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djjit

2003-09-03, 8:05 pm

Hi All,

I just purchased 4 x 2503 routers from an online auction. Total US$ 750 (AUS $11250), not sure whether this is a good price, as routers are quite expensive down here in OZ, besides a CCNP course could run up to US $5000 +. I am hoping to get a couple of 1900 switches to complete my lab. I am assuming the 2503’s are better than 2501 routers as these got ISDN BRI. Right?

I am sure this might sound quite silly for some, but I am still finding my way around Cisco equipment, so my question is; how should the typical router – switch configuration be for the CCNP. I am not an expert in setting up labs, so any advice, diagrams and websites are much appreciated.

Thank you

djjit
sukuvi

2003-09-04, 12:11 am

There's no typical router configuration for CCNP studies.
The books you are going to use to study should have lab exercises in them for you to follow and set up, especially the Cisco Press books. If you follow the exercises in the book, sometimes you can configure the router for a chapter then make a few changes to go with the next chapter or you could clear everything and start from scratch. I used to clear the config and start afresh with each chapter, so that pratice helped in retaining a lot of commands and their syntax but it's up to you. You could even buy the Cisco Network Academy Lab Books which have about 10 labs for each course.

About the 1900 switches, I don't think they will help at all with the Switching course, it would be better to go with 2924XL due to the trunking features.
djjit

2003-09-04, 12:38 am

Sukuvi, thanking you kindly for the information & advice. I thought you could use the two fast Ethernet on the 1900 for trunking purposes? Or I am I wrong?

Also, 2503’s would be a better choice than the 2501, right?

djjit
sukuvi

2003-09-04, 11:31 am

The 1900 is the lowest end of the Catalyst Switches so it doesn't support Trunking, however the 2924XL, I believe is the low end switch that supports it.

The Trunking feature is based on the switch model and not on Fast Ethernet. What I mean is Fast Ethernet supports Trunking but it's got to be on a switch that supports it before you can use it.

The 2501 will be okay too because unless you have a simulator to play with the ISDN, it won't be of any use while you are practicing. This is why the 2501 are okay, and I hope you didn't pay extra to get the 2503 compared to the 2501.

Good Luck!!!
djjit

2003-09-04, 8:25 pm

Thank you for the advice… again. I have made a note of the switch you recommended (2924 XL).

Actually, I got a bargain for 4 x 2503. So…. my router worries are over. Now I’m hunting for a couple of switches. I will follow your advice and configure the router/switch according to the lab exercises on the study guide(s), as soon as they are available. (the new CCNP study material won’t be released until the end of the year.)

Thank you very much once again.
lamchung

2003-09-07, 7:47 pm

Well,

If you are in OZ and in Sydney capital, then I can help you by provide you with training for a reasonable fee which will save you a lots instead of buying all the routers and switches.
djjit

2003-09-07, 8:11 pm

I always wanted a home lab, that’s my primary objective. What sort of training courses you offer anyway? Where is it & How much? Dorp me an, e-mail
JayDot

2003-09-08, 9:33 am

I have (4) 2500 Router I set up for Lab purpose to Learn CCNP Concepts.....

I find it's Good to have the Routers and actually be able to log into and touch and see and Play with the ROuters but it difficult to Configure the topology for some of these labs. Some router need 4 Serial INT Some You Need Two and Two Ethernet Ports Etc ISDN int ETC ETc


You need Special Serial Cable to Connect two Router togather Back to Back...
Because in REAL WORLD serial interfaces interface with ESU/CSU (DTE)

Anyway I found site to Help along with Your Home Lab......

http://www.chinaitlab.com/www/experiment/lab3.asp
edmonds_robert

2003-09-08, 11:35 am

quote:
Originally posted by sukuvi
The 1900 is the lowest end of the Catalyst Switches so it doesn't support Trunking [...]


Actually, the 1900 does support trunking.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...r /> 6929.shtml

How do I configure trunking and/or the desired VLAN range on the trunk port?
Configuring trunks on the Catalyst 1900 or 2820 requires using the command line interface.

Enter the interface fastethernet [module_#]/[port_#] command to select a Fast Ethernet port to configure for trunking.
Enter the trunk on command to configure the port into permanent ISL trunk mode. The default trunking configuration of Fast Ethernet ports is "auto," so at this point the trunk link should come up. If it does not, check the trunking configuration of the Fast Ethernet port on the other end of the trunk link.
Enter the trunk-vlan [vlan-list] command to select up to ten VLANs for trunk grouping.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer...8.shtml#configs

Cat1924-EN(config)#int fast0/27
Cat1924-EN(config-if)#trunk desirable

Cat1924-EN#show run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
vtp domain "DOC"
!
vtp client
!
vlan 2 name "VLAN0002" sde 100002 state Operational mtu 1500
!
!
hostname "Cat1924-EN"
!
interface Ethernet 0/27
trunk Desirable


line console
end


If it didn't support trunking, how would you configure the switch to handle more than one VLAN?

Robert
darthfeces

2003-09-08, 12:46 pm

http://www.fatkid.com

free stuff
djjit

2003-09-08, 8:37 pm

Guys, thank you very much for the info & advice. JayDot, the I agree about having the real routers to play with & get familiarized, there is no other substitute. What sort of switches are you using? The web link you gave me is not working properly, however, the main China IT Lab site works.

Robert, have you used a 1900 for trunking purposes? I have just completed a Cisco registration form to access the links you provided. Thanks.

Darthfeces, top site, still getting to know it. the diagrams & schematics are excellent. Also helps you with setting up router racks.

Thank you all

Jit
sukuvi

2003-09-09, 10:53 pm

quote:
Actually, the 1900 does support trunking.


I apologize for using the word "support" in my reply. Also I didn't do my own research but used information right here on this forum: there was a thread that SureshHomepage replied to (I searched for it but couldn't find it) about using the Cat 1900 for Trunking. SureshHomePage said something about the 1900 being "crap" and suggested the 2924XL instead. I haven't tried Trunking on any of these switches. SureshHomepage might have, due to the recommendation he made.

I hope SureshHomePage reads this thread and provides more info about Trunking on the 1900.
darthfeces

2003-09-09, 11:20 pm

1900 only supports isl trunk
SureshHomepage

2003-09-10, 4:32 am

I would still say guys go for the 2924XL.

Thanks to Sukuvi for inviting me into this thread. I refer to an old thread where I reportedly made a posting made a wrong wording that a 1924 switch doesn't support trunk. On that, if I remember correctly I think I actually refererd the standard IOS edition which came with a NO trunking support and NON-CLI based IOS, it just had menus. (Whats CLI? Command Line Interface!)

On the Enterprise 9.00.05 versioned IOS, it started supporting the CLI and trunking. Yes it doesn't support the dot1q trunking. Also the trunking can only be enabled on the two Fastethernet interfaces and not on the regular 24 odd ethernet interfaces.

For those pursuing their CCNA/CCNP I would suggest to go for a 2924XL rather than the old and outdated 1924. If you want to have a 'feel' of working with a real switching IOS, go for 2924. Also the 1924 doesn't support many of the recent technologies to name few; port security, port span, broadcast storm-control, access-control lists, etc.
darthfeces

2003-09-10, 9:32 am

good advise .... then on to the 3550

what do you think of the 3750 ?
sukuvi

2003-09-10, 10:17 pm

Thanks, SureshHomepage, for joining in and clearing up the confusion. I really appreciate your contribution to this thread.
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