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CCNP and the IT Industry
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| cactus 2002-05-29, 7:27 am |
| I will be CNNP certified by mid June(already CCNA), and will be looking for a job after that. Myself being a foreigner in the US and being aware of the downward slide that the IT Industry has come to find itself stuck in, I was wondering if there is any guys out there that happens to be so lucky to have a IT job at the moment that could give me some tips or guidelines where to start or what to look out for.
I am pursuing my CCIE and want to get into the industry as soon as possible.
South African abroad. | |
| drizzits 2002-05-29, 11:51 am |
| I would say this,
If your looking for an in CCNP is not the way to go. Thats just the way it is. My thoughts are to go get your mcse. I'm talking from experence. Last Year wehen I was job hunting everyone thought it was a novel Idea that I had a ccnp but when it came down to it they wanted someone with an mcse. Once you have your mcse and two years exp or so then go for your ccnp. CCNA get whenever you want CCNP wait so you look legit and not like a test taker. | |
| peterd 2002-05-31, 3:18 am |
| Hello,
to get started, you need /any/ IT job...but you may have to take something that doesn't pay too well.
Do you have a Yellow Pages telepone book, the type of phone book that lists companies under their type of business? Whatever, you grab your local phone book and ring every company in town, starting with the biggest and ask if they have any vacancies.
I'd not ask for the human resources department, they get swamped by people asking for every kind of job. I'd ask the switchboard for the IT helpdesk and ask the guys there if there's anything happening.
Ask for the name of the IT manager and send my CV directly to him/her. If s/he is interested in an interview then you'll bypass the HR side of things completely (they have very little understanding of what we do anyway, so that's a bonus!).
Once you have a job you'll find it easier to get another one, but don't move too often or too quickly. We had a guy working here who changed jobs every 18 months or so...it doesn't make the CV look very good...
Good Luck!
Peter | |
| chodan 2002-06-02, 8:43 am |
| For an entry level position any Certification will help, but without a couple years expierience you "probably" won`t be getting a network admin or network engineer offers.
You will be glad you have it in a year or 2 though, after you have some hands on for awhile it can be your trump card for a promotion or a new job. | |
| darthfeces 2002-06-02, 2:43 pm |
| you're not serious are you ???
mcse ?
every mcse i've ever met that can't solve an issue blames it on the network, then WE fix Their problem.
just my 2c | |
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every mcse i've ever met that can't solve an issue blames it on the network, then WE fix Their problem.
Oooohhh.....that's fighting talk where I'm from!  | |
| darthfeces 2002-06-02, 3:01 pm |
| a little too general i guess
i mean (most) not all
as in your garden variety mcse.
didn't meant to insult now we'll have to go out for a pint. | |
| chodan 2002-06-02, 9:08 pm |
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Originally posted by darthfeces
you're not serious are you ???
mcse ?
every mcse i've ever met that can't solve an issue blames it on the network, then WE fix Their problem.
just my 2c
Who is we? 
as in "we the network guys?" or a specific we where you work.
There isn`t enough people to blame where I work hehe, also we have to manage the systems and the network and everything else so we can`t point fingers.
That would be nice sometimes though  | |
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| SuperCertMan 2002-06-03, 7:52 am |
| When we need to point fingers here in the company or we need a good laugh, we pick on the programmers... they're a joke! | |
| shanelai 2002-06-03, 8:45 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by SuperCertMan
When we need to point fingers here in the company or we need a good laugh, we pick on the programmers... they're a joke!
When in doubt, blame it on layer 7.  | |
| 2beCCIE 2002-06-06, 8:05 am |
| Tell ya what. Just try to get in the door without an MCSE. Doesn't matter how easy it is or how much we all have it. Any employer that knows anything about IT will require it. The talk of it's devaluation does not matter one bit. They still demand it. A+ and MCSE are almost mandatory. Some would even add CCNA to that. Specialized stuff after that are icing on the cake.
Software guys blame hardware guys and vice versa. It is like the hatfields and McCoys. It has been like that forever and will continue.
Just one man's opinion!!! | |
| kalejaiye 2002-06-06, 6:31 pm |
| With ur CCNP, it will be easy getting a job in the US, but an MCSE holder willhave an easier run.
Just dont worry, very soon cisco certification will take over the whole US |
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