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| wbafrank 2002-01-19, 8:45 pm |
|  As there is nearly a question of the day in every forum I thought I would add one here:
Q1. You have a new Pentium III computer with 2 blank hard disks, a 40x CD-ROM drive, an AGP display adapter, and a Fast Ethernet network adaptor. All hardware is on the HCL. You want to achieve the following results:
1. Install W2K Professional on the computer.
2. Minimize the time required to install W2K Professional.
3. Choose a file system to enable maximum security of data on the computer.
4. Have your computer join your domain.
Your proposed solution is to start the computer, access the BIOS and set the the computer to boot from the CD-ROM drive. You save the changes and restart the computer. When SETUP runs, complete the necessary tasks and specify the NTFS partition type. After restarting the computer again, restore the original boot disk configuration in the BIOS. When prompted, specify the appropriate domain name.
Which results does your proposed solution provide? (Choose all that apply)
A. Windows 2000 Professional is installed on the computer.
B. The time required to install Windows 2000 Professional is minimized.
C. The specified file system enables maximum security of data on the computer.
D. The computer joins your domain. | |
| anglin_fool 2002-01-19, 10:44 pm |
| hey wbafrank,
I would have to say A, C, and D. Wouldn't an unattended install be faster? (my guess, I'm new at this)
anglin_fool A+ | |
| chodan 2002-01-19, 11:17 pm |
| I am just curious why this is titled "Sun Professional Question of the Day"
was that a mis-type?
BTW it looks like
A.
C.
and
D.
to me also by the way I read it. | |
| PotatoHead 2002-01-20, 12:21 am |
| I'm goin with all of them - ABCD | |
| Bannaman 2002-01-20, 6:55 am |
| errrrmmmmmm....hey people, everyone cool?? right i think all of them as well, because the hdds are blank and i assume no o/s's on it so booting from the cd is the best option i guess. Maybe the boot disks would have been an option. ABCD i think. Good format though with the choose all apply wbafrank, ps where u from in the uk.....
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| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 7:45 am |
| A. Yes
B. No. It would be faster to do a RIS, Sysprep, or unattend.
C. Yes
D. No. By default your workstation is joined to a workgroup. It doesn't prompt you to join a domain. You have to manually change the settings in the network config, or specify it in an answer file.
A&C are the only correct answers. | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-20, 9:58 am |
| A. w2k is installed
B. because there is no mention that the nic is pxe compliant.
C. ntfs partion | |
| Deja-vue 2002-01-20, 10:09 am |
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A.: Yes
B : Yes,Ris or unattend is not much faster,
only makes sense on multiple Installations.
C: Yes (NTFS)
D: No Domain is joined after prompting to do so,joins Workgroup by Default.
just my 10 cents.
Frank | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 10:28 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Clangashe
B. because there is no mention that the nic is pxe compliant.
Yes, but RIS can still be done with a RIS boot disk.
In reality though, SYSPREP is much faster. | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-20, 3:30 pm |
| the senario does not mention network boot disk.
therfore you work within those guide lines.
personally I would make a boot disk
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| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 4:00 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Clangashe
the senario does not mention network boot disk.
therfore you work within those guide lines.
personally I would make a boot disk
Part of the question asked for the minimal amout of time to install the OS.
Fact: RIS is an option to do an instal, as is an unattend or sysprep.
Fact: Ris, sysprep, and unattend are faster than a manual install.
Regardless of whether or not there is a RIS server, whether the PC has a PXE nic, or if you use boot disks, the answer is always the same.
A MANUAL INSTALL IS NOT THE FASTEST METHOD.
The scenario walked you through a step by step manual intall. It didn't even give you the option of a different install method. You had to already know that there are alternative methods available that are faster.
Just because the question didn't mention a RIS server, PXE nic cards, boot disks, unattend installs, or sysprep installs, doesn't invalidate them as install options. You have to be aware of these methods beforehand, and already know that a manual install is slower than all of them.
I guess your'e saying that B has to be correct because the question didn't offer Ris, unattend or sysprep as alternate methods, even though they are perfectly viable options.
Fight it all you want, but I can guarantee that I'm right on this one. Microsoft said so. | |
| Sh0tgun 2002-01-20, 4:06 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by chodan
I am just curious why this is titled "Sun Professional Question of the Day"
was that a mis-type?
Short for Sunday
I'll go with A and C, but this is an uneducated guess and I have severe doubts that I'm correct. | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 4:10 pm |
| It might help to understand the methodolgy of the question.
You were given a stated situation, and you were provided with an objective(s) to reach.
The question gave you a PROPOSED solution to the situation, and asked you if the PROPOSED solution met all the criteria.
The answer is no to objectives B&D.
Had their proposed solution been to:
Change the BIOS to boot from the CD ROM.
Create an winnt.sif file that specifies the necessary answers to the setup questions, and joins the computer to a domain.
Start the PC with the Setup disk in the CD rom, and the answer file on a floppy in the floppy dirve.
Save your settings, restart the PC and change the boot order to it's previous method.
Had this been offered, then A, B, C, and D would all be correct. | |
| wbafrank 2002-01-20, 5:09 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by wbafrank
As there is nearly a question of the day in every forum I thought I would add one here:
Q1. You have a new Pentium III computer with 2 blank hard disks, a 40x CD-ROM drive, an AGP display adapter, and a Fast Ethernet network adaptor. All hardware is on the HCL. You want to achieve the following results:
1. Install W2K Professional on the computer.
2. Minimize the time required to install W2K Professional.
3. Choose a file system to enable maximum security of data on the computer.
4. Have your computer join your domain.
Your proposed solution is to start the computer, access the BIOS and set the the computer to boot from the CD-ROM drive. You save the changes and restart the computer. When SETUP runs, complete the necessary tasks and specify the NTFS partition type. After restarting the computer again, restore the original boot disk configuration in the BIOS. When prompted, specify the appropriate domain name.
Which results does your proposed solution provide? (Choose all that apply)
A. Windows 2000 Professional is installed on the computer.
B. The time required to install Windows 2000 Professional is minimized.
C. The specified file system enables maximum security of data on the computer.
D. The computer joins your domain.
Correct Answers: A, B and C
A. Correct: The installation of Windows 2000 Professional is likely to succeed because it is being run on HCL-certified computer hardware.
B. Correct: By configuringthe BIOS to boot from the CD-ROM drive, the four Setup Disks are unnecessary. Starting Windows 2000 Professional installation from the CD-ROM drive instead of the the floppy drive reduces the installation time.
C. Correct: NTFS provides for local permissions at the folder and file levels. Local permissions secure the file system from both local and over-the-network access.
D. Incorrect: Before a computer can join a domain, you must create a computer object in a container of the Windows 2000 domain. You can accomplish this step during the installation process if you have access to a user account with the Add Workstation To Domain privilege in the domain or the privilege to create computer objects in a container of the domain. Alternatively, an administrator or a user in a Windows 2000 domain who has been granted the necessary privilege can add the computer object to the domain prior to running the Windows 2000 Professional installation. Nothing in the proposed solution suggests that one of these procedures was completed. | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 5:20 pm |
| hmmmmmmmmm.
Where did you pull this question from?
I got this exact same question on the test, and I got it right (as well as every other question).
Also for anyone who took the 2151, 2152 MOC courses, and got the MCSE readiness review CD, there was a VERY similar question.
Their answer was that the setup time was NOT minimized. | |
| wbafrank 2002-01-20, 5:28 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Joe Blacke
hmmmmmmmmm.
Where did you pull this question from?
I got this exact same question on the test, and I got it right (as well as every other question).
Also for anyone who took the 2151, 2152 MOC courses, and got the MCSE readiness review CD, there was a VERY similar question.
Their answer was that the setup time was NOT minimized.
Joe, there is a similiar question to this - keep your eyes open and you may spot it!! | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 5:43 pm |
| Okay........I guess. Haven't a clue what you implied.
I am just looking for a simle reasoning for your posted "correct" answers. It would help to know where you obtained the question, or whether you designed and wrote it yourself.
Not all the answers in dumps (yes, that includes troytech/trancender) are always correct. | |
| SuperCertMan 2002-01-20, 6:02 pm |
| I think it's D because it's specifying that you are joining the domain when prompted, as an administrator isn't it allowed for you to do that??
i don't think it's B because there are faster ways than this..
so what's the veridict??? WHATS THE FINAL ANSWER!!!!! | |
| wbafrank 2002-01-20, 6:56 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Joe Blacke
Okay........I guess. Haven't a clue what you implied.
I am just looking for a simle reasoning for your posted "correct" answers. It would help to know where you obtained the question, or whether you designed and wrote it yourself.
Not all the answers in dumps (yes, that includes troytech/trancender) are always correct.
I have one question where does it mention RIS?
As for your last comment well ........ | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-20, 7:03 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by wbafrank
I have one question where does it mention RIS?
I posted this earlier, but you must have missed it.
quote:
It might help to understand the methodolgy of the question.
You were given a stated situation, and you were provided with an objective(s) to reach.
The question gave you a PROPOSED solution to the situation, and asked you if the PROPOSED solution met all the criteria.
The answer is no to objectives B&D.
Had their proposed solution been to:
Change the BIOS to boot from the CD ROM.
Create an winnt.sif file that specifies the necessary answers to the setup questions, and joins the computer to a domain.
Start the PC with the Setup disk in the CD rom, and the answer file on a floppy in the floppy dirve.
Save your settings, restart the PC and change the boot order to it's previous method.
Had this been offered, then A, B, C, and D would all be correct.
I'll ask a 3rd time.
Where did you get this question? | |
| wbafrank 2002-01-20, 7:17 pm |
| The question was a scenario I was given whilst training for my Professional exam - we then had to find out what we could do using the information given us "hands-on" if you like.
Hopefully this clears this up and we can move on!! | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-21, 6:53 am |
| senario questions are broken up into to parts.
First is what would like to be done.
Second is how it is to be done.
with what your given in the senario you have to work with. you cannot bring anything else in.
the nic did not mention pxe compliant and the senario did not mention any form of boot disk. therefore network booting is ruled out. | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-21, 6:59 am |
| I liked it.
I was more than amazed how many people read more into the question than what was there.
waiting for the the next one
GOD I must be sick.
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| Joe Blacke 2002-01-21, 8:54 am |
| Firstly, I had this EXACT same question on the test. There is no doubt about it not being the same question at all. I got a 1000 on the test, so I know I got it right.
Now, if you had designed a question on your own, to help challenge people, then I have no problem with that. However, we would have to rely on you to be able to be 100% accurrate.
That is not what you did. You pulled a question out of some "training aid" (although you still refuse to divulge the actual source, which makes your answers suspect as it prevents anyone from double checking your answers).
There is a simple fact about "aids" like Troytech. They don't provide you with the full question. They summarize, and only provide you with the answer and not the other possible choices. They only give you enough information for you to be able to recognize the question and choose "their" answer(s).
No matter how you cut it, or try to justify your answer, it will not wash. Not here, and not on the test.
I'm amazed that people here can't see the difference in the questioning methods that are on the test. Yes, there are questions that you will get wrong if you "assume" or "read into it". This is a very simple question in that you need to decide if the PROPOSED solution meets your objectives. Because they provided you with their PROPOSED solution, they are forcing you to know ALTERNATE solutions to the problem. That is part of networking, deciding which method is the best. Clangashe is all wrapped up aroung the axle because there was no mention of a PXE NIC card. Buddy, you can't see the forest because of the trees.
If I asked you what is the fastest method to install Windows 2000, and you can't realize that if you can install from booting from a CD rom, then you can also install with the CD rom and an answer file, then you need some more studying. For your answer to be correct, there would have to be more detail in the question that would PREVENT you from choosing an ALTERNATE method of installation that meets the criteria.
Now, I'm not going to scold you about violating some stupid copyright by posting another person's or companies material. I couldn't care less. If your aim is to help people, then that is well and good.
You need to be damn sure that you get your facts straight beforehand, though.
In all though, you must realize that you are doing a disservice to everyone who reads this question, assuming they take your answer as truth. They will see this question on the test, and will get it wrong if they choose your "answers". I guarantee it.
I'll say it again. If you are going to post questions (prefferably not the actual questions from the test), make 100% sure you are right. | |
| wbafrank 2002-01-21, 9:10 am |
| Joe Blacke
Just for you:
Q. You have a new Pentium III computer with 2 blank hard disks, a 40x CD-ROM drive, an AGP display adapter, and a Fast Ethernet network adaptor. All hardware is on the HCL. You want to achieve the following results:
1. Install W2K Professional on the computer.
2. Minimize the time required to install W2K Professional.
3. Choose a file system to enable maximum security of data on the computer.
4. Have your computer join your domain.
Your proposed solution is to insert the Windows 2000 Professional installation CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive and start the computer from the Setup Boot Disk. When installation runs, complete the necessary tasks, insert the other Setup Disks when prompted, and specify the NTFS partition type. When prompted, specify the appropriate domain name.
Which results does your proposed solution provide? (Choose all that apply)
A. Windows 2000 Professional is installed on the computer.
B. The time required to install Windows 2000 Professional is minimized.
C. The specified file system enables maximum security of data on the computer.
D. The computer joins your domain.
Try Q1 on your system as is stated it will work. I told you where I got it from and I know I am 100% correct I done it!! | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-21, 9:24 am |
| The first question is the one from the test.
This second question was not on it, although there is ONE line missing from the first question. Maybe if you had the FULL question, it would make more sense to you.
I've already answered you question, and I've posed a question to you in a different thread. Me, and your client, are awaiting an answer. | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-22, 6:39 pm |
| Maybe if you got your nose out of braindumps and look to the real situation.
You might suprise yourself.
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| Joe Blacke 2002-01-22, 8:28 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Clangashe
Maybe if you got your nose out of braindumps and look to the real situation.
You might suprise yourself.
Hey fool, if you knew anything about me, you would know that I refuse to use dumps.
You would also know that I can still score 1000 on these tests without having to study the questions and answers beforehand.
It's called studying and real life application. Something foreign to you, I'm sure. It's why I know the different methods of installing the OS. I can also tell the difference in how long each type of install takes. That is why, if you perform a manual install, the setup time is NOT minimized.
If you think your smart enough, why don't you take a crack at my "real life question #2". Granted, you are probably used to having someone else do all your work for you, and all you need to do is memorize and recall upon demand.
If you received this question on the test, you would know why it is wrong. The question provided is slightly shortened from the actual test question. It is the shortest method to do a manual install, but it is not, nor will it ever be, the overall way to minimize the time to install an 2000. | |
| anglin_fool 2002-01-22, 8:58 pm |
| quote:
Hey fool, if you knew anything about me, you would know that I refuse to use dumps.
All hail King Joe Blacke!
you and your know it all attitude has turned me off to another informative forum.
thanks wbafrank, if I were to come around again, I would look for more of your posts! | |
| Joe Blacke 2002-01-22, 10:05 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by anglin_fool
All hail King Joe Blacke!
you and your know it all attitude has turned me off to another informative forum.
thanks wbafrank, if I were to come around again, I would look for more of your posts!
awwwwwwwww. The internet too tough for you? | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-23, 6:15 am |
| must of hit a nerve from that lite heart jab. | |
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| PotatoHead 2002-01-23, 10:12 pm |
| Hmmmm.... | |
| anglin_fool 2002-01-24, 8:06 am |
| hey Joe Blacke,
quote:
You would also know that I can still score 1000 on these tests without having . . .
quote:
It's called studying and real life application. Something foreign to you, I'm sure. It's why I know the different methods of instal . . .
quote:
If you think your smart enough, why don't you take a crack at my "real life question . . .
These are slamsagainst a person who took you the same way as I did. A braindump memorizer! Wbafrank threw this question at us to get the conversation going. Who cares if it 'looked like' it came from the test. (apparently you) It looks like half of us got it wrong anyway because we assumed the wrong thing. That is the way the tests are worded.
quote:
awwwwwwwww. The internet too tough for you?
I don't think so | |
| Clangashe 2002-01-25, 6:47 am |
| Only if some people could understand that perfection is unattainable and that we do make mistakes and that being polite they would find people that will help them. But once someone believes they are above others it becomes a sad state of affairs for them.
No matter how rude they where. I praise others for not stooping to his standards. Once again your crediblity has shone.
Oh yeh I forgot to put ed after heart in my last post.
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| greenbean 2002-01-25, 7:41 pm |
| Forgive me, but I am a littled confused here.
Isn't the idea of the forums to get discussions going, and to create a friendly learning environment?
I am fairly new to this site, but I have read enough to know that wbafrank is very knowledgeable. Whether or not his question is completely accurate is not really the issue. This forum is to get us to think and brain storm.
I, for one, don't appreciate the 'know-it-all' comments made by joe black. Yes, I don't have to read them. But then I am the one that loses because I can't benefit from what's posted here by the other members.
Aren't these postings moderated?
If Mr. Black wants to contribute to these forums in an adult fashion, and share his knowledge (without bragging) I bet we would ALL appreciate that.....
Am I right?!? | |
| navyret69 2002-01-28, 7:34 pm |
| A and C are correct
A= you have installed Win2k onthe machine
b= regauardless of weather you change the bios setting or not its still going to use the auto run so its no faster the unattended method would be better
C= yes because you have established ntfs file system
d= no way you have not even started to join the domain | |
| mrfixit 2002-01-28, 8:02 pm |
| Hey Joe! What are your certifications? Probably everything under the sun, by the way you brag!
quote:
Firstly, I had this EXACT same question on the test. There is no doubt about it not being the same question at all. I got a 1000 on the test, so I know I got it right.
And if you can remeber every word of every question you ever had on an exam....you must have a photographic memory too!
This is a professional forum, and you are being extermely unprofessional. If you want to act like a 5-year old, go play in your sandbox! Leave the professional forums to those who want to learn from them, not abuse them.
'nuff said... | |
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| I'm sure Frank is ready for this thread to die.. I'm sure you've noticed that Mr. Blacke hasn't been around for the last week or so..
It is unfortunate that Joe took such a beligerant (did I spell that right) approach. Mr. Blacke did/does have some hot sports opinions that's for sure.
I personally think his questions are relevant but his communication skills and attitude definitely have negative results.
Don't let this absurd example of ignorance prevent you from participating in these forums. I can assure you that the "power posters" here can and will help you achieve your goals..
Good luck!! |
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