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| Paisleyskye 2001-07-17, 5:37 pm |
| What Is This?????
http://www.microsoft.com/trainingan...ubSite=articles
Is it just me or does this make anyone else's blood boil??? Apparently now they are going to water down the MCSE, and are developing some new "Expert" certs that will probably be worth more.
Linux and the CIW are looking better everyday!!! | |
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| yeah, I heard about that.. I am not too sure what I think about it yet as there are not an awful lot of details available at this point. As for CIW and Linux, they are such different and unrelated certs, that I am not too sure that MS's new certs would push me in their direction. I am interested in both as parallel tracks, not as a replacement soluition... | |
| Buddtholomew 2001-07-17, 8:19 pm |
| I am a little concerned about the introduction of this new certification. From what I have read at the Microsoft site and from comments here and there, the administration track would address scenarios that an administrator would encounter on a regular business day.
Those critics who acribe to the philosophy that the MCSE exams do not prepare students for the "real" world, will use this cert to fuel their arguement and position. Holding this certification may bring hiring managers additional confidence in the their employees' ability to do day to day tasks. However, where will the MCSE certification fall into all of this? This remains to be seen. | |
| TW2001 2001-07-17, 8:40 pm |
| Someone posted a press release or something that actual explains the situation pretty well.If this is indeed the intention.Or is this the way to push people through the Windows 2000 tracks so everydody can start working on XP?
Oh yeah before somebody jumps in and points me to a link that describes how "the XP exams will be interchangeable and there will be no need to upgrade.." Think about how MS operates.What drives their software? Marketing.This isnt about restoring respect and making it more real world specific.Its about marketing. | |
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| quite frankly, there is a big difference between being a network administrator and a network engineer, and I see this new track as examplifying this difference. I am not overly alarmed about it so far... | |
| TW2001 2001-07-17, 9:11 pm |
| MCSE=Network engineer? | |
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| It never ends does it????? Then again, I suppose i'd be bored if I had nothing to do!! | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-07-18, 6:36 am |
| It's going to be interesting to see how this goes. The way I see it is that Microsoft is trying to structure their program similar to Cisco's certification program which could be a good thing.
MCP = CCNA
New cert = CCNP
MCSE = CCIE
The big problem that I see is how long will it take to catch on. Some may disagree, but a large majority of recruiters are only familiar with a few certifications (MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCIE, CNA, CNE, and A+) and those are the ones that they look for on resumes/applications. They do not keep with with the latest "in" certification. They are looking for certifications that are relevant to the position they are hiring.
It is going to be interesting to see how Microsoft develops the new system administrator cert to fit in with the MCSE. I personally think that since the new cert is supposed to be less exams (probably 3-5) that more people will pursue it instead of the MCSE and then I have a feeling that the MCSE standards will be raised (again)to make it more "competetive" on the level of the CCIE so-to-speak.
BD | |
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Originally posted by Bobby Digital
It is going to be interesting to see how Microsoft develops the new system administrator cert to fit in with the MCSE. I personally think that since the new cert is supposed to be less exams (probably 3-5) that more people will pursue it instead of the MCSE and then I have a feeling that the MCSE standards will be raised (again)to make it more "competetive" on the level of the CCIE so-to-speak.
BD
I tend to agree. | |
| Gareth Leung 2001-07-18, 10:53 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Digital
It's going to be interesting to see how this goes. The way I see it is that Microsoft is trying to structure their program similar to Cisco's certification program which could be a good thing.
MCP = CCNA
New cert = CCNP
MCSE = CCIE
The big problem that I see is how long will it take to catch on. Some may disagree, but a large majority of recruiters are only familiar with a few certifications (MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCIE, CNA, CNE, and A+) and those are the ones that they look for on resumes/applications. They do not keep with with the latest "in" certification. They are looking for certifications that are relevant to the position they are hiring.
It is going to be interesting to see how Microsoft develops the new system administrator cert to fit in with the MCSE. I personally think that since the new cert is supposed to be less exams (probably 3-5) that more people will pursue it instead of the MCSE and then I have a feeling that the MCSE standards will be raised (again)to make it more "competetive" on the level of the CCIE so-to-speak.
BD
Agreed.  | |
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Originally posted by TW2001
MCSE=Network engineer?
Yup, especially now with the design exams... | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Digital
The big problem that I see is how long will it take to catch on. Some may disagree, but a large majority of recruiters are only familiar with a few certifications (MCP, MCSE, CCNA, CCIE, CNA, CNE, and A+) and those are the ones that they look for on resumes/applications. They do not keep with with the latest "in" certification. They are looking for certifications that are relevant to the position they are hiring.
BD
I tend to agree as well  |
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