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Is it worth finishing the NT4.0 MCSE?
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| tragic_comedy 2001-05-01, 12:14 pm |
| I have the 4 core NT exams out of the way with just the 2 electives to go but I am wondering if it is worth the effort since the NT 4.0 is going away in December. Should I just go ahead and take the 240 exam or finish out the NT and work towards 2 MCSE's? Any suggestions would be appreciated. | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-01, 1:03 pm |
| Concentrate on the 240 exam at this point. You have the basic knowledge to handle NT. Start learning 2000 now. | |
| rctechy 2001-05-02, 10:37 am |
| You might as well bail out now. The W2K stuff is just enough different that you should get to studying it instead of winnt4. One good thing to know is network estentials or something to do with IP addressing and general networking.
regards
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| Mudslide 2001-05-13, 9:42 pm |
| If you already got the 4 exams then you lose nothing. The electives are the same for NT4 as they are for 2000. Take the 2 electives first, then take the 240. All you need to do is beat the timeframe, then you can brag that you were an NT4 MCSE as well. | |
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| absolutely! Finish it if you can! | |
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| I'm also debating whether or not I should just complete my MCSE NT4 now by taking two older electives- 70-088 Proxy 2 & 70-081 Exchange Server 5.5 (which I know also count as MCSE 2K electives) or if I should just forget about obtaining MCSE NT4 and move into the New Windows 2000 Arena with new electives like 70-227 ISA, 70-224 Exchange 2K, or maybe SQL2K (and newer techonology).
I only have to the end of '01 to pass the 70-240 Win2K Accelerated anyway. Do you think it's worth racing to get the old MCSE when it's just going to retire by the time I have MCSE 2K?
My immediate goal is to have the necessary experience to provide small businesses with full solutions based on Microsoft's BackOffice Small Business Server.
Microsoft is very generous in helping other companies sell & deploy their products for obvious reasons, but they don't want to promote (or support) NT4 any longer.
Most all of Microsoft's training and rollout paths (Action Packs, Partner guides, ect.) are based on their latest techonlogies.
Check it out for yourself at: http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/ (go to "Training and Tools")
I saw that MCSE FREAK approved of finsishing MCSE NT4. Why? | |
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| I'm also debating whether or not I should just complete my MCSE NT4 now by taking two older electives- 70-088 Proxy 2 & 70-081 Exchange Server 5.5 (which I know also count as MCSE 2K electives) or if I should just forget about obtaining MCSE NT4 and move into the New Windows 2000 Arena with new electives like 70-227 ISA, 70-224 Exchange 2K, or maybe SQL2K (and newer techonology).
I only have to the end of '01 to pass the 70-240 Win2K Accelerated anyway. Do you think it's worth racing to get the old MCSE when it's just going to retire by the time I have MCSE 2K?
My immediate goal is to have the necessary experience to provide small businesses with full solutions based on Microsoft's BackOffice Small Business Server.
Microsoft is very generous in helping other companies sell & deploy their products for obvious reasons, but they don't want to promote (or support) NT4 any longer.
Most all of Microsoft's training and rollout paths (Action Packs, Partner guides, ect.) are based on their latest techonlogies.
Check it out for yourself at: http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/ (go to "Training and Tools")
I saw that MCSE FREAK approved of finsishing MCSE NT4. Why? | |
| freak 2001-05-23, 10:01 am |
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Originally posted by Cozy
I saw that MCSE FREAK approved of finsishing MCSE NT4. Why?
Because I like to finish what I start, because 2K is built on top of 2K, because most shops will run either NT or Mixed mode for a while, because 2 MCSEs is better than one -- even though MS does not recognize "multiple" MCSEs, etc....
I do believe that it is a great idea to do so. | |
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| Thanks, for helping me make up my mind MCSE Freak. I appreciate and respect your advice. If I start now I should be able to beat the deadline. I can't loose either way right? What do you think?
I recently picked up all the latest Smart Force CBT for Windows 2000 (including the accelerated track), Troytech Study Guides for Win2K (with 240), Exam Essentials 5.5, Measure UP, and tomorrow I'm going to order some new hardware to upgrade my existing 8 node home NT4 network to Win2K.
The thing I liked so much about NT4, other than the fact I was used to it, was that it ran great on all my older Pentium Systems. Now I have to swap out the Motherboards, Processors, and Memory to perform well with Windows 2000 (BLOAT). Guess I'm going AMD!
I also ordered the Partner Guides from Microsoft yesterday for Small Business Server 2000 and Windows 2000 Server. I'll let the group know if it was worth the money or not. I'm also thinking about becoming a Microsoft Certified Partner. Do you think it's worth the $1400? Do you know if the benefits are the same or better than the Action Pack Subscription (as far a MS S/W for staging and internal use goes)?
Thanks,
Steve
P.S.
I remember a few years ago when I first started coming to examnotes.com, boy have they made leaps and bounds since then with the design and functionality of their website! It really is amazing. | |
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| I would say depend on your situation. Do your job required to know NT or Win2000?
It is good to finish up what you start, but sometime subject to change. Think carefully! | |
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| I finished my MCSE 4.0 in 3 weeks, and my MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks, so yes you probably can beat the deadline. What MCPs do you already have for 4.0?
I do not know much about the MS Partner thing, so I cannot comment.
And by the way, you are right, you cannot lose!
Win2K is a great OS. I am very fond of it  | |
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| I completed the MCPs for the four Core (70-073, 70-067, 70-068, 70,058). Now I'm thinking about what two electives I should take to complete my MCSE 4.0 that will also apply effectively to my MCSE 2K (I have the upgrade voucher for 70-240). I have been thinking about doing Proxy 2.0 (70-088) and Exchange Server 5.5 (70-081). I've heard that Exchange Server 5.5 was more difficult to pass than the others. What do you think?
Out of the four exams I found NT 4 Enterprise to be the most challenging. What did you think of it?
Did you pass the Accelerated for Win2K?
It's amazing that you passed those exams so quickly! Was it experience, genius, studying day and night or all of the above?
Seriously, how did you do it? | |
| freak 2001-05-24, 12:21 pm |
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Originally posted by Cozy
I completed the MCPs for the four Core (70-073, 70-067, 70-068, 70,058). Now I'm thinking about what two electives I should take to complete my MCSE 4.0 that will also apply effectively to my MCSE 2K (I have the upgrade voucher for 70-240). I have been thinking about doing Proxy 2.0 (70-088) and Exchange Server 5.5 (70-081). I've heard that Exchange Server 5.5 was more difficult to pass than the others. What do you think?
Out of the four exams I found NT 4 Enterprise to be the most challenging. What did you think of it?
Did you pass the Accelerated for Win2K?
It's amazing that you passed those exams so quickly! Was it experience, genius, studying day and night or all of the above?
Seriously, how did you do it?
Proxy and Exchange are both great choices. Neither is all that difficult, but I recommend a lot of hands-on for both exams.
Enterprise was also the one I found the most challenging.
No I took all 4 core individually: 210, 215, 217 and then 216
Yup, when I study, that is all I do, usually my days are about 20 hours. I am blessed with not needing much sleep, and with a boss who is cool enough to let me stay home and study for weeks | |
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| That settles it. Thanks for the inspiration MCSE Freak! |
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