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| nitro 2001-03-19, 11:37 am |
| I'm currently attending a 2yr school that combines certs with your degree. The second year track that I want to take maps to Windows 2000 MCSE. As you all know Microsoft is retiring the NT-MCSE which upset alot of current holders of that cert. Now there getting ready to release "XP" and already talking about upgrading the MCSE (one test) to XP. I think you see where I'm heading, what's the point of working your butt off for an MCSE if they keep retiring your cert? Even from a practical standpoint it doesn't make sense, for example if you're adminstering an NT or 2000 network and MS comes out with XP and your company is happy with NT or 2000 why would you need to upgrade your cert? I do agree that you should keep your certification current but NT has been out for about 6yrs. 2000 is just getting a foothold and here we go again! Businesses are not going to be strung along like drug addicts by MS. Most businesses believe if it ain't broke don't fix it! Businesses don't jump on Network OSes the way consumers jump on desktop OSes. Anyways I wonder if anybody has any insight into this or am I looking at it all wrong? | |
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| Those with the MCSE 2000 cert will not have to upgrade to XP,As far As I know XP uses the same kernel and is very similar so Microsoft will not make you upgrade yet again... For a little while yet anyway. | |
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| In my opinion, there comes a point of overkill when Microsoft releases XP later this year. A lot of corporations are finally starting to accept Windows 2000 as a network OS and actually seeing how well it performs. Personally, I feel that it leaves NT in the dust. However, it puzzles me that a year later they are going to release XP. My only reasoning is to get the .Net stuff rolling especially with all the DOJ issues they are dealing with.
Are they going to "force" everyone to upgrade their MCSE from 2000 to XP? In two words, "Hell no"! (excuse the language). It would kill the MCSE program that they are trying to restructure. Think about it, if you knew that you have to recertify after a new OS release which included taking several exams, would you pursue that certification? | |
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| I think people are missing the point with XP, this is not a New OS in the sense of comparing it to Windows 2000, It is so Similar that people will not need to upgrade from 2k to XP. Instead of people being nervous about XP, They should look into it more and would then be more understanding on what M$ is doing.
I understand the frustration of having to upgrade, But in my eyes only makes the cert more valuable. | |
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| From what I have read, the XP is supposed to be more application friendly in a desktop environment. There are issues with .net, and MS is planning not to incorporate Netbeui in this release. How that will make it more application friendly, I don't know. Especially apps that rely on netbios. Like Daviet said....You are not supposed to have to recertify on XP. I got that from an MCT, that is supposed to have the latest MS info. | |
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| Thanks for the input guys, I think you would agree that most of will work our butts off for something worthwhile. But with things changing so rapidly I think you need to keep your eyes open so you don't end up on a dead end. How many people are working on their "CNE's" right now? Either way I appreciate the input and like the rest of you hope that MS, Comptia, and others will maintain the value and integrity of their certifications.
Nitro | |
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Originally posted by sablackspot
You are not supposed to have to recertify on XP. I got that from an MCT, that is supposed to have the latest MS info.
Well, you just heard it from another MCT: No, you will not have to upgrade from 2K to XP  | |
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| If you are not ready to upgrade/update and progress. You are in the wrong field! IT is a constant progression. F.Y.I as far as business being strung along like drug addicts, you think leading companies want outdated solutions? Its all about pushing the limits. Its hard to stay on top. If you dont your toast...
The certifications are designed to train and update IT professionals skills(ie people in the feild). Although they can be used to gain entry to the feild.Most of us certainly do not have the luxury of waiting two years for updating skill sets. | |
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Originally posted by TW2001
If you are not ready to upgrade/update and progress. You are in the wrong field! IT is a constant progression. F.Y.I as far as business being strung along like drug addicts, you think leading companies want outdated solutions? Its all about pushing the limits. Its hard to stay on top. If you dont your toast...
The certifications are designed to train and update IT professionals skills(ie people in the feild). Although they can be used to gain entry to the feild.Most of us certainly do not have the luxury of waiting two years for updating skill sets.
Very True! I could not agree more | |
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| DOn't worry! When it come, we will know. | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by TW2001
If you are not ready to upgrade/update and progress. You are in the wrong field! IT is a constant progression. F.Y.I as far as business being strung along like drug addicts, you think leading companies want outdated solutions? Its all about pushing the limits. Its hard to stay on top. If you dont your toast...
The certifications are designed to train and update IT professionals skills(ie people in the feild). Although they can be used to gain entry to the feild.Most of us certainly do not have the luxury of waiting two years for updating skill sets.
Its not "all" about pushing the limits. The majority of companies in this country, F.Y.I, are slow to upgrade their networks. Every net tech can't work for IBM or Intel, some of them work for school districts, grocery chains, and small businesses. Furthermore if you think that working full-time, going to school full-time at night, working on various certifications, and raising a family is a luxury, then you're in the wrong field because you don't have the people skills that it will take to survive. | |
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You either know or you dont. I prefer to stay on top.Im more familiar with the private sector. So I cant really speak about grocery stores and schools. Soft skills are important as well. I think my comments were directed to an assumption that training and development is not a continual process.
Look Im not discussing my personal life here...
But I understand the demands you mentioned. Dealing with all that is simply a part of life.
Im sure most professionals would understand and agree. |
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