oldsaltdoggie 2002-10-28, 7:13 pm |
| LOL I worked witha guy who could have been one of his doubles at the time of "Desert Storm" . Boy did he get razed! | |
| drdirt 2002-10-28, 8:54 pm |
| So - which thread do us noobs ask a serious question of the venerable???
I'll get out of your discussion y'all, if you could just direct me...
All this talk about Sodom Whose-Seen(?) has me wondering if I got the wrong thread?!?
the dirtdoc | |
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| but we digress...
the DBA is still a cert in demand today, at least in the market I am in. The MCSE 2K is also still in demand in my market, but clearly not in others. I think that it would be a good idea for you to ask around and get a feel for what is in demand in your area. In mine, Cisco and LInux skills are in high demand if you can add them to a proven MS background. Needless to say, that is what I have been focusing on, and it landed me my current job... | |
| drdirt 2002-10-28, 9:45 pm |
| Sorry to be the killjoy -
Linux is about unheard of in my locale. There is a linux based web co in town. Downsized last year from about 100 to 3.
I think I've got the skinny on the local market. Won't bore you with details, but you got a little choice in databases.
So would you call the MCDBA an indication that you can learn to be a MS SQueeL DBA???
I think in the longrun I want alot better coding skills - needed for scripting sure, but may give me better employment without having to take on the headaches of management.
BTDT.
Any suggestions on database skills?
Any on coding skills?
dirtmonger | |
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| I still think that the DBA is a good cert to have, yes, and you can always go for an MCSD afterwards if it tickles your fancy | |
| drdirt 2002-10-28, 10:14 pm |
| Freeeeky!
I'm not sure I want to try one that isn't in the multi-line list in your signature!
If you don't have it, I'll have to ask Ruscorp or Enforcer for help...
DirtDoc | |
| freak 2002-10-28, 10:26 pm |
| LOL Believe me, MCSD will never be in my sig file. I am not smart enough... but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in yours Heck, I don't have DBA in my sig file either! | |
| drdirt 2002-10-28, 11:27 pm |
| Freak,
Didn't you say you taught at college level once?
You know how students get their panties in a wad about stuff before they even try it?
Now think about when you first were tried IP subnetting? Seemed confusing and intractible?
Now how about subnetting? Isn't it pretty straight forward? You don't even have to remember much, just the basic rules/pattern and you work it out when you need to?
If learning were really only a matter of intelligence, most politicians would never have learned to walk. | |
| freak 2002-10-28, 11:30 pm |
| I am dyslexic. Coding to me is a nightmare. I just don't have it, but at the same time I made my peace with it because I did try. that's all I can expect from myself
As for subnetting, I always rocked from day one -- yeah, right | |
| OmnipotentOne 2002-10-29, 12:20 am |
| Subnetting is a breeze, it’s all those damn words in exams that throw me off.
*note* I had to spell check breeze before posting this, and it was indeed spelt wrong *note* | |
| drdirt 2002-10-29, 12:31 am |
| So Freak, (I really like writing that...)
Maybe coding isn't worth the effort to you. But, you faced the same challenge to subnet.
So don't mystify the coders like they are part Merlin part Lao Tsu.
(Warning- below lies Pedantic Speach #316)
Doing anything well ain't easy. It is more art than effort, takes more finesse then muscle.
Notice my noob questions in the forums here. I am paying some dues in networking. But I've payed in a couple other areas along the way.
Its all in enduring until it comes naturally.
Shoot, back in the day, I did numeric models of partial differential equations in fortran. On a card reader! We had to do memory overlays (manual virtual memory) on a mainframe cause it only had 256K ram and the OS didn't handle it! I remember that Univac 1180 -
I had no idea what a GUI was, or IP. I had an ARPANET mail account - but didn't know how the heck that worked. 'C' (not C++ yet) was this amazing tool we only heard the comp sci department talk about.
Most of us engineers/scientists then looked at network wonks with awe. "We" weren't computer guyz - we were just engineers who used a little fortran to do engineering... The wonks new all the secrets that kept the electrons moving......(obviously not electrical engineers)
It changed my outlook. The person who can run a project ontime and at-budget - or the mechanic who replaces my timing belt - or the office administrator that makes sure that the reports go out and the supplies don't run out--
And, given the interest and the time, we could probably all learn to do anything. My problem is I am too short on interest AND time!
( End Pedantic speach #316)
drdirt | |
| enforcer 2002-10-29, 3:20 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
enforcer: I hope that wasn't another one of your personal attacks on me.
do you have a moustache like that of your avatar. | |
| enforcer 2002-10-29, 3:35 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by drdirt
Freeeeky!
I'm not sure I want to try one that isn't in the multi-line list in your signature!
If you don't have it, I'll have to ask Ruscorp or Enforcer for help...
DirtDoc
hey don't drag us into helping, we're in the middle of a power struggle for world peace. | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-29, 9:53 am |
| Who just used Saddam's name in vein? | |
| freak 2002-10-29, 10:06 am |
| ... or would that be in vain? | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-29, 10:30 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
... or would that be in vain?
Saddam does not no englick well. He just no 7 bad words. Half of Erack canknot read or rite. | |
| jeramiel00 2002-10-29, 2:13 pm |
| you people are funny lol | |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Saddam does not no englick well. He just no 7 bad words. Half of Erack canknot read or rite.
you got to wonder about the other half... must be the half he persecuted because he felt more threatened by them... | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-29, 2:22 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
you got to wonder about the other half... must be the half he persecuted because he felt more threatened by them...
I gassed the uther fiddy percant. | |
| drdirt 2002-10-29, 2:48 pm |
| before the iran-iraq war, you guyz had the highest literacy in the region.
What happened to all your readers? | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-29, 3:05 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by drdirt
before the iran-iraq war, you guyz had the highest literacy in the region.
What happened to all your readers?
I kill them. | |
| drdirt 2002-10-29, 5:13 pm |
| and they still think you are saving them from the evil wishes of the UK and US! | |
| me? I dunno... 2002-10-29, 11:31 pm |
| Ruscorp, I like your outfit, it matches your cell.
Denis, your avatar is scaring me.
Salty, better luck next time around. btw, I know what it's like to have a schedule that doesn't always jive with what can be worked in. First things first, get the important points, the rest seem to fill themselves in as you go along, I'm just now filling in some of the blanks left from A+,210 and 215, and probably will continue to do so for some time. At first I was embarrassed about it, but now I'm getting to where I don't really care anymore, I know the pieces I don't have yet will come to me eventually. A sponge can only soak up so much water... | |
| sinc01 2002-10-30, 12:11 am |
| Stay Focused.
Don't give up. Finish the A+ first then start the 210. FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS what else can I say and you will succeed! A full blown LAB can't hurt either if you can build one or afford one.
Good Luck! | |
| drdirt 2002-10-30, 1:25 am |
| Sinc01,
I know what your saying is true, but it is hard to rush or focus when the job market is probably a year from recovering.
My mind sez focus, by body sez pace yourself.
But then, I am on the "older" side of the forum and probably the worlds oldest noobie.
The morning aches are still there when I gotta pull wire in the afternoon... | |
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| ruscorp 2002-10-30, 7:06 am |
| Saddam has left the building... | |
| oldsaltdoggie 2002-10-30, 8:32 am |
| GOOD | |
| enforcer 2002-10-31, 3:49 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Saddam has left the building...
as long as the building is still in one piece, that's alright. |
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