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NTFS and Shared Permissions
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| networkman 2002-05-20, 11:35 am |
| From the below answers(a,b,c or d) what is the correct choice for the example asked?
Thanks and Very Best Regards
a)Change permission through the share, change permission locally.
b)No access permission through the share, change permission locally
c)Full control permission through the share, read only permission locally
d)Read only permission through the share,
change permission locally.
The shared "DATA" folder on an NTFS partition is assigned the following permissions -
New Employees-No Access, Accountants-Change, Executive-Full Control.
The local NTFS permissions are as follows -
New Employees-Read Only, Accountants-Read Only, Executives-Change.
You're a member of all three groups. What permissions would you have to the "DATA" folder when accessing the folder through the share and locally? | |
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| if I remember my NTFS permissions correctly the no access over rides all other permissions and you are a member of the New emloyees group whish has no access so i believe all those answers are incorrect
you would have no Access
Ed
A+ Question of the Day Guy
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| Answer should be "B"
Remember that Share permissions only apply when hitting the resource over the network, so in this case you combine Share and NTFS permissions "No Access" (for the New Employees group membership) is going to rule out over anything else.
If you are hitting the resource only locally then Share permission do not apply. Only the NTFS permissions will apply cummulatively. In this case that would be "Change" (from the Executive group membership) | |
| KScheler 2002-05-20, 5:50 pm |
| networkman: Welcome to the forum.
Since you appear to be new here, let me inform you that dump questions are frowned upon here. Read some good books, get hands-on experience, but don't rely on memorizing brain dumps. Many have incorrect answers that will mess you up. | |
| secondskin 2002-05-20, 6:30 pm |
| I would go for B as well. | |
| anthonie 2002-05-20, 8:20 pm |
| Welcome to the forum networkman.
For questions like this, I'd recommend you try them out yourself. Then you'll remember better.
And for this one, I'd agree with Spid. | |
| networkman 2002-05-20, 9:39 pm |
| KScheler - This question is not a braindump,
in fact this question is from 2151 and the students (I being one of them) asked for
clarification from the MCT who is giving the
class and I was hoping to get some support from the forum, maybe I should'nt expect that
from this fourm based on you response. I hope I'm just mistaken. I'm in class for 2151 and the school is a Microsoft Certified Technical Education Center and we are using Microsoft Offical Curriculum for 2151.
Our MCT advised this rule - The most restrictive will apply when share and NTFS
are combined. So he advised the correct answer is (a).
But we (the students) still had some trouble
following his explanation.
Sorry of if I violated any fourm rules but I will continue to search out the correct answer until further notice. Even MCT's do not always know the correct answer.
Thanks and Very Best Regards
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| Sevenk 2002-05-21, 10:30 am |
| Excuse the 'kindagarden' explanation, but it may help understanding:
Think of accessing a file through a share as walking into a room through two doors. If you have permission to walk through the first door (the share), you still have to get through the second door (NTFS).
If the first door lets you in, but the second won't, you can't get into the room.
If you can't get through the first door, then it doesn't matter what the second door does, as you'll never get to it.
And if you are accessing the file locally (not via the share), there is only one door (NTFS), so only those rules apply.
I hope this makes sense.
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Originally posted by networkman
Our MCT advised this rule - The most restrictive will apply when share and NTFS
are combined. So he advised the correct answer is (a).
But we (the students) still had some trouble
following his explanation.
Even MCT's do not always know the correct answer.
Thanks and Very Best Regards
The MCT is correct in his general statemnet of most restrictive permission applying when Share and NTFS permissions are applyed to a resource, but in this case I would have to disagree with him. No access (via the New Employees group which you are a member of) puts the whammy on accessing the resource regardless of the other permissions that are assigned via the other group memberships.
When accessing the resource over the network, we combine Share (cummulatively) and NTFS permissions (cummulatively) and then the most restrictive out of those cummulative permissions apply. Except for No Access which wins out over anything.
When accessing the resource locally, NTFS permissions are the only ones that are applied (cummulatively) to the resource. Except for No Access which wins out over anything.
The comment of MCT's no always being correct is very true. I've had good MCT's and lousy MCT's.
Also, in general, forum members need to lighten up a little with respect to someone posting a single question that looks like a dump question. I do not recall seeing this question on any exam I've taken. There seems to be a general growing trend in these forums to do the old "Fire, Ready, Aim" scenario. I for one, am starting to get a little tired of it. This is not being directed at anyone in particluar, it just a general observation/complaint on my part. My apologizes if anyone is offended.
Networkman, I hope your first impression of this forum was not too negative. | |
| KScheler 2002-05-21, 12:07 pm |
| Networkman and all others:
I'm sorry if I came on too strong but sometimes there are questions posted that seem to come from the dumps. My apologies.
Spid is correct in his answer. Your instructor should have been able to clarify this. Good luck with your studies and do feel free to ask for advise. | |
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Originally posted by KScheler
Networkman and all others:
I'm sorry if I came on too strong but sometimes there are questions posted that seem to come from the dumps. My apologies.
A perfect example of just why this forum rocks! |
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