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Spid

2002-10-15, 8:22 am

Well, here's a short little question that hopefully no one has a problem with the answers or lack of answers listed.

Slinky accidently deleted the NTDetect.com from his Windows 2000 computer system and surprise surprise, his system won't start. ..(ok you can stop laughing now )

He thinks that he can boot from a DOS boot disk an replace the file by copying it from his Windows 2000 CD, but since the hard drive is formatted with NTFS he can not access it from a DOS boot disk. (And Nooooo, he does not have a third party solution like Wininternals NTFSDOS available, and he has no money to buy it, and no one he knows has it, and no one that has it wants to give it to him either, so there )

However, he does have a tape backup available.

What should poor old Slinky do to correct the problem as quickly as possible with the least amount of administrative effort? (Select the best choice).

A. Boot into Safe Mode and copy the missing file from the Windows 2000 CD.

B. Use the ERD to boot the computer and then copy the missing file from the ERD.

C. Restore from the tape backup.

D. Boot into the Recovery Console and copy the missing file from the Windows 2000 CD.

E. Re-install the Windows 2000 Operating system.

Good luck and see you tomorrow for the answer!
Slinky

2002-10-15, 8:26 am

Pretty sure its D.
denis_baribeau

2002-10-15, 8:54 am

I'll go for

C. Restore from the tape backup.

least amount of administrative effort?


enforcer

2002-10-15, 8:56 am

I'll go with D


although I could go for option F Slave HD into another PC and copy file over
tweetgirl

2002-10-15, 9:40 am

Answer is D.
Surender

2002-10-15, 10:09 am

D
NetChild1985

2002-10-15, 10:12 am

I'm going with "D" as well!
denis_baribeau

2002-10-15, 12:19 pm

I'm missing something in this picture.

He should get better friends.

and no one he knows has it, and no one that has it wants to give it to him either, so there

D does make more sense .

M$ wouldn't write a scenario that look like that. but could be a true life situation.
namrak

2002-10-15, 12:38 pm

Although restoring from a tape backup would make sense, but I think the "..correct the problem as quickly as possible .." would eliminate the restore solution.

I'll go with answer (D) as well.
twister166

2002-10-15, 2:21 pm

I like to be different again... I will probably boot from the Win2k Srv CD and do a repair...

Has anyone really tried D? I mean I though to any kind of the NTFS boot will require NTdetect.com. Will RC boot without NTdetect? Someone is got a lab to try it?

If not I am installing a Win2k SBS tonight, I might just try it...
Spid

2002-10-15, 2:37 pm

quote:
Originally posted by twister166
I like to be different again... I will probably boot from the Win2k Srv CD and do a repair...

Has anyone really tried D? I mean I though to any kind of the NTFS boot will require NTdetect.com. Will RC boot without NTdetect? Someone is got a lab to try it?

If not I am installing a Win2k SBS tonight, I might just try it...



Right, so continue with you line of thinking about booting from the Win2K CD.

Without blatantly giving away the answer...Yes, I have done this. Remember what you can use to boot your system up with (bypassing the HD entirely). You do not have to have the Recovery Console installed to access it. There are two other ways
twister166

2002-10-15, 5:27 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Spid
Right, so continue with you line of thinking about booting from the Win2K CD.

Without blatantly giving away the answer...Yes, I have done this. Remember what you can use to boot your system up with (bypassing the HD entirely). You do not have to have the Recovery Console installed to access it. There are two other ways

Where was my head... this happends when I am out of COFFEE!!!

Never Mine... D...
Tronn

2002-10-15, 6:55 pm

quote:
Originally posted by twister166
I like to be different again... I will probably boot from the Win2k Srv CD and do a repair...

Has anyone really tried D? I mean I though to any kind of the NTFS boot will require NTdetect.com. Will RC boot without NTdetect? Someone is got a lab to try it?

If not I am installing a Win2k SBS tonight, I might just try it...



I had to do the 'D' method when I messed up an arc path in boot.ini. I copied the boot.ini from my other PC to a floppy and, using the recovery console, replaced the cocked up file. hehe

TRONN
Deja-vue

2002-10-15, 10:37 pm

I am going with Answer B.

Using the ERD that Slinky "hopefully" made, after he installed Windows and loaded all his Software.

Or, he could just call me and i send him a Winternals recovery CD. Friend of mine, that he is.
Slinky

2002-10-15, 10:48 pm

ERD what is that? I can't afford one of those.
Slinky

2002-10-15, 10:53 pm

quote:
Originally posted by twister166
I like to be different again... I will probably boot from the Win2k Srv CD and do a repair...

Has anyone really tried D? I mean I though to any kind of the NTFS boot will require NTdetect.com. Will RC boot without NTdetect? Someone is got a lab to try it?

If not I am installing a Win2k SBS tonight, I might just try it...



Sure will. Just like Spid indirectly said.
hazz_bin

2002-10-16, 3:20 am

I'll go with D as well. RC will work, as there is a separate copy of NTDetect in the cmdcons directory so the PC will boot.
Spid

2002-10-16, 7:42 am

quote:
Originally posted by Spid
Well, here's a short little question that hopefully no one has a problem with the answers or lack of answers listed.

Slinky accidently deleted the NTDetect.com from his Windows 2000 computer system and surprise surprise, his system won't start. ..(ok you can stop laughing now )

He thinks that he can boot from a DOS boot disk an replace the file by copying it from his Windows 2000 CD, but since the hard drive is formatted with NTFS he can not access it from a DOS boot disk. (And Nooooo, he does not have a third party solution like Wininternals NTFSDOS available, and he has no money to buy it, and no one he knows has it, and no one that has it wants to give it to him either, so there )

However, he does have a tape backup available.

What should poor old Slinky do to correct the problem as quickly as possible with the least amount of administrative effort? (Select the best choice).

A. Boot into Safe Mode and copy the missing file from the Windows 2000 CD.

B. Use the ERD to boot the computer and then copy the missing file from the ERD.

C. Restore from the tape backup.

D. Boot into the Recovery Console and copy the missing file from the Windows 2000 CD.

E. Re-install the Windows 2000 Operating system.

Good luck and see you tomorrow for the answer!



And the answer is.....D

Boot from the Windows CD-Rom or from the startup floppy disks and then use the Recovery Console to copy the missing file from the CD to the Hard drive.

(A) is wrong because you won't be able to boot the system into Safe Mode with NTDetect.com missing.

(B) is incorrect because the ERD is not a bootable disk. It does not contain system files so you can't bootup from it or copy the missing file from it.

(C) is incorrect because even though this is a possible solution you do not need to restore the entire OS just to recover this one particular file. Also, this is not the quickest solution of the ones offered.

(E) is wrong as well basically for the same reasoning as (C).

Another viable solution was offered by enforcer, where if you had an extra system with Windows 2000 installed, you could slave the HD from your system into the other working system and copy the NTDetect.com file over.

And yes, Slinky should get some new friends (like the ones he has made here at examnotes, we would definitely help him out right away! )

Thanks for being a good sport with this question Slinky
enforcer

2002-10-16, 8:16 am

quote:
Originally posted by Spid


Another viable solution was offered by enforcer, where if you had an extra system with Windows 2000 installed, you could slave the HD from your system into the other working system and copy the NTDetect.com file over.



I always try to look for something different
denis_baribeau

2002-10-16, 10:02 am

Well I deleted NTDETECT.COM fron NTFS pc yesterday,couldn't boot from CD(CD not bootable),Startup disk fail to load on #3 disk,so and endded up having to create an NTFSDOS boot disk from another pc with NTLDR,NTDETECT.COM and created BOOT.INI files .

Work like a charm and One thing to be aware is after it boot it give 2 choice of OS and both where the same name but it default to the second one and you hava to select the first one.
( Slinky )if you need the disk I'll make copy and give it to you.

MS Q254119 ,This was a great experience so say the least.


enforcer

2002-10-16, 10:52 am

quote:
Originally posted by denis_baribeau
Well I deleted NTDETECT.COM fron NTFS pc yesterday,couldn't boot from CD(CD not bootable),Startup disk fail to load on #3 disk,so and endded up having to create an NTFSDOS boot disk from another pc with NTLDR,NTDETECT.COM and created BOOT.INI files .

Work like a charm and One thing to be aware is after it boot it give 2 choice of OS and both where the same name but it default to the second one and you hava to select the first one.
( Slinky )if you need the disk I'll make copy and give it to you.

MS Q254119 ,This was a great experience so say the least.






should have gone for Enforcer's option F
denis_baribeau

2002-10-16, 12:29 pm

I didn't mention that one pc is laptop fat32 and the desktop pc was the ntfs one with the deleted NTDETECT.COM file ,F was not an option for me ,In fact I had very few option .

I have more now .
enforcer

2002-10-17, 4:09 am

Ok, option G Use sledgehammer
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