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| Win XP is almost real to hit the market, and we heard many thing! All I know that WIN XP will be one the most complication and difficult OS to troubleshoot....
Now MCSE coming XP version, soon .. XP v1, v2,.... an.....d.
We are going to have fun to troubleshoot XP!
Stay cool | |
| dentonb2000 2001-08-07, 7:37 pm |
| I have been using WinXP RC1 and RC2 for the last couple of weeks, and I can say this, get past the eye candy and still pretty much 2k. | |
| Wilbur 2001-08-07, 9:57 pm |
| Really? Wow from what I have been reading Companies are planning to stay away in droves. I think Gates may have put a shotgun to his foot and is about to pull the trigger.
All kidding aside the deal of having to reregister every time you change the hardware on your own machine is driving away people. Personally I won't load it because of that. Sorry but I think it is a invasion of privacy.  Just my opinon.
On the good side if it blows up as much as ME does well thats just more fun for us W2K folks  | |
| dentonb2000 2001-08-09, 11:02 am |
| XP is based upon the 2K kernel, very stable thus far.
As far as the regworm, I do agree that MS had gone to far but for the most part, corporations will not have to deal with the regworm as it is meant basically for home users and single user licenses. | |
| Wilbur 2001-08-09, 8:18 pm |
| Format and load 98 he he or better yet Linux | |
| chunder 2001-08-11, 9:36 am |
| i just read an article stating that XP has no built in support for Java, ie, no JVM.
your thoughts? | |
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| Can't used Netscape!!!!
Microsoft still want to dominate the internet broswer. They will get another lawsuit from the DOJ.. | |
| TW2001 2001-08-12, 10:51 am |
| "XP is based upon the 2K kernel, very stable thus far".
Well what did they change in the XP kernel.I am not finding the same stability in my testing. | |
| Deja-vue 2001-08-18, 11:03 am |
| I have used Windows XP with several Browsers,IE 6,Netscape,even Opera :-)
No Problems.... | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-08-18, 11:49 am |
| I'm gonna continue to use Windows 2000, but I am looking at other alternatives such as the Mac OS and linux.
Macs are good except they cost an arm and a leg.
Linux is good, but would be better if someone would create a "consumer" distribution that was not bloated with a bunch of untilities that you do not necessarily need.
BD | |
| TW2001 2001-08-18, 1:29 pm |
| If you dont want the utilities dont install them.If you need to customize the OS to your level of satisfaction re-compile the kernel.All distro`s allow you to choose what you want or dont want.Unfortunately most people are not willing to take the time to even look into how to make Linux function.Most cant even get past the install.
Linux is so efficient.You need to know what to load and when to do it.It is a REAL multitasking OS. | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-08-18, 5:43 pm |
| I have done that withe the distributions I have used, BUT the average consumer is not willing to do so. Sometimes, that is what we (techies) fail to look at.
BD | |
| TW2001 2001-08-19, 6:32 am |
| Bloat? I dont think so. | |
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| It might need to get deep into the programming concept... complie, bud, work, PLEASE WORK... | |
| stefanw 2001-08-30, 7:57 am |
| Some versions of Linux like Redhat and Mandrake have been fairly straight forward for the average use to use and install. Being an open community, and listening to what people want, things can only get more user friendly, more advanced and more capable. I think there is a good future with open source products such as Linux, and Microsoft wont be able to maintain their hold on the market as more people tire of licence fees and get more adventerous with their plaform decisions.
Only time will tell . . . | |
| dentonb2000 2001-09-01, 11:44 am |
| I have been using Linux since the 2.0.x kernel days, although the kernel is extremely efficient, the desktop war still flames on. I just recently installed Mandrake 8.0 on a machine that normal runs W2K, hands down, 2K ran better. I like both linux and the BSD's and they are great as servers/firewalls but just don't think it is quite ready for "my" desktop.
I guess that I am one of the lucky ones in which XP proves to be an improvement.
BTW: My firewall is a linus 2.2.19 kernel. | |
| EBlend 2001-09-12, 6:54 pm |
| well XP is like win2k for kids, i have dual booted it with my win2k, and damn i never even use it, its just there in case i have time to play around
win2k is way more down to business | |
| dentonb2000 2001-09-13, 7:21 pm |
| To each his own, I find XP to be a great and fascinating product, must be the kid at heart thing. After playing with unixes all day, I need something *fun*.
Denton
MCSE | |
| dentonb2000 2001-09-13, 7:22 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by dentonb2000
I have been using Linux since the 2.0.x kernel days, although the kernel is extremely efficient, the desktop war still flames on. I just recently installed Mandrake 8.0 on a machine that normal runs W2K, hands down, 2K ran better. I like both linux and the BSD's and they are great as servers/firewalls but just don't think it is quite ready for "my" desktop.
I guess that I am one of the lucky ones in which XP proves to be an improvement.
BTW: My firewall is a linus 2.2.19 kernel.
BTW, that should have read Linux 2.2.19 but has since been upgraded to 2.4.9 with iptables.
Have a good one. | |
| TW2001 2001-09-14, 4:35 pm |
| Dentonb, When you say "hands down 2K ran better than Mandrake 8.0" in what regard.Could you clarify? | |
| dentonb2000 2001-09-14, 6:28 pm |
| On the same exact hardware, using hdparm to tweak the drive perfomance, using ext2 (default, might try reisorfs later), performance was significantly less on the Mandrake system. I removed all irrelavant software from Mandrake, disabled all unnecessary services and still no significant performance gain. This was not scientific mind you, just my observation. I still use Mandrake, just not as my primary OS, yet.
Spec on the system is.
CeleronII / 566mhz
256M PC-100
10gb ATA/66
Promise ATA66 controller (onboard)
3dfx Voodoo3 PCI 16MB
Again, I reiterate, I am in no way bashing Linux. I have been a user since 98 with the 2.0.x kernels and will continue to use and support Linux and OSS. This is just my observation that it is still not ready for mainstream desktop deployment unless you have a lot of time on your hands for individual tweaking/training.
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My thoughts are with those that lost loved ones, your are in my thoughts. Good night. | |
| TW2001 2001-09-14, 9:55 pm |
| I was looking for something a little more statistical based on different perf/counters.
Comparisons should not be looked upon as "bashing".Ive yet to use mandrake.Ive been told its the most unser friendly version there is.CalderaE desktop is very user friendly also.
Linux will proably never be a point and click OS.Although with RH you have RPM manager/bindconf etc etc.... | |
| dentonb2000 2001-09-15, 5:50 am |
| Sorry, nothing statistical to offer. Initial boot time is faster, just seemed that application load time was slower. Tried applications in KDE(env), Gnome(env), and just WindowMaker and Sawfish (window managers). Applications like Netscape and Mozilla, perfomance was horrible. Start Office loads slower than MS Office....again, just my observations. | |
| Mitch1301 2001-09-23, 1:13 pm |
| Been running the beta for some time now and haven’t had any problems. I do like if you install a program or download something with an extension unknown to the OS it will try and find a website with info on that file extension for you. Also XP doesn’t like some programs, so far mine hates Easy CD Creator. Also tried some others that it didn’t like. Been installing everything I can get my hands on just to see how the OS reacts, so far its not that bad. I don’t see any companies lining up to buy the latest and so called greatest MS product.
Thats my 0.02 on the subject.
Mitch | |
| el duderino 2001-09-24, 9:43 pm |
| Just to reiterate a bit--get past the new interface and XP is basically 2K. XP does start up and shut down dramatically faster than any of my 2K machines. I do like the 'switch user' ability too. I have only set up two XP machines, but I didn't think that it was really any easier to install/set up than 2000--although I think it's plug and play is better, but I have no hard proof on that. So far, I have not found any software that I had on a 2000 machine that didn't work on XP. EZCD Creator by itself--no Direct CD, etc.--works fine, but I haven't tried Nero yet. BTW, I'm using Pro--haven't tried the Home version yet.
Dude | |
| stefanw 2001-09-26, 7:58 am |
| For me personaly I wont be using XP. I will however, use it in a profesional point of view so I can troubleshoot problems effectively. | |
| mcp_mcse 2001-09-26, 11:28 am |
| Win2k is the best
Jack | |
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| XP will be out by 10/25/01
Who will buy it? Come on ....
Full ver cost $199.99 and upgrade is $99.99
ME is a problem but it give us the freedom to move hardware around.
XP is stable and nice CGI, however it lack of personal end user support and need to make many phone call. XP will increase the job of support but do we really want it.
Job or trouble and less of freedom!!!! | |
| TW2001 2001-09-27, 5:39 pm |
| I have been testing the enteprise (XP pro) gold code for a week.I have to say its quite an improvement.Its extremely bloated though! Good thing ram is so cheap right now.It still has bugs(suprise suprise) especially in a lot of the com+ routines and calls.Monitoring and analysis are also improved.Pretty much 2K though.
I think the home market will be a hit for this.Its super smooth eye-candy,interface will make end users drool all over their monitor.Its going to be a lot more stable than any of 9x`s.(hey you only had to wait 7 years  )The home version will be stripped down.Its very intuitive.Once users learn to navigate it(very very different!) the wizards and built in help are a lot better.Plus it has RDP built in which, is lovely.
As far as the reg worm..they havent said much about that.From a business stand point I dont really care.The re-registering is not applicable due to enterprise licensing.Ive been invited to a roll out so I will post anymore I hear about it then. | |
| 2beCCIE 2001-10-09, 6:17 am |
| People don't need it. There is no compelling reason to buy it. Unless, of course you like that whole Big Brother Microsoft thing. Win2K had many features that enhance business as well as home. Stability being the most desired. You will see XP creep into the market as new pc's are bought. But there will be very few people/companies that will upgrade to this OS. It will be another Me. What a joke that was. Microsoft needs to quit concentrating on new product and make the products it has better. IIS is a PERFECT example. How long has this product been on the market. Now everyone and their dog can hack it.
Just one man's opinion!!! |
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