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| amp26497 2004-06-18, 3:35 pm |
| I just got done with the BSCI Exam. I did not do very well. Are most people passing this on the first go around? I studied with Cisco Press (ODOM) and some Bosom. If you have any suggestions please feel free to comment. What is a reasonable failing score if there is such a thing? | |
| necrophantasm 2004-06-19, 1:36 pm |
| Don't feel bad man, I've failed it twice so far. Please read my previous post "BSCI Material Recommendations" for some tips. I can't tell you if they will definitely work or not (I haven't taken the exam since I got the new materials), but it may help out a bit as many others have added their input. Sorry to hear about the fail, hope you have better luck on the next try. | |
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| I am reading IS-IS, very confusing after read thru the OSPF...
Any hint u can tell me what to expect from the exam...
Many definitions and I don't seem to remember most of the stuff. | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-20, 6:43 pm |
| The materials from the books you are reading and the exam objectives outlined on the Cisco website should provide sufficient hints as to what to expect on the exam. | |
| amp26497 2004-06-21, 7:13 am |
| Necrophantasm,
I have less than 11 months to get one of the 642 exams under my belt. I thought based on my job and experience that the routing exam would be the easiest. In your opinion should I try the routing again or try another exam first to recertify the CCNA. My job is a second level network support analyst responsible for a mostly Cisco Router / switch environment.
Kasor,
I do not want to give any information away about the exam except you best know the material well. ISIS is not a big part of the exam. Know your OSPF, EIGRP and BGP well. I was surprised how much BGP was on the exam. From what I can remember I had to guess at over 15 questions. The material that I knew well was asked in a way to make it confusing. Study long and hard unless you are brilliant. | |
| necrophantasm 2004-06-21, 1:16 pm |
| I passed BCMSN 3 days before my CCNA was going to expire (so I know the pressure you are talking about). If I were you I would retake routing. You have already dumped time and money into that exam. If nothing else, failing teaches you the types of questions you will get and the sims are the same no matter how many times you take the exam. That type of experience isn't worth the 125.00, but if you start fresh on a different exam you will have spent that money for absolutely nothing (by the time you go back to routing you will have forgotten the questions you got previously and you might forget a decent amount of what you know now from your previous preparation). Even if you fail this one 3 times in a row, don't give up on it. Each time you take the exam you will become more familiar with the topics and you will understand where your strengths and weaknesses are (increasing your chances of passing on the next try). If you put it down, you will have to start over from scratch later and may find yourself in the same position that you are in now. I know failing is a major demotivator, but don't give up on an exam. If you do it will have been all for nothing.
As for the exam itself. You may have not gotten much IS-IS the first time, but it may switch next time. The first time I took it I had almost all IS-IS and OSPF and almost no BGP. The second time I got almost all BGP and OSPF with very little IS-IS. Bear this in mind, study everything!! Good luck on the next try man.. I've been back to studying this week and will hopefully retake the exam again in 2-3 weeks. | |
| forbesl 2004-06-28, 5:28 am |
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Originally posted by jall
>>I've failed BSCI 4 times. <snip> Finally discovered testking and it helped me get closer, but Cisco is trying hard to change this test early and often.
Gee, I wonder why that they do that?
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to thisdumass, timeout is 2 seconds:
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Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) | |
| npo3po 2004-06-28, 12:47 pm |
| just keep at it man, you'll get your cert.
good luck and study harder.
Amir | |
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Originally posted by amp26497
I just got done with the BSCI Exam. I did not do very well. Are most people passing this on the first go around? I studied with Cisco Press (ODOM) and some Bosom. If you have any suggestions please feel free to comment. What is a reasonable failing score if there is such a thing?
you don't mention hands-on and lab time in your post... did you get any? Because if not, I can see why you may not have fared as well as you thought you would... | |
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Originally posted by jall
>>I've failed BSCI 4 times. Best score was low 700's. I have already passed the other 3 tests required for the CCNP. Oh well, guess I'll set a record.. Finally discovered testking and it helped me get closer, but Cisco is trying hard to change this test early and often.
Imagine that! The Nerves of that company to change their tests so that your cheat sheet is of no help... Man, someone should do something about that.
Oh man, the stuff you get to read... | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-28, 3:31 pm |
| I have created a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| forbesl 2004-06-28, 3:35 pm |
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Originally posted by jall
BTW- I have never failed any exams before CCNP and I have a Bachelor's degree, CCNA, CCDA and an MCSE.
If you're trying to impress me, I remain unmoved. I know too many people who have bachelor's degrees who don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground, too many who have a CCNA/CCDA that don't even know how to console into a router, and I won't even mention how I feel about people with MCSE's who think they are God's gift to system administration, but don't know how to partition a hard drive.
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Originally posted by forbesl
If you're trying to impress me, I remain unmoved. I know too many people who have bachelor's degrees who don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground, too many who have a CCNA/CCDA that don't even know how to console into a router, and I won't even mention how I feel about people with MCSE's who think they are God's gift to system administration, but don't know how to partition a hard drive...
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LOL... please make a list and circulate it so that we never hire any of these people by mistake!  | |
| forbesl 2004-06-28, 3:40 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
LOL... please make a list and circulate it so that we never hire any of these people by mistake!
Fortunately, none of them work with me, but I meet quite a few of them (outside of my company) while performing my job. I'm part of a team that has to fix their f***-ups. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-28, 3:40 pm |
| I protest against brain dumps and members try and get me sacked as moderator! 
You guys are great! Keep up the good work.
The nerve of Cisco changing their exams to thwart the cheats, someone should take them to court for unfair exam practices.
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I protest against brain dumps and members try and get me sacked as moderator!
not to reopen that debate, but it seems to me that the protesting was more about *the way* in which you protested, rather than the subject you protested  | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-28, 4:02 pm |
| Innovations are made when rules are broken, not condoning cheating in that statement either!
Perhaps I was a little, shall we say, ostentatious; but I did get the point across.
Eventually!
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| ... and as you may recall, I was not one asking for your head either... I was just asking for cooler heads | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-28, 4:22 pm |
| I do remember; and the poll in the general forum finished the matter once and for all.
Both you and Ruscorp were fantastic, thank you both.
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| frankly, I was sensitive to both sides of the story on that one. It's jus that at the end of the day, I believe in working with what we have and making it better, more than I believe in outright revolution and losing a source of knowledge for all of us... | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-28, 4:31 pm |
| Very well spoken, couldn't have said it better myself.
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| Is BSCI that difficult?
I am studying right now....
How do u remember all of those command and syntax?
I get very confused... | |
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| hands on in a lab, maybe? I know that works for me... | |
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| Thanks forbesl for all your help and encouragement. I wish you well and hope you keep helping others with your wise words and wit.
I never cheated in college and do not feel that looking at a testking is cheating. Is reading Cisco Press cheating? I read the BSCI FAT BOOK twice, and did all I could without a freakin' router. Not all of us are sitting with a bunch of gear.
Dumbass- coming to a router near you
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| so, you don't feel that getting to look at the next day's test in college, question by question, would not be cheating either, then? | |
| necrophantasm 2004-07-18, 9:48 am |
| Freak,
You know I don't approve of dumps or other cheats either, but it's hard to say anything when you are a moderator on a forum that's got "Over 90 CHEET-SHEET FOR THE PRICE OF ONE" right on every page. People will do whatever they want. I agree with you and Lexy, but waving that flag doesn't do much good (except to start endless flame wars) and you know it. Lexy if your methods weren't acceptable to some you probably made a real effort to make a change in what is considered acceptable and what isn't (instead of just starting flame wars that make for pages of useless posts). Maybe if the other moderators did the same our webmaster would see that the majority agrees and actually try to change some of the forum policies and sponsors. I applaud your efforts. | |
| forbesl 2004-07-18, 9:51 am |
| It's amazing what people will say and do to justify their idiocy.
Oh, well...another useless individual gets one step further on the road of certification. He's probably going to get his CCNP by way of memorizing test-king. Then he's going to wonder how come he can't find a job doing what he thinks he knows how to do. | |
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| I did see information before the test in college, however it was from hours of studying the lecture notes that I took in class, and WOW- the exact questions were there the next day... Wrote over 30 MAJOR papers for my advanced History classes, all documented, and did quite well. I quoted sources and placed them in my papers when needed. Is that cheating?
BTW- testking did not have any exact "word for word" questions on the exam I got, basically used them to help me "see" somebody else's interpretation of one of the sims.
The Test-King was close enough to help me figure out one of the OSPF sims and setting up area's (stub).
The time was always the enemy, most of the multiple choice were not too bad, it was always the sims and wondering if I forgot that one line....
For me , certifications are like a college degree, you don't know everything until you actually start using in "real life".
My B.A. got me a job
The job needed somebody to do Novell & NT Admin work, the CNA & MCSE helped.
The next job needed someone to configure switches and load config files on routers, the CCNA helped.
When my job needed someone to design networks, I got a CCDA, that has helped.
Now, my company needs some WAN and more advanced Router work (VPN's, access-lists, etc.), so the CCNP will help with that.
My rambling point is:
- If I have to constantly have to learn new things, why not get a cert while you are at it?
Sorry if I have offended anybody on this list, just trying to keep working. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-18, 9:57 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by jall
BTW- testking did not have any exact "word for word" questions on the exam I got, basically used them to help me "see" somebody else's interpretation of one of the sims.
The Test-King was close enough to help me figure out one of the OSPF sims and setting up area's (stub).
In other words, you cheated.
"See" an interpretation? Get the answer beforehand.
Figure out the OSPF sims? Get the answer beforehand.
What a joke. | |
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| forbesl
Oh, well...another useless individual gets one step further on the road of certification. He's probably going to get his CCNP by way of memorizing test-king.
>> only used testking for BSCI, already passed all 3 other tests-first time, all by myself- no TK, just Cisco Press.
Then he's going to wonder how come he can't find a job doing what he thinks he knows how to do.
>> already have that job
Once again, thanks for your kindness | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-18, 10:02 am |
| You still cheated and passed an exam you didn't deserve to.
Justify that. | |
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| In other words, you cheated.
"See" an interpretation? Get the answer beforehand.
>> I asked alot of people for some help with this, is that cheating?
Figure out the OSPF sims? Get the answer beforehand.
>> Good luck with your studies, hope you pass. I guess you have the luxury of actually having some routers to play with, I did not. |
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