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| jkconzone 2002-08-28, 1:34 pm |
| Hi, all.
Am looking for a good MCSE bootcamp. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Am in southeast but can travel and have 3 weeks vacation.
Best Regards
John Conzone
CCIE#6409
CNE 3/4/5 | |
| lardie 2002-08-28, 2:20 pm |
| Is it Really possible to learn the entire MCSE in 3 weeks -- MCP maybe but not MCSE no way are you gonna learn enough in 3 weeks to take 7 exams.
Well not if you wanna become a REAL MCSE and not one of these paper MCSE fools. | |
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| yes it is possible to make the most of a bootcamp provided you are already a network professional and that you have extensive real world experience. If you are a newbie, then a bootcamp is basically a waste of your time... | |
| Zaraspook 2002-08-28, 2:29 pm |
| I think Mr. Conzone has been in the IT industry for quite a number of years now and has probably forgot more than a 100 MCSE paper lions combined!  | |
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| LOL  Very well put! | |
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| you know. 3 weeks, that's 21 days, take 3 days for testing etc, but let's just work with 20 days.
20days x 24 hours 480 hours.
sleep 6 (pretty generous) hours/day =120 hours
2 hours/day eating/showering etc. that's 40, lets say 50
that still leave 300+ hours of studying/reading/etc.
spread that over the course of a typical unaccelerated study, say 3 hours /day, that's 100 days worth of studying... 3+ months.
it is all about experience, going in with a certain level of knowledge, a will to apply oneself (which he does, considering hte ccie). he is cne, he certainly would have little trouble understanding AD, and quite honestly, NOS is just NOS... you just learn the the microsoft things... lots of ppl don't go in to learn, they have already learned, but to be train. very important distinction.
manage time wisely, you can get a lot of stuff done...
note: all that rambling and nope... no idea who has a good mcse bootcamp. | |
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| I agree And since I do not know that area very well, I still can't recommend a CTEC either  | |
| jkconzone 2002-08-28, 3:21 pm |
| Yes, I've been in IT before their was such a thing as a PC. Sounded like one of you knows me!
But I doubt I've forgotten as much as you folks know. Contrary to popular belief, I know from experience that GEN-X'ers are some of the brightest and most talented people around. Thats why I need my MCSE, to keep up with you all!!!!<G>
Anyway, I have done a lot of work on networks and am just wanting to knock out the cert. Believe me, I won't be a paper MCSE.
So, anyone reccomend any bootcamps, or have any experiences with one? Thanks! | |
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| Sounds like you are perfect candidate for a bootcamp. I sat in one for my first MCSE, and it was awesome. I was already an engineer so it showed me the new stuff and the MS specific stuff, and was a great overall experieince. | |
| Pavlov 2002-08-28, 3:59 pm |
| I recently attended one at www.acrew.net. I thought the staff was great. Since you have the time and can travel, why not spend the time there? It's in Colorado. This camp does NOT guarantee that you will pass the exams. This, to me, was one of its selling points. I wanted a place to focus on the task at hand without the distractions of home. At ACREW - you have a room of your own with a T1 connection. In class you have 2 PCs assigned to you. Part of the course includes materials - MS Press Training kit books and Transcender practice exam CD's. During the 14 days of the camp you will go through the labs in the books but not by sitting in the class with an instructor saying "Turn to page 123 and let's do exercise 3.4". You'll just be doing the hands on experimenting in a small networked environment to further reinforce what you're learning.
All in all I thought the camp was great and I got out of it exactly what I expected. I knew going in that I should have more experience for the MCSE but was confident that I would leave with my MCSA, which I did. I continue to further reinforce what I started there and have another pool of resources as well. Stay away from the camps that guarantee you'll pass. These are the ones that usually feed you questions and answers and fall short of quality training.
As stated earlier, boot camps are not for the newbie just entering the field. They are intended for the person who has almost everything they need to pass the tests already and simply lack the time to sit and focus on the certification. | |
| twister166 2002-08-28, 4:54 pm |
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Originally posted by jkconzone
So, anyone reccomend any bootcamps, or have any experiences with one? Thanks!
Try to look at intense school, I boot camped my MCSE2K there, when I needed my MCSE2K with Cisco IP Telephone to qualify my company for Cisco Premier last year.
It is intense, I was two exams short my MCSE 3.51 when I took all seven exams in 14 days. They put the school in the hotel, so you basically sleep, learn and test there. It is the worse 14 days of my life, because the school was local to me and I commuted.
The class starts at 8:00am and stops about 6:00 to 7:00pm, they bring the meals to you. You need to be pretty much experienced and they prequalify you before they let you enroll, because you can sit in for free if you don't get your MCSE... good luck. |
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