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Author CIW Site Designer (1D0-420)

2000-08-28, 9:01 pm

Dear Readers,

According to my conversation with CIW People, we have to upgrade the certification when any one of the exam will retire. Therefore I would like to go for Site Designer v4 but I am unable to retrieve any type of study material for this exam. There is a major difference in this exam version which is this that it includes two new tools which are Dreamweaver & Allaire Homesite. I shall be very much thankful to you if you people can tell me the address of any study resource or provide any other help regarding this exam.

I have tried to locate the study material from many internet resources but didn't find any. I tried to find a book on it but there is no book available. So if any of you know anything about this exam so please do let me know.

I am anxiously waiting for a positive responce from your site.

Thanks and Bye!

Bilal Iqbal
MCSE+I, MCT, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CCNA, CIW Professional

2000-08-29, 12:33 pm

If that's true, I don't like it one bit. If the only difference in the 2 versions is two WYSIWYG editors, then that's a big load of ****. Site design shouldn't really be about types of HTML editors (personally, like msuggs, I use a text based editor **1st Page 2000**), it should be about design concepts, compatibility issues, Internet organization history, HTML versions, page accessibility, bandwidth, and such.. Ya know, like what the v3 exam talks about sans Frontpage and Fusion.

Sure I guess it could be nice to know how to use a WYSIWYG editor for web pages, but you DON'T LEARN HTML that way. They do the work for you, plus anybody can learn those editors if they know how to even use MS Word.

I'd like to see the email they sent you or whatnot from CIW, or something on their web site that says that. But I'll probably won't take the v4 exam, if it is true.

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Adam Romig, A+, i-Net+, CIW P

2000-09-15, 1:15 pm

This is not true, after reading this string I inquired directly with the people at ciwcertified, the responses and questions were straight forward.

Q>If I took Foundations v4 and passed can I take Site Design v3 for certification?

A> Yes

Q> If I take Site Design v3 will I have to re-take this test to keep certified after the exam retires?

A> No.

Q> Will I get a Site Design Certificate for passing the v3 exam.

A> No, just the CIW P since I passed foundations already.

Q> If I take Site Design v4 will I get a certificate for passing.

A> No, just the CIW P Certificate.

Q> Is v4 vendor specific ie, Dreamweaver, and if so, could I expect to take the test after going through v3 course (New Horizons) and expect to pass with a minimum of 83%.

A> The v4 and v3 test both have questions pertaining to the software used during the course. No response to likelihood of passing with an 83%.


I asked the last question because on another string someone complained about failing the test because of all the Dreamweaver questions. So obviously, if you studied v3 material the best thing to do is take the v3 test.

I hope this helps :-)

Dave

2000-09-15, 1:26 pm

When a exam is retired that you have already passed, you DO NOT have to retake the exam!
zack M CIW D

2000-09-16, 8:25 pm

From what I understand, Dreamweaver is not just an editor, but a highly regarded application which allows you to easily add flash content, javascript, vbscript, asp and more! It's kind of like the topshelf of website design apps.
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Originally posted by AdamR:
If that's true, I don't like it one bit. If the only difference in the 2 versions is two WYSIWYG editors, then that's a big load of ****. Site design shouldn't really be about types of HTML editors (personally, like msuggs, I use a text based editor **1st Page 2000**), it should be about design concepts, compatibility issues, Internet organization history, HTML versions, page accessibility, bandwidth, and such.. Ya know, like what the v3 exam talks about sans Frontpage and Fusion.

Sure I guess it could be nice to know how to use a WYSIWYG editor for web pages, but you DON'T LEARN HTML that way. They do the work for you, plus anybody can learn those editors if they know how to even use MS Word.

I'd like to see the email they sent you or whatnot from CIW, or something on their web site that says that. But I'll probably won't take the v4 exam, if it is true.




2000-09-18, 1:46 pm

quote:
Originally posted by luminol:
From what I understand, Dreamweaver is not just an editor, but a highly regarded application which allows you to easily add flash content, javascript, vbscript, asp and more! It's kind of like the topshelf of website design apps.



The editor I use (1st Page) can easily add those things you mentioned, just in the text code form. I've used Dreamweaver before, and it's nice. Personally, I like to develop web sites with a text-based editor. It's more programmer-esque for me.

My point is that getting certified in Site Design shouldn't mean I have know how to use the latest and greatest WYSIWYG application. Great sites can come from writing it all out. Even though I passed the Site Design v3 exam, I have never ever touched NetObjects Fusion before. I've messed with FrontPage a little, but I didn't like it adding stuff to my code and it kept spacing everything wrong.

But that's my opinion and probably doesn't influence CIW's erratta one bit.

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Adam Romig, A+, i-Net+, CIW P

[This message has been edited by AdamR (edited 09-18-2000).]

2000-09-18, 5:20 pm

Dreamweaver is great!! if you know html well
or if you dont. it has a great html editor, so if you dont like something DW has done you can easily fix it. it is a breeze to use
zack
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