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| SpeakEasy 2001-04-29, 1:42 pm |
| I've got this site that has been offered an E1 connection dedicated link, for internet access and a hefty price tag. I don't wish to pursue this solution, so, I'm wondering what other options are available for this site. Its b/w 3 & 10Km from the telco.....- dsl only reaches I think 'bout 3Km..... any ideas on how to solve this!
Dial-up has been running for the passed few years, - however, presently requires a larger bandwidth access, min. T1 speed.
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| BlueBaron 2001-04-29, 7:56 pm |
| You're options are limited. If you want T1 speeds . . . you're gonna have to buy a T1. You could look into a Frame circuit with a CIR of about 768. That's not T1 speeds . . . but it would be better than dial up. Check into it, you might find it to be cheaper. | |
| doctorcisco 2001-04-29, 8:00 pm |
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Originally posted by SpeakEasy
I've got this site that has been offered an E1 connection dedicated link, for internet access and a hefty price tag. I don't wish to pursue this solution, so, I'm wondering what other options are available for this site. Its b/w 3 & 10Km from the telco.....- dsl only reaches I think 'bout 3Km..... any ideas on how to solve this!
Dial-up has been running for the passed few years, - however, presently requires a larger bandwidth access, min. T1 speed.
any ideas ?
Since we don't even know what country this site is in, I don't see how we could know what the options are better than you can. My first reaction is that if they've gotten by on dial-up for a few years, are you really sure they need about 30 times more bandwidth? What changed that makes this necessary? Are you really sure that a 128K ISDN link or two (instead of the 30-45 kbits that dial-up generally provides) wouldn't be enough?
Get prices for a fractional E1 instead of a full E1. If there are multiple ISP's in the area, get price quotes from all of them. (Also remember that the cheapest is usually cheapest for a reason -- the service may be terrible.)
If you have sites in multiple countries, in some situations it might be cheaper to buy a frame relay or point-to-point circuit that crosses a border, and put the internet access in the other country. Unlikely but possible.
The simple fact is that bandwidth is expensive. If it has to be fast, it won't be cheap. If it has to be cheap, it won't be fast.
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| SpeakEasy 2001-04-29, 9:40 pm |
| Dialup was sufficient as the access was limited to only a few people. Now this year, they've decided to allow access to over 100 people; hence the increase in bandwidth demand. The usage is only working hours of the week; so a 24/7 is not really required.
access at a 1.5Mb (T1) or 2Mb (E1) or 2 dsl links (at 1Mb) would be sufficient for the time being.
Although a few ISPs do exist, the infrastructure is only provided via the telco company, which wants to charge 'bout $250,000 for the cabling and connection. I'm trying to avoid shedding that amount for cables they'll be able to use later on when more sites are present in that area and make more money than they should!
Actual access to the internet from a site close to the telco exchange is 'bout $1500 per year per dsl link.
(no frame-relay cts. in place yet!) | |
| doctorcisco 2001-04-30, 1:51 am |
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Originally posted by SpeakEasy
access at a 1.5Mb (T1) or 2Mb (E1) or 2 dsl links (at 1Mb) would be sufficient for the time being.
Although a few ISPs do exist, the infrastructure is only provided via the telco company, which wants to charge 'bout $250,000 for the cabling and connection. Actual access to the internet from a site close to the telco exchange is 'bout $1500 per year per dsl link.
Yikes, I can see why you want other choices!
Your problem is trying to get T1 speed without using a telco local loop (for which they want the $250K). It seems to me you're left with the following (bad) choices. Both require making a deal with someone close to the telco exchange and allowing you to put a router and some other equipment at their location. You'd then get the E1 or a couple of DSL circuits to THAT location, and use one of the following so that you could use the connection.
1) Is there any way at all you could run a single mode fiber cable to someone's building near the exchange? Along a fence maybe? On power company poles? 100BaseFX over single mode fiber could cover the distance.
2) Line-of-sight microwave. It's not secure, and it doesn't like bad weather (especially rain). You'd need a direct line of sight between the two locations, which might require putting the dish at each end up on a tower. But it's probably your only alternative to telco.
FWIW,
doctorcisco
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| SpeakEasy 2001-04-30, 9:20 am |
| drcisco,
thanx for the input, unfortunately, both choices are relatively unaccepted, especially the second one. However, today, just found out that 'bout 10 other establishments in the area need to connect at the same speed within the next 9months! So, I gave a recommendation to be patient for others to join in. Might get away saving over 200K..... 
Cheers...
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