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| Cyclenut 2001-08-08, 4:09 pm |
| I'm at a company that was recently bought out by World Com and cutbacks have been happening all over the place. The least technical (Sales force, customer service/helpdesk)were the first to go. It's a very stressful enviornment to work in every day, being in fear of losing your job. What's even more scary is knowing that no one seems to be hiring on the level that I'm on and if they are the pay isn't the same. I just wanted to get some opinions from you guys and what you think about the current job situation in the Tech feild. I would love to hear your responses!!! | |
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| what kind of job u do.where u live .what is
u r experience it's all depend.in new york if u r looking a job for 35,000 to 45,000
i think u can get it easily but 65k to 90k it's difficult right now.
good luck | |
| Cyclenut 2001-08-08, 5:13 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by singh
what kind of job u do.where u live .what is
u r experience it's all depend.in new york if u r looking a job for 35,000 to 45,000
i think u can get it easily but 65k to 90k it's difficult right now.
good luck
I'm in DC by the way and I would be in the 65k to 90k range. I've considered going South as well, but I love it in DC. I love my current job until the buy out. Since the buy out so much has changed in our companies culture. Things are allot more uptight and stressful!! | |
| Dillon 2001-08-09, 1:31 am |
| With the economic climate the way that it is at present, I think that most of us are having a few doubts about job security & if not then we are being complacent.
All you can do is attempt to make yourself as employable as possible & hope the axe doesn't fall at your door.
On the whole it will be the sales related positions that will go first & the support side of things will still be required even if the new orders drop away. I suppose there is something to be said for finding yourself a job where the whole work ethic is a lot more relaxed.
Hope everything pans out alright for you!
Dillon  | |
| peterd 2001-08-09, 2:22 am |
| Hi,
my current employer has been taken over twice in two years. When I started two and a half years ago we had 17 on the IT staff, now there's only six and we run the entire group from here.
Fortunately I'm the only network engineer, all the other guys are Microsoft techies and they only have a basic idea of how Cisco works!
But over the last ten years I've worked for seven companies where four or five of them went out of business for one reason or another.
We saw it coming most of the time and could prepare for a couple of months...we knew that sales were drying up, etc. So we started looking for jobs, e-mailing CV's to agencies, etc, had an interview here and there as much for practice as anything else.
When the blow came we were better prepared.
The worst experience I had was when the DTI (a UK government department) closed one company down as being 'not in the public interest'. We had one days notice, told that the company was in The High Court on a Monday and the Official Receiver took over on Tuesday.
We had a good laugh about it...
or maybe not!
The things that all of this taught me:
keep your CV up-to-date
network with people
keep improving your skills
keep up-to-date with the job market
be prepared to move (quickly if you have to)
never leave personal stuff in the office
and if there's anything at work that you need a copy of, data on your hard-drive, paperwork, etc, then keep an updated copy at home at all times.
oh, and trust no-one!
Regards
Peter | |
| Cyclenut 2001-08-09, 10:26 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by peterd
Hi,
my current employer has been taken over twice in two years. When I started two and a half years ago we had 17 on the IT staff, now there's only six and we run the entire group from here.
Fortunately I'm the only network engineer, all the other guys are Microsoft techies and they only have a basic idea of how Cisco works!
But over the last ten years I've worked for seven companies where four or five of them went out of business for one reason or another.
We saw it coming most of the time and could prepare for a couple of months...we knew that sales were drying up, etc. So we started looking for jobs, e-mailing CV's to agencies, etc, had an interview here and there as much for practice as anything else.
When the blow came we were better prepared.
The worst experience I had was when the DTI (a UK government department) closed one company down as being 'not in the public interest'. We had one days notice, told that the company was in The High Court on a Monday and the Official Receiver took over on Tuesday.
We had a good laugh about it...
or maybe not!
The things that all of this taught me:
keep your CV up-to-date
network with people
keep improving your skills
keep up-to-date with the job market
be prepared to move (quickly if you have to)
never leave personal stuff in the office
and if there's anything at work that you need a copy of, data on your hard-drive, paperwork, etc, then keep an updated copy at home at all times.
oh, and trust no-one!
Regards
Peter
Peter that good stuff!!!! | |
| ciscogirl 2001-08-09, 10:44 am |
| I agree - I worked for a company that"merged" (read take-over) 5 times in 7 years. There are always signs (which you may not recognize the first time it happens to you) so it is a VERY good policy to be prepared (just like the Scouts, huh?). Never, never leave important stuff at work. I once worked for a company that was locked down by the IRS...we came to work and there was a padlock on the door! Never did get back in.... | |
| peterd 2001-08-10, 1:30 am |
| Hi Ciscogirl,
yes, it's sad that we have to be a little devious at times but unfortunately that's the world we live in.
Regards
Peter | |
| Sea Dragon 2001-08-10, 9:28 am |
| Why the crash in the IT sector, short time employment, job-hopping seems to be mainstay. It seems that more people live with fear of their jobs, the stress level is high, and uncertainty is just around the corner, even you can lose your job at any time. How does one cope with all this? Is it the profit motive? Present-day profit-motivated economics is doomed unless profit motives can be augmented by service motives. Ruthless competition based on narrow-minded self-interest is ultimately destructive of even those things that it seeks to maintain. Can you see the trend? Currently, getting a Government IT jobs seems to be the only island that will not be wiped out during a storm? Is this true to some degree and is this inherently wrong?
As for me, I am looking forward to the day when I go on the hunt, till then, I will be working on my home lab so I may learn, and maybe someday I can help others.
" War is not man's great and terrible disease; war is a symptom, a result. The real disease is the virus of national sovereignty " | |
| darthfeces 2001-08-10, 11:46 am |
| yes,
i aggree
i worked for an isp from 96-99 who sold out
to another isp
I then worked for a colocation and
dedicated web hosting company who got taken
over by concentric i hated the place anyway and left before the take over happened.
i now work for a .org museum in NY who pays average i make slightly over 50k
but have 401k pension and i just got a promotion
based on my cert efforts.
btw they have paid for every test and book
and am trying to talk them into a ccie course.
i have 3 kids and am happy with my current stability and am happier than ever
good luck all !
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| xzadio 2001-08-10, 12:16 pm |
| My 2 cents.
I read all the opinions from you guys and i
must say that this is a very big topic for this forum.
My humble opinion is that you ever,EVER
give anythink you gut in your current job.
I want to say that you must get connecting
with people in the IT field and stay in touch with guys like us in different places
and different jobs.(Like Peterd said)
IF you find a job that is NOT in the IT field like an ISP OR in computer industry OR a software,hardware company like CISCO,ORACLE,MICROSOFT...etc,you have the biggest oportunity to have a more happy life
like Darthfeces:-)
Ohhhh and for the end.
Please risk your money for investments(put the dollars here,put the f**king dollars there).Who knows,someday .... someday.!
Cya
~XzAdiO~ |
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