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l9nux

2003-10-22, 6:00 pm

Hi,

I'm just 2 exams away from being an MCSE, and I'm really itching to start on the Cisco track (CCNA first). My problem is that I've got two Cisco 2600 routers on my desk just calling out to me, but I've got to concentrate my efforts on the remaining two MCSE elective exams!

I'd be interested to know if there is anyone else in the same boat?
Tech Ranger

2003-10-26, 9:31 am

I am 2 exams away from MCSE. I would like to do some Cisco. However, after I get my MCSE, I plan to do the 2 upgrade exams so that I am not left behind.
adam salam

2003-10-31, 3:07 pm

Hi,
I have got the ccna and I am three steps toward mcse, I am thinking of taking the ccnp, but the problem with it is the difficulty to live in real world scinario, in my ccna it was a little bit easy to get a simulator cd, but in ccnp i think I have to find a real world to live in,

I have sound an old cisco 1900 switch cost Fr 200.

but I need a real cisco router!!!
maxmax79

2003-10-31, 4:08 pm

I have my MCSE and started working on my CCNA (no routers or switches, yet ) but now I am reconsidering doing my CCNA next or doing my upgrade exams for 2003.
l9nux

2003-10-31, 7:54 pm

What do you think is more valuable? Cisco or Microsoft certification?
Tech Ranger

2003-11-01, 8:47 am

Doesn't that depend on the job description?
l9nux

2003-11-01, 8:54 am

Of course it doesn't depend on the JD. I'm talking about the 'real world'... What's most beneficial for me as a person? Specialising in the Cisco (network engineer) side of networking, or specialising in the Microsoft (systems engineer) side of networking?
adam salam

2003-11-01, 10:07 am

quote:
Originally posted by l9nux
Of course it doesn't depend on the JD. I'm talking about the 'real world'... What's most beneficial for me as a person? Specialising in the Cisco (network engineer) side of networking, or specialising in the Microsoft (systems engineer) side of networking?


From my search, I have found that Microsoft certification career in demand more than Cisco, but Cisco is more salary.
curiousgeorge

2003-11-02, 10:59 pm

I got my CCNA over two years ago just to get another cert. To be honest, I thought setting up routers and switches was a little boring.

I like working with network administration issues.

MCSE and CCNA are two different worlds in the US job market. You either work with one or the other. You only work with both if you are in a very small company.

I would stick with MCSE and then go for security certs like security+.

Just my opinion. Hope that helps.
Dude

2003-11-03, 1:37 am

My opinion: Every site has servers and workstations using Microsoft. So, every site needs a network admin. As for your router support, LOTS of places hire it out, or contract it out to an outside source. Plus, now often do you NEED someone with a cisco cert? Sure, it comes along, but you need a Microsoft guy all the time, whereas you NEED a Cisco guy occasionally. So, I would tend to belive that the Microsoft guy would be more valuable in the DEMAND field, whereas the Cisco guy would be more valuable in the MONEY field.
We have a medium size company, with many routers. We contract that router work out, even though I have CCNA and am working on CCNP. They know I have it and choose not to use me for it. Go figure, but its how the real world works when you have IT managers that dont know what the hell is going on, which is about 70-80% of the companies out there.
l9nux

2003-11-07, 6:56 pm

Some interesting comments. I think it's fair to say that either way we go, whether it's Microsoft, Cisco, Novell, or any other certification, it's always moving faster than most of us can keep up.

Those of us that do keep up with the certs will hopefully be in the heart of it all at a good company or be in a good position when looking for employment.

For me personally, I want to gain my MCSE to prove to myself that the 6 years of working with Microsoft networks has given me something I worked hard for, even if it is just a title.

I could continue to peruse the MCSE for 2003, but I like a change so I'll definitely be aiming for a CCNA. I have a lot of respect for those guys, as a friend of mine works for an ISP and has over 1000 routers to keep in order!

How far do you go? At the end of the day we've all got a life! (I hope)
Clangashe

2003-11-17, 8:01 am

Im 3 steps from getting my MCSE. I already have the CCNA and CNA.
As for the CCNA as long as you have a router and switch to play with at home this will keep your skills up.
I've only had to touch routers about 3 times in the past 18 months. These where two emergency cases and a router and switch upgrade.
So was it worth the study, yes because it saved my butt.

As a Network admin or Network Engineer it is worth having this knowledge.

Only problem is that the certs age.
So I took a side step and did the first of the ITIL exams. This doesn't age.

Seriously considering to do the ITIL Professional exam.
l9nux

2003-11-17, 5:16 pm

Whats ITIL? Why doesn't it age? I thought that all certs would age because the technology moves on?
Clangashe

2003-11-18, 3:58 am

ITIL
Information Technology Infrastructure Libary:

It is a set of guide lines on the management on supporting environment infrastructure:

ITIL is about aligning IT Services with business requirements:

Its a set of guidelines (best practice) that can be varied from organisations to organisation

I have found it very informative because it tie's up loose ends that other certs don't mention or touch.
curiousgeorge

2003-11-18, 4:11 am

Sounds like the equivalent of getting certified on the OSI model (that's a joke, btw).
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