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| Whassup all???
I just picked up the Sybex Win2k Pro book. Is it a keeper or is there something better on the market for Win2k Pro? Thx
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| Hey I got that too. Have barely cracked it but am very interested in the repys. Perhaps the famous Yeti the helpful will grace us with a reply
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| I bought the Sybex book,also. In fact I had bought the four books(core requirement) package from Bookpool.com for about $90.00.
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| Tada...drum roll please..... 
Hmmm nope I haven't got that one as I'm going for the dreaded 240 exam on the 15th eeeek!
I'll ask my chums though and get you some feedback for you.
Yeti the Bookless
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| Good luck on the 240 exam. I am hearing that the pass rate currently is near 30%. With that, i figured that I would divide and conquer. What I am hearing from other MCSEs is that they plan on taking it in the spring or summer. By that time, i should have at least a couple of the exams done. Let me know what you find out about the Sybex book.
thx!
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| Hi,
I would recommend the Sybex book if you are new to 2000 Pro and certification, as it gives you a good place to start.
Unfortunately it does not go into enough detail on some of the subjects that appear on the exam. Make sure you know TCP/IP, network troubleshooting and RIS as well as you are able to (I would list more things to learn, but it's been a while since I took the exam and I am busy learning new things!).
I would personally recommend taking A+ and Network+ before moving onto the 2000 certification, as a lot of knowledge you need - the cert track assumes you already have. I recently started a Desktop Support position and have found my MCP status to be almost useless in regards to this job. It may take a bit longer, but there is something to be said for starting right at the beginning. I wish I had realised this before I had embarked on the certification road!!!
Paul.
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| Boy do I know that feeling. When I started this stuff I knew beans and plunged into MCSE training while working a help desk and after I blew up a couple of machines I realized that the 95 MCSE track was pretty much useless to me. You are right A+ and N+ are much more helpful when running a help desk than MCSE. I am doing the W2K to move to 3rd tier support rather than having to explain that its not a cup holder every other day. 
I am currently doing N+ and W2K Pro at the same time. Brain overload
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| I liked the exam cram books as a nice complement...
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| Hiya ,
Nobody has mentioned Alan Carter's Mcse study system book . I am busy reading it at the moment . It is supposed to prepare you for the 4 core exams . Does anyone here know how good this book is compared to others ie |Sybex|Exam Cram|I hope it is enough cos it cost me £70 !!! , also it's pretty easy to understand , i'm on chapter 5 already and i understand most of the concepts.
Any help would be appreciated . I've been with this site since i started the A+ in March and i know you guys won't let me down.
Thanks in advance
Evan A+ Net+ Inet+ | |
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| Heheheheheheheh just wait till you hit chapters 10-13 you will change your tune a tad....
Yeti burstsing to song singing:
" There I was justa reading my book..do a didi dum didi do.. came across chapters 10-13 sining doa didi dum didi do... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaargh" sing stops abruptley " What the F#@c$ing H@=l is this ? Sining starts again " sining do didi dum didi do.... looks hard, looks bad....no non no this is all wrong. " At this point You will have figured out that the book is not as an easy read as onme first thought.
Hope you liked it, More from the trials & trivulations of Yeti the Bard at the same time tomorrow, Until then play nice kids .
Yeti the Wannabe Bard
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| mmmm , So , is it enough or not ?
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| I purchased Alan Carter's book about a week ago and so far I like it. I really thought he did good job on the NT 4.0 Study Guide. I'm only at Ch. 5 re: Control Panels, so it's a little early to tell.
One thing that is different in the 2000 System Study versus his former NT 4.0 text is the labs are not (or don't appear to be) and well layed out. However this is minor.
Carter's never steered me wrong in the past and the last time I looked up his book at Amazon's web site, it was sold out. I will probably buy the transcenders practice tests and find as many "free" exams on the net as possible to get ready to take the exam.
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| Thanks for the answer Mookieboy , i appreciate it . I'm also on chapter 5 and hopefully will be sitting the exam in about 3 weeks time .
See ya
Evan
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| quote:
Originally posted by Yeti-GBR1:
Heheheheheheheh just wait till you hit chapters 10-13 you will change your tune a tad....
Yeti burstsing to song singing:
" There I was justa reading my book..do a didi dum didi do.. came across chapters 10-13 sining doa didi dum didi do... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaargh" sing stops abruptley " What the F#@c$ing H@=l is this ? Sining starts again " sining do didi dum didi do.... looks hard, looks bad....no non no this is all wrong. " At this point You will have figured out that the book is not as an easy read as onme first thought.
Hope you liked it, More from the trials & trivulations of Yeti the Bard at the same time tomorrow, Until then play nice kids .
Yeti the Wannabe Bard
I do not believe you have been able to help Esexon with this kind of response. His question is a simple one - is Alan Carter's prep book ok or not? We need to keep focus otherwise we will end up wasting not only our own time but more importantly other people's precious time.
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| Hey all.
After some time wasted/invested and the 70-210 test taken and passed, I have been able to answer my own question. DO NOT USE SYBEX FOR THE 70-210 EXAM!!! In all 800 pages, they are still too vague with the information. Luckily for me I have hands on and performed a scaled rollout with the Win2k product. Without that, I would never have passed. Exam Cram does a better job with the material and Transcender does a good job with the longer question format. As an investment, the 2000 Pro Resource kit is a good buy. It will pay to know this product well for after the release of the next service pack early next year, more companies will begin rollouts on the front end.
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| Hello one & all,
Jazebel please remember one thing whilst going for certifications:
Smile, Laugh, joke and above all keep your sense of humor.
Whilst I admit that if you read the book that was in question then you would understand why I made the remark I did. As for wasting peoples time all I can say is that when you have been in this game as long as I have, any thread that has a sense of humor and a gives advice is not a waste of time. Ok lets ask all the others what they think.
Ok people do you think I was wasting peoples time by my earlier comment?
Yeti the Inquisitive
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| Has anyone read a good book lately on how to skin a Yeti? Preferably the UK type. The US type have a softer, smoother, more mallable hide. The UK type is entirely different, and I have literally destroyed several and had to give them to the kids. I'm trying for that unique wall hanging for the den that I can throw darts at while studying/cramming.
Thanks,
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| Hi RexOrion,
Long time no write. I just was cruising by reading the posts and wanted to congratulate you on the 70-210 pass! I was also wondering about the Carter 2000 book too. I just bought one the other day. I heard that it was pretty good but a little weak on details for Network Infrastructure and something else I believe. I heard that the Win2K Pro exam cram in particular is excellent too. I doubt that it would be sufficient alone though for this one.
Anyway, I will check in to see how the comments go with the Carter book. As someone said it ain't cheap!
For now take care. Congrats again. | |
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| Kang,
The 70-210 exam is not one to be feared nor to be taken lightly. I think that it is a fair exam. However, I dont think that the Carter book did a good job of preparation. It is a good overview book that would have been sufficient when Windows 2000 Professional was first released. To prep for most of my exams, I used the combination of Exam Cram, Transcender, and hands on experience. This is one that I will continue to use.
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| Yeti
Absolutely not!!!! We are all in here breaking our brains trying to figure this stuff out and need humor where ever we can find it.
Cadman
Have you tried a Ginsu steak knife??
Lets not go the way of the N+ forum where people spend so much time blasting each other that no one learns or gets irritated and leaves.
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| quote:
Originally posted by Yeti-GBR1:
Hello one & all,
Jazebel please remember one thing whilst going for certifications:
Smile, Laugh, joke and above all keep your sense of humor.
Whilst I admit that if you read the book that was in question then you would understand why I made the remark I did. As for wasting peoples time all I can say is that when you have been in this game as long as I have, any thread that has a sense of humor and a gives advice is not a waste of time. Ok lets ask all the others what they think.
Ok people do you think I was wasting peoples time by my earlier comment?
Yeti the Inquisitive
I agree with you Yeti. A little humour is always needed.
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| Hi RexOrion,
Well that is one heck of an overview book at about 1500 pages or whatever! Ok, well I do have the Exam Cram too and eventually I will get ahold of the Transcenders when I decide to start gearing up for these Win2K exams.
I have always liked the Exam Cram/ Transcender formula, but didn't thiunk it could cut the mustard with the so-called "new breed" of exams! Anyway, when I finally do head in that direction probably will read the Exam Cram first to at least get a feel for the stuff and see how comfortable I feel about it. I guess that if I can nail the Transcender exams okay should be in pretty good shape. Time will tell I guess. Thanks again. |
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