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microsoft has evidently decided to not decertify NT4 MCSE`s
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| chodan 2001-10-11, 8:20 am |
| I got this email this morning.
if true it would be awsome.
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Cramsession News Flash:
Microsoft Makes Sweeping Changes To Its Certification Program
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(10/11/01) - Cramsession has learned that Microsoft will make a
public announcement today that will radically change the shape
of its existing certification program.
The biggest bombshell: MCSEs certified on the Windows NT 4.0
track will NOT be de-certified after December 31, 2001, as was
previously indicated. Instead, Microsoft is going to recognize
two distinct MCSE categories: "MCSEs on Microsoft Windows 2000"
and "MCSEs on Windows NT 4.0".
Microsoft is also introducing a new certification, the
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator, or MCSA. A new
Microsoft exam is being created for this certification track,
Exam 70-218, Managing a MS Windows 2000 Network Environment.
Here is a list of the valid certifications that will be
recognized by Microsoft under its new certification policy:
* MCSE on Windows 2000
* MCSE on Windows NT 4.0
* MCDBA on SQL Server 2000
* MCSD
* MCSE+I on Windows NT 4.0
* MCP+I on Windows NT 4.0
* MCP+Site Building
* MCP
Microsoft is also extending the deadline for Microsoft Certified
Trainers (MCTs) to achieve their "MCSE on Windows 2000". MCTs
will now have until May 1, 2002 to get their Win2K MCSEs. This
deadline was originally set for December 31, 2001.
To get the latest information on Microsoft's new certification
policies, visit the MS Training & Certification home page at:
http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices
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| Wilbur 2001-10-11, 9:52 am |
| Now all those paper MCSE's are still valid. I guess they are going the way of A+ once an MCSE then always an MCSE. I will finish up the W2k track but will not be putting myself through this again for a cert that is loosing value. What a Bite. | |
| Webmaster 2001-10-11, 9:58 am |
| I'm sick of seeing this rumor all over the Internet. Where is the official announcement from Microsoft?
Give me the link to Microsoft website that would confirm that. | |
| chodan 2001-10-11, 11:10 am |
| Well it says microsoft is supposed to announce it today but I haven`t seen it yet either.
I think that this will make the 2K cert more valid as compared to NT4.
Neither will stop the Paper certified from getting in though, the only way to do that is to start Practical lab based exams like CCIE or RHCE has.
Chodan | |
| Kasor 2001-10-11, 11:52 am |
| I didn't see it yet.. anyone .. | |
| Gareth Leung 2001-10-11, 12:01 pm |
| From Microsoft Website:
Microsoft Enhances its Certification Program to Address Market Needs
The Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) program is expanding its credentials and modifying its policies to respond to industry demands and customer feedback. Historically, the MCP program has required certified individuals to meet certification upgrade requirements to remain certified. This program requirement met the needs of candidates who support organizations that were moving to the latest Microsoft technologies.
The MCP program has conducted recent customer research indicating that current IT environment and industry needs vary widely. In the past two years since Microsoft introduced the Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) track in Microsoft Windows 2000, many candidates as well as their employers expressed concerns with the MCP program’s continuing certification policy. They have clearly indicated that they manage heterogeneous IT environments and therefore need to identify skills on current as well as previous versions of the Windows platform. Furthermore, they recognize that the skills required for designing and implementing a Windows 2000 environment are significantly different from the skills required for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0; therefore, they want to be able to identify individuals certified on Windows NT 4.0 while the product is still part of their IT environment.
To address this need, the MCP program will replace its continuing certification policy with a plan to recognize multiple, distinct versions of its credentials simultaneously. Microsoft will begin identifying certifications with the operating system or architecturally significant platform associated with the credentials’ core exams. This policy change will allow the ongoing recognition of credentials for as long as they are in demand, while still providing a means to differentiate individuals who have updated their skills to the latest Microsoft technologies.
A key result of this change is that Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers on Windows NT 4.0 will remain certified after December 31, 2001, contrary to previous announcements. MCSEs on Windows2000, Windows XP, and Windows .NET Server will be identified as Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers on Microsoft Windows 2000. MCSEs on Windows NT 4.0 will be identified as Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers on Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 These identifying titles will appear on certificates, transcripts, and other tools so that candidates will be able to indicate the specific area of expertise represented by their certification.
In addition, individuals certified as Microsoft Certified Database Administrator on Windows NT 4.0, Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer + Internet, Microsoft Certified Professional + Internet, Microsoft Certified Professionals + Site Building, and Microsoft Certified Professionals will also remain certified. Please see the Frequently Asked Questions for more details about how these certifications will be identified.
Exceptions are individuals who have already been decertified; those who have not upgraded to the current tracks of their respective certifications will remain decertified.
Please see the Frequently Asked Questions for more information about these significant changes.
http://www.microsoft.com/trainingan...ubSite=articles | |
| chodan 2001-10-11, 12:23 pm |
| Gareth
Your awsome
In a totally heterosexual kind of way.hehe
Chodan | |
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| russck 2001-10-11, 1:44 pm |
| Microsoft is also introducing a new certification. MCSA. MCSA is a step above MCP and a step below MCSE. To obtain this, you must pass 3 core exams and 1 elective exam. The catch is that only 3 of these are in both MCSE and MCSA tracks. You must take exam 70-218 to obtain this cert. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...CPUpdatesPR.asp | |
| usnretired 2001-10-12, 6:36 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by russck
Microsoft is also introducing a new certification. MCSA. MCSA is a step above MCP and a step below MCSE. To obtain this, you must pass 3 core exams and 1 elective exam. The catch is that only 3 of these are in both MCSE and MCSA tracks. You must take exam 70-218 to obtain this cert. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...CPUpdatesPR.asp
Unfortunately, that exam will not be available until January 2002. 
Check here for details. | |
| chodan 2001-10-12, 7:32 am |
| That is true, but people can still be working on the cert though with the other tests. Those who already have the other tests behind them won’t have to wait long as January isn’t to far off.
One thing that strikes me "other than my wife" is Microsoft is going to use 2 Comptia certifications in lieu of the elective exam.
Another thing that I have considered is when I put MCSE NT4 AND MCSE Windows 2000 on my resume I can present myself as an industry veteran “NT4” and also someone who is current with technology “Win2K”.
I think it will be a positive thing overall for IT people.
Chodan | |
| TW2001 2001-10-12, 5:15 pm |
| "Unfortunately, that exam will not be available until January 2002".
Check here for details.
Its all about the marketing.You dont really think that this was a spur of the moment decision do you?(General question)
If you do...you proably believe that "640k is enough memory for anyone."
Im trying to figure out where being in the middle of MCP and MCSE would put someone?
One thing is for sure the training centers will soak it up with a biscuit.After all that is who is benefiting. | |
| usnretired 2001-10-12, 5:40 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by TW2001
Im trying to figure out where being in the middle of MCP and MCSE would put someone?
In a much lower paying position than a full MCSE and not necessarilly higher payed than an MCP. |
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