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| I am confused about the requirements for MCSE by Dec.31. I was told that I need to complete the four core, Server,Workstation,Enterprise,
and Essentials by Dec. to get MCSE, and the two electives could be done in 2001. Does anyone know the real truth? | |
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| It is my understanding that you have until Dec. 31, 2001 to complete core/upgrade 70-240 exam. What I'm not clear on is if we have to complete the electives by then also? | |
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| If you are trying to attain a MCSE in Windows NT 4.0 then all 6 exams have to be completed by December 31 2000. Networking Essentials, Workstation, Server, and Server in the Enterprise and two elcetives have to be completed before Dec. 31st 2000 the electives you choose might be good toward the 2000 cert if they too are not retiring as of Dec. 31st 2000 (like TCP/IP OR IIS) otherwise you will have to do some electives for the 2000 track as well......I hope this information helps you out and as always "My two cents worth"................ | |
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| This is my read on the issue. You need to take NT4 Workstation, Server, and Server in Enterprise by Dec. 31, 2000 in order to take the 70-240 accelerated exam sometime in 2001. If you also want to take the Networking Essentials exam you need to take it before the Dec. 31, 2000 deadline. These four exams retire at the end of this year, so getting your MCSE using NT4 exams requires taking these exams this year. Your electives can be completed next year. Remember, an MCSE is an MCSE, in order to be one, you have to have met the requirements, which includes having up-to-date exams. Nothing says you lose your MCSE status, you just lose your option to take the exams when they retire. An MCSE is an MCSE for life, but how useful it is in the future depends on how long an OS hangs around. Occasionaly you have to study and take new exams in order stay current with the latest OS, which is W2K at this point. My MCSE certificate does not say anything about NT4 on it, it just says Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. When I finish upgrading to W2K I'm not expecting a new certificate. 
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cadman
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| Direct from MS MCP website:
Q. I am an MCSE and have passed the Windows NT 4.0 exams. Is my certification still valid?
A. The Windows NT 4.0 exams will retire December 31, 2000. MCSEs who have passed the Windows NT 4.0 core exams are required to upgrade their certifications to the new Windows 2000 track by December 31, 2001, to remain certified. Please see the exam retirement page for more information
Manny M
MCSE, MCP+I, Network+
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| Thanks for the feedback, I called Microsoft and found out that if you electives retire Dec. 31st you have to have all 6 of the test complete by then, in my case they are TCP/IP and IIS in which both retire quote:
Originally posted by Manny:
It is my understanding that you have until Dec. 31, 2001 to complete core/upgrade 70-240 exam. What I'm not clear on is if we have to complete the electives by then also?
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| Thanks for the information, I found out from Microsoft that my two electives retire in Dec. I suppose if I don't make the deadline I can choose other electives. Thanks quote:
Originally posted by cadman:
This is my read on the issue. You need to take NT4 Workstation, Server, and Server in Enterprise by Dec. 31, 2000 in order to take the 70-240 accelerated exam sometime in 2001. If you also want to take the Networking Essentials exam you need to take it before the Dec. 31, 2000 deadline. These four exams retire at the end of this year, so getting your MCSE using NT4 exams requires taking these exams this year. Your electives can be completed next year. Remember, an MCSE is an MCSE, in order to be one, you have to have met the requirements, which includes having up-to-date exams. Nothing says you lose your MCSE status, you just lose your option to take the exams when they retire. An MCSE is an MCSE for life, but how useful it is in the future depends on how long an OS hangs around. Occasionaly you have to study and take new exams in order stay current with the latest OS, which is W2K at this point. My MCSE certificate does not say anything about NT4 on it, it just says Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. When I finish upgrading to W2K I'm not expecting a new certificate.
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| Well, it goes without saying, if your electives retire, you have to take new electives. I don't think the MSP (Microsoft Police) are going to bust into your house on Jan. 1, 2002 and rip up your MCSE certificate, cut up your wallet card, and bend your pin if you haven't upgraded to W2K. The thing that bothers me is that people who are just starting out are so wrapped up about taking NT4 exams at this point in the game. If you take the 4 core of NT4 and PASS the accelerated W2K exam, you still have to take another core, plus 2 electives. That makes 8 exams. If you start on W2K, you take 5 core exams, plus 2 electives, which makes 7 exams. You have less than 3 months to take four NT4 exams. You have over 14+ months to take 5 W2K exams (remember, the W2K exams are not retiring next year). You can always learn about NT4 after the exams retire, the OS isn't disabled on Jan. 1, 2001.
IF, heaven forbid, you take the four NT4 core exams and take 2 electives, but fail the accelerated exam, you have to take the 5 W2K exams. That makes for 12 core exams you will have taken/attempted. If you just love stress, knock yourself out...
Knock! Knock!
Hide my certs! It the MSP! AHHH!
Crash! Halt! 
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cadman
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