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Author Is learning a requirement at your job?

2001-01-28, 5:16 am

The other day at my job someone said that this company is to small to afford to let people learn while they are on the job. Since then I have been thinking more and more about this persons statement and really starting to become annoyed with it, this is person is a peer not someone I report to. although the person I report to was standing there when this was said and did not rebute that comment. I am now wondering why? I study at work but in order for me to do my job effectivly I most constantly be learning something. I guess it's also a requirement for me. If your not learning on the job I think your skills will be old news in a few years and you will have to play some serious catch up.

How do you all feel about learning on the job? Is it a requirement for you? or do you feel like well " I'm a cisco tech and that's it" that's all I should be doing.

2001-01-28, 5:21 am

Well if learning new things on the job is not happening then i thionk its time to look for a new job. I learn something new everyday and yes i do see the same things over and over to but for the most part working in the network field means you learn something new everyday as things are always changing

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2001-01-28, 11:47 am

Could it be they meant the company is too small to afford the expensive training classes? I could understand it if that's what they meant because I'm not a fan of 3 day $2000 classes. I do not believe you get your money's worth from them anyway.

On the negative side they could of meant they are too small to pay you your market value if your skill level increases and that would be a bummer!

Yankee

2001-01-28, 5:03 pm

beenframed,

I would be worried if somebody started questioning what I do at work. If I were you I would go to my supervisor and convince him/her that learning while on the job is something I must do. And I mean convince him/her to the degree that he/she tells me to do it.

Take care!

2001-01-28, 5:34 pm

I have been studying and learning at work myself. I have lots of equipment to setup labs with, so it is more appealing this way. My employer will pay for self study of anything but class training on only what they decide for you. The other is the priceless hands on learning of other products we use like wavespan RF wireless broadband link, VPN, and cabletron equipment...

2001-01-28, 5:41 pm

i happen to work for a company who encourages on the job learning. they encourage innovation and will completely reimburse training and certification expenses. granted, this is not a small company. but any company can think like a small company.

obviously, their interest is vested in the assumption that what i am learning will be used within this company to assist and benefit this company. i have no problem with that mentality.

i actually think in this market of job-hopping, they take large risks training people who might potentially jump ship for the next company, a company who is likely to be a competitor on some level.

but i guess the risks have paid off for the company because they have made it clear that their support of OJL will intensify. in fact, right now they encourage people from various groups to come in early or late for overtime to cross-train and just train in general.

so to me, it looks like my company requires employees to learn on the job.

hope this helps. good luck in convincing management to do the right and logical thing.

2001-01-28, 6:28 pm

I am not excatly sure why the person said what they said but,that person has somewhat of a monopoly on a specific area within the company, I guess they are chosing not to dwell anywhere else and would perfer that no one try to dwell into their monopoly. I see this as a seriuos problem because if that person jumps ship the company will be stuck in a pretty tight jam. I do not think management agrees with the statement that was made, I was just confused as to why they did'nt say anything when it was said? I usually don't hesitate to speak up when I feel like arguing but, I was thinking of other things at the time and it got by me. Now I must decide if I should bring it up again just in case it swayed management, or should I just forget about it with thoughts that management could never be swayed that way.

thanks...all

2001-01-29, 12:05 am

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Originally posted by beenframed:
I am not excatly sure why the person said what they said but,that person has somewhat of a monopoly on a specific area within the company, I guess they are chosing not to dwell anywhere else and would perfer that no one try to dwell into their monopoly. I see this as a seriuos problem because if that person jumps ship the company will be stuck in a pretty tight jam. I do not think management agrees with the statement that was made, I was just confused as to why they did'nt say anything when it was said?


Part of managing is picking your battles carefully; perhaps the manager simply chose not to start a conversation about your coworker's statement of his/her opinion. Seems to me if it's bugging you, you might want to bring it up with the manager just for your own peace of mind.

FWIW,
doctorcisco



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2001-01-29, 8:38 pm

Well sometimes there is an actual policy in place regarding just that, call HR and ask. Then speak to your manager if he encourages your studies ask if you should make it less noticeable because of the co-worker's comments (state so diretly)

I always ask but I also realize that in some jobs it is not encouraged for all staff members. This may be the case where you are.

I am expected to learn in fact I just had to list 2 new technology goals for 2001 to learn. Yet when I study hear I can see some people wonder why _ it is clear on their faces.

But they are not tech support and I am!

Hope this helps,
GalaxyGal
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