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Ciscoers

2001-07-30, 5:07 am

Hi all!
I just passed CCNA and want to prepare for the next CCNP.
Hope I can pass it all first time ^_^
heinzlee88

2001-07-30, 6:29 am

I might be a junior member in this forum but nonetheless, a warm welcome to the CCNP path, a long winding road because you simply do not have the equipment to practice on unless the company has spares, in which case I am lucky in that I have three spare 25xx routers, of which one is a 2509 RAS plus four spare 29xx, 35xx switches. No spare modular switch, less customer during implementation, setup, save the config, meddle around and restore before handing over.
depamo

2001-07-30, 8:29 am

Wow, you don't need to scare the guy like that on his first post. It isn't that horrible but a physical lab will help you get through the rough spots and understand the difficult problems.

Man, that is some gear though, probably makes for quite an impressive setup when you get it all running.
heinzlee88

2001-07-30, 9:28 am

Ciscoers, it was not meant to discourage you or bring into your mindset that Cisco is so tough. No certification is tough. It is you yourself. What I like to bring across is unless you are in constant touch with Cisco literally, (having extensive WAN setup on Cisco but never telnet in for the past quarter does not help), it is beneficial to have lab to experiment as you read the book and your know-how increases with every certification undertaken.



depamo, if I remember correctly you were the one who procures router out of you own pocket. I respect that as I might not be willing to invest to that extent. I do the company a favour by burning in those routers and switches by loaning out for a week or two weeks, wack around here and there (logically). BTW, those KRANG or any form of simulator is still not live enough but the next best alternative. The other is remote lab rental but not much around, those FOC and need to book.

I thing I know I'm right is despite the fact you have just joined in recently, you contributed much to this forum. Hope to find people like you in the other forum I am switching to.

Bye.
depamo

2001-07-30, 10:36 am

I do agree that until you get stuck in the middle of the war to keep everything working, have to deal with the reality of 'feeling' a network breath, you will never really understand everything that is being discussed in the books. To me, working on a real network allows me to see the things in the books that stick-out as important because those problems happen quite a bit, or I use that command all the time because it shows me what I need to know fast.

I have to use the lab to do things that I cannot do at work. There is no way in hell that I will put RIPv1 on my network! But at home I can play with it, use redistribution and some other cool tricks, and of course my favorite, shut a link down and watch what happens!!

Overall you are very right in your assessment that the combination of the real world and the lab will give you everything that you need to succed, but being short of one or the other, definetly makes it difficult to see what the book is trying to say.

Take it for what it is worth, just my opinion but I have learned quite a bit through certification. I will probably never use %50 of it but I know that it is there if I have a need.

Hope that you don't think that I was being critical in my last posting, was ment to more humerous then finger pointing. Seems that when a new CCNA approaches the group that someone will usually give them some interesting food for thought.

Later--
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