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unreÄssembled

2003-05-24, 3:27 am

I bought exam prep material from 2 differnt vendors.

Most of the questions for the 640-861 exam are the exact same.

However they both answer this one differently....


"While examining the existing system of a new customer, you discover that their network management facilities provide a means to detect and correct network device failures, monitor device and bandwidth utilization, and they use SSH to manage devices. Which two functional areas of network management has this customer failed to fulfill?


A) Fault Management
b) Configuration Management
C) Accounting Management
D) Performance Management
E) Secruity Management

Both agree that one answer is:
C) Accounting Management (No billing back for usage..)

One says the second answer is:
B) Configuration Management

The Other says the second answer is:
E) Secruity Management

I personally agree with E as the second answer because although SSH is a secure way to configure a device it is not, I would not concider it Security Management as it does not address the needs for Authentication and Authorization..

What do you all think ???

And will someone please take this 640-861, pass and let us all in on the scope and amount of the new materials


Sexy Lexy

2003-05-25, 7:51 am

quote:
Originally posted by unreÄssembled
I bought exam prep material from 2 differnt vendors.




Which ones exactly?

unreÄssembled

2003-05-25, 8:15 am

What difference does it make?


How would that change the answer to the question?
Sexy Lexy

2003-05-25, 8:29 am

Exam prep materials?
unreÄssembled

2003-05-25, 1:33 pm

I am sorry I don't understand your last post...


If you are looking for some exam prep materials for the CCDA I would suggest using the Boson... and although I have only used the demo for the transcender they look to be pretty good too!
zdennis

2003-05-26, 4:24 pm

In response to your question...I think the answer ...

"While examining the existing system of a new customer, you discover that their network management facilities provide a means to detect and correct network device failures, monitor device and bandwidth utilization, and they use SSH to manage devices. Which two functional areas of network management has this customer failed to fulfill?


A) Fault Management
b) Configuration Management
C) Accounting Management
D) Performance Management
E) Secruity Management

Both agree that one answer is:
C) Accounting Management (No billing back for usage..)

One says the second answer is:
B) Configuration Management

The Other says the second answer is:
E) Secruity Management


I agree with answer B. It does not mention anything in the question regarding Configuration management. Although E(Security Management) is not really obtained by using SSH, it is a form of security. I may be off, but this is how I am reading the question.
unreÄssembled

2003-05-27, 12:26 am

Actually the configuration management is made possible by the SSH.

In the real world you would be thinking of Cisco Works RME or the like,

but for the exam you only need to have a way to configure it..... so telnet could be your confiuration management solution.
unreÄssembled

2003-05-27, 1:32 am

There is a way to configure and thus there is configuration managemnet but there is no "security" be cause there is no authentication, authorization, filtering and NIDS.

SSH ensures "data confidentiality" but is not a "Security solution".

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc...qfr/safe_wp.htm

Security management is obviously much larger in scope then configuration management, I am certain the SSH is just there to throw people of, typical of a Cisco exam.
zdennis

2003-05-27, 8:23 am

I see your point and I switch sides!!! I agree with Security being not there and I agree with your point. Thanks for info!
dgibaud

2003-06-26, 5:14 pm

According to the Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions (DESGN) course book from Cisco (I followed a DESGN class with Global Knowledge) the Security Management (as a functional area of network management):
- aids administrators in creating a secure network environment
- should provide security (strong authentication and encryption), scalability, manageability, and accounting
- routers and switches managed via different protocols (Telnet, SNMP, HTTP, RSH/RCMD, SSH)
- only one management protocol required; others should be disabled
- same management approach should be used on all network devices

So, it seems SSH is a protocol involved in the Security management.

Best regards
unreÄssembled

2003-06-26, 9:45 pm

It sure is, but they also have telnet listed.

It is a protocol used in security management and there are many that would be used from layer 2 on up so I would not say that in itself it is a security management solution.
dgibaud

2003-06-27, 2:31 am

"While examining the existing system of a new customer, you discover that their network management facilities provide a means to detect and correct network device failures, monitor device and bandwidth utilization, and they use SSH to manage devices. Which two functional areas of network management has this customer failed to fulfill?"

By reading the question I see that the question is about the "functional areas of network management" not about the "security management solution".

So, as SSH is a part of the security management functional area of network management, the "Configuration management" functional areas is a good answer. It is a very ambiguous question.

I passed my first CCDA exam on June 20 and failed at 806. I remember there was a question like this one, but I can't remember what I answered.

Best regards
ssuhan

2003-07-10, 9:33 pm

actually, what about the fault management option? shouldnt it be one of the answers also? since there is the means "to detect and correct network device failures"
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