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Failed CIW Site Design test
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| caseynrbq 2001-04-26, 10:45 am |
| Hi -
Well, I failed the CIW Site Design test yesterday... 
with a 65%....
(75% is needed to pass).
I did self-study and used the Q&As that were posted here, as well as the study guide and brainbuzz' cramsession and the FreeAcademy.com course (which btw is great, but very incomplete at this time)...
Anyway, I thought I was ready to pass, but now I know I need to study some more before attempting it again. Here's the problem: the scoresheet that the test center gave me doesn't show which areas I need to study up on. (CompTIA's tests always show how well you did in each area, as well as which areas you need to study)...
This really upsets me because @ $125.00 these tests are not exactly cheap.
Can anybody here help me in terms of what I need to study to pass this test? I don't have any money to buy the expensive courseware and take instructor led classes. Need a break!
SasiSan? Cboyles? Anyone?
Thanks 
Diane. | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-26, 11:14 am |
| Man, I know exactly how you feel. Remember I posted almost the same message about 3 weeks ago. I was pissed because I wasted that money and everyone said it was this and this and this. Well, I know this and this and this but the test covered none of this and all of that 
I passed by spending a day at Webmonkey. I printed almost every article in the design section and read it, highlighting and taking notes. I ignored what others told me about what was covered and focused on the questions that I made me go holy sh!! what does that mean on the test.
Now I passed with a 90% next time but remember that the design stuff was my weakness so bringing that up helped me in round two. I still saw a lot of new material in round two. Casey can help you with that stuff. I am still waiting for my course material to come in. I ordered it so I could see what they cover. The problem I saw is that like Microsoft they are looking for their terms. What do they call it in their class? That is why I ordered the book. Like what is a dropdown with Links called. I have seen it called Hyperlink menu and a jump menu... What does prosoft want?
Help us help you, what was the type of questions that made you go, huh? Was it the Navigation stuff, the Design stuff, other programs or was it the XML/CSS???
Remember this -- you only need about 5 more questions to turn the tables... What category do you need to focus on to get that 5?
I will let the Master (casey) add his two cents... I know we both want to help you succeed!!! | |
| Playboy 2001-04-27, 4:11 am |
| Sometimes a failure makes you stronger. Although it doesn't help the pocketbook. Don't focus on not passing, focus on passing it! Haven't taken this one, but I have failed a test or two in my certification journey! It is disappointing, but know that if everything came to us easy then we wouldn't necessarily appreciate it as much. My prayers are with you and keep me posted as to when you pass! | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-27, 9:24 am |
| quote:
Sometimes a failure makes you stronger.
So true!!! I learned a lot about graphics and design. Stuff that actually was interesting even though I had formally sworn off it all.
San... | |
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| Keep plugging away Caseynrbq. I failed the Foundations exam the first time (missed by one question in the HTML Fundamentals). Aced it the second time. It is up next for me. Am currently in the exam study phase. Best of Luck.
RDM. | |
| cboyles 2001-04-29, 3:40 am |
| Listen
Follow SasiSan's Advice, and follow my advice when dealing with this exam. Read every chapter in the 3 books, and Answerthe objective questions at the beginning of each chapter. You will pass by doing that. Trust me I have had hundreds of students pass the same way. Listen to this.... | |
| cboyles 2001-04-29, 3:41 am |
| Listen
Follow SasiSan's Advice, and follow my advice when dealing with this exam. Read every chapter in the 3 books, and Answerthe objective questions at the beginning of each chapter. You will pass by doing that. Trust me I have had hundreds of students pass the same way. Listen to this....
CIW EXAMS ARE BASED OFF OF THE OBJECTIVES SPECIFIED IN THE BOOK!!!..
Thats it. If you know the objectives you know the Exam. REad Read, Write Write....
Good Luck!!!
Casey | |
| caseynrbq 2001-04-29, 5:03 pm |
| Hi -
Just wanted to say a big THANKS to everyone for their helpful suggestions to me. I WILL study more and I WILL re-sit & pass the test next time. I just know it!
If I haven't said it before, I JUST LOVE this forum!!
So, helpful, comforting and encouraging!! I truly appreciate it all!!
Diane. | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-29, 5:53 pm |
| You will pass!!! Here is a guess at one problem though -- you will second guess everything when you go back into that room. Watch out for that!!! Remember only 5 things -- one common thread...
Any thoughts on the area that you had trouble with yet? I posted a poll here and I am thinking about pulling everyone's thoughts together to figure out what needs to be included in the Study Guide here...
I bugged poor Casey with more design questions the night before the test -- even though no one has yet to tell me if 2:1 means you a viewing at 200% or 50%...
Do you know when you are going to test yet? I will take some extra vitamins that day to give you strength | |
| cboyles 2001-04-29, 6:04 pm |
| Hmmm
I am pretty sure that this is when you have 2 versions of the same image open in an editor.... 50% 50%. One does this to view multiple possible versions of an image, IE which exportmode.... JPEG, GIF EXACT, GIF WebSnap ...... would best benifit the image.
I think....
Hmmmmmmmm....
Good Luck!!!!
Casey | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-29, 6:46 pm |
| Man, now I am even more confused!!! Any graphics geeks out there???
This is why I like things like Databases -- it is so much more understandable and factual! | |
| cboyles 2001-04-29, 7:05 pm |
| check out the attached pics. they represent a 1 : 1 relationship, and a 4 : 1 relationship!! They are inside the zip file!!
Casey | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-29, 7:38 pm |
| Man -- I thought they were going to be pics of you... hehehehee
I don't get it though:
Does it mean show 4 copies of the picture?
Or display it as 25% of the original (which is what I would guess...) Show 4 to 1 of the original which means display it at 25%...
Actually, extravert that I am -- I guess it means both... Which makes sense because I guessed the opposite, and failed! | |
| cboyles 2001-04-29, 8:22 pm |
| 4 seperate copies of the same picture. That way you can work on 4 different versions of a solution at the same time to see which one works the best!!
Super C | |
| flyingbird 2001-04-30, 4:36 pm |
| Sorry I am new here, can anyone tell me the question was?
BTW, I am planning to take CIW exam, I will ask lots questions here... | |
| SasiSan 2001-04-30, 5:31 pm |
| Fire away -- and never apologize for asking too many questions!!!
quote:
Originally posted by SasiSan
I bugged poor Casey with more design questions the night before the test -- even though no one has yet to tell me if 2:1 means you a viewing at 200% or 50%...
The question was in the ratio 3:1 (or any ratio) what does it mean?
a. You are viewing the graphic at 33% the original size
b. You are viewing the graphic at 300% the original size
c. You are viewing the graphic at 3000% the original size
d. You are viewing one third of the graphic
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At least that was the latest of all the questions in this conversation. Does that answer your question? | |
| flyingbird 2001-04-30, 10:04 pm |
| Thanks, Sasi
Because I use Fireworks, when I saw the pictures cboyles attached, I thought I may answer the question.
I believe the question itself was very bad worded, I don't think any web graphic desinger will understand it.
I am pretty much sure that was not talking about multiple views in Fireworks, but whitout context, I feel so confused. Normally ratio means width compares height in graphic term.
just my 2 cents. | |
| cboyles 2001-05-01, 12:36 am |
| This question is really starting to bug. I have to teach the New Site Designer cirriculum this week. I will find the answer in the book and post it up here.
This question really bugs. | |
| cboyles 2001-05-01, 12:47 am |
| I looked back at the courseware and at the questions. The Question references how JASC Paint Shop Pro indicates the size of the area viewed in a canvas window. a 2:1 ratio in Paint Shop Pro indicates that you are viewing and area that is enlarged to 200% of the original size. a 7:1 would be an increase of 700%
I thought you guys said these questions were on the new test. Paint shop Pro isn't even referenced in the new courseware. Weak. Soooo Weak. I blame myself mostly. Now I have to drown my sorrows with my friend KArl Strauss.
Casey | |
| SasiSan 2001-05-01, 9:29 pm |
| It's not in the courseware but it is an exam objective???
The exam doesn't mention Paint Shop Pro that I remember... Now you know why I failed the first time out  | |
| cboyles 2001-05-01, 11:07 pm |
| I assume you are all taking 1D0-420 the 420 exam was the same one I took in nov 1999. Now If you took the Site Des anytime between npw, and December of 2000 you took the 5.0 version courseware. New course, old test.......Weak. | |
| SasiSan 2001-05-01, 11:23 pm |
| Wait a minute... The test I saw was nothing like everyone said. They changed the exam objectives around the same time they redid the site. I have a printout of the v4 test that said it covered Fp98... Now the v4 of the test says it covers FP2000.
They did change the test, just not the version number!!! | |
| cboyles 2001-05-01, 11:38 pm |
| But why would a PSP question show up in a new exam? Why is it some of those original odd ball questions you saw your first time up aren't in the courseware? Wierd...... I say.....Uhhh blame Sylvan....Savages : > ) | |
| SasiSan 2001-05-02, 12:52 am |
| I say blame all the CIW Instructors for promising their students they will pass
I am starting to sound like a broken record, they changed the test! They have revived the pool of questions and we just have to stay smarter then they are... Shouldn't be hard
So -- You are saying if you saw a question like the one above, no mention of a specific program, in graphics 3:1 means you are viewing at 300%? | |
| cboyles 2001-05-02, 1:34 am |
| According to the PSP 6 and 7 manuals plus an older copy of the Site Des courseware 3:1 says you are viewing a section of 1 image at 300%.
The wierd thing is this....I have had tons of students pass Site Des, none of them have mentioned any of the questions like the ones that have been brought up in this forum.
Savages. If you feel you need to blame CIW instructors, just remember to leave old Casey here out of the Fray : > )
At this point I no longer will answer any questions about Paint Shop Pro... In fact JASC owes Both Myself, Sasi, and anywone fooled by that lame A** question a large cold beer.
If you all need me I will be in the kitchen drinking coffee.
Night! |
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