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Why is everyone complaining?
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| I just wanted to know why it seems that everyone is complaining that they have to recertify? You make it sound that if you have your MCSE in NT that you should automaticly get it for 2000. But would that really prove that you really understand 2000? So please stop saying that you can't believe that you have proved you know your stuff and got your MCSE in NT. Just cause you know NT doesn't make you know 2K. It's like saying "Well I have a license to drive a car, so I should be able to drive a Bus" To different things, 2 different certs. Just my opinion. | |
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| I applaud you RoPiE. IT is a hot field right now and it is getting to the point where, like other professions, credentials are going to have to be kept current.
Teachers, lawyers, doctors, etc. have to update their certifications/licenses all the time. With the money that IT professional are getting paid, why should IT be different?
The field is growing and I do not blame Microsoft for what they are doing. Think about it, this is the same thing that happened years ago with Novell. Deja Vu....
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| I agree with both you guys!
Recertification is essential to companies, and people in the industry! I think it is about time Microsoft took a leaf out of the Cisco book and REQUIRED recertification every 2 years. And believe me, with each year that goes by that you are using and working with the products, these exams will be no problem.
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| People are complaining so about Microsoft, but are not complaining about Cisco which requires recertification. Cisco certifications are also harder to obtain too.
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| If you know ur stuff, recert'g shouldnt be a problem, right? As the industry changes so do the certs. This is a fact that applies to all industries. Imagine this: you go to a doctor for laser vision correction and the last technological update he had was in 1972. Comfy feeling, huh? Bottom line, know the technology that you are cert'g for. You guys who have posted make perfect sense. Leave the whiners to themselves that means more beer and money for us <wink>. | |
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Why? You know why! Some people cheap it on the MCSE and they heard that 240 exam is one shot deal. So, they afaird to lose the MCSE cert.
If u are in the I.T field. You know that technology changing everyday, and so do the job that you work on.
If u don't like the way how MS or other Cert do. Change your career to something else.
If u smart, make your own COmpany and OS to beat the MS win technology. You know that MOney and Power is almost everything in today society.
Think of it as a good sign and also bring up the standard of MCSE. You know that soon or later, win NT will be replace.
I think it is a transition period on most of the I.T field people. New technology is coming out everyday and we are pushing to better future.
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| absolutely agree with ropie. stop your whining and just take the damn 240. more than half of the stuff, current mcse's should be familiar with anyway.
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| Most Vendors do NOT require that you take the equivalent of a re certification track to upgrade to their new platform. Novell, Cisco, and SUN(Unix), require only one or two upgrade exams to re certify. The analogy of a car to a bus is weak. I am certified CNE, CCNA, MCSE, and A+. I work very hard, and will find it extremely difficult to prepare for the new MCSE 2K tests while at the same time keeping my other certs current. Microsoft is so arrogant that they really believe they are the only game in town. I just wonder how long Ropie has worked in the field?
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Originally posted by RoPiE:
I just wanted to know why it seems that everyone is complaining that they have to recertify? You make it sound that if you have your MCSE in NT that you should automaticly get it for 2000. But would that really prove that you really understand 2000? So please stop saying that you can't believe that you have proved you know your stuff and got your MCSE in NT. Just cause you know NT doesn't make you know 2K. It's like saying "Well I have a license to drive a car, so I should be able to drive a Bus" To different things, 2 different certs. Just my opinion.
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| I have to agree with Ropie and Smith. Just take the test. After months of complaining, nothing has changed. If you don't like Microsoft's policy, don't get certified or recertified as an MCSE. That will solve your problem. If you have multiple certifications you should have known that you would have to keep all of them current.
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Originally posted by Lermo:
Most Vendors do NOT require that you take the equivalent of a re certification track to upgrade to their new platform. Novell, Cisco, and SUN(Unix), require only one or two upgrade exams to re certify. The analogy of a car to a bus is weak. I am certified CNE, CCNA, MCSE, and A+. I work very hard, and will find it extremely difficult to prepare for the new MCSE 2K tests while at the same time keeping my other certs current. Microsoft is so arrogant that they really believe they are the only game in town. I just wonder how long Ropie has worked in the field?
Let's see here..... You want to keep your other certs current and don't complain but you do about MS... Doesn't sound a little wierd?? So you think that MS should just give you an MCSE in Win2k? Yeah right!! There are plenty of diffences between NT 4 and Win2k. So I guess you should prepare for the Win2k tests like you do for your other re-certs. | |
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| My point was that with most other certs, you will not have to take four exams, one of which is actually 4 exams in one, and seven exams if you do not pass 70-240 the first time. That is completely ridiculous!
You’re probably right though. I'll probably pass the W2K PRO exam and have the MCP cert, and pursue the CCNP Cisco certs. Better money anyway.
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| Why just complaining MS! Try get the ACE Certs. from Adobe and see!! You have to recert everytime the products upgrade. Then you'll know MS is quite good to us now.
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| I agree with RoPie and Bobby Digital and all the others inf avor of re-cert. As one said - wake up, we're in the IT industry and things WILL be changing constantly. Having MCSE for NT 3.51/4 doesn't mean you know W2K and get the MCSE for free.
At least, after the re-certs we will know that a MCSE is really a MCSE and not just a intelligent junky who've studied a lot but haven't even seen a NT screen before! This will raise the bar of MCSEs.
Why do people hate MS and their guts so much? Look at the score board in terms of users using NT and Win 9x. I say they have earned the right to set the pace!
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| WOW!! I'm suprized that I got this much response from you guys. I've never started a topic that had this many reply's. Yeah!! Anyways, I'm getting ready to take the 1st of 7 MCSE tests. Wish me luck!
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