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| ruscorp 2002-08-10, 9:05 pm |
| Greetings all!
I am new (in a way) to the wonder world of Novell and their certification tracks. I have visited the Novell Education website but am still a little confused about what track I should be on. I learned a bit of Novell 5 and 4.11 in school, but never played with it the 'real' world.
I am interested in taking the (50-632) Networking Technologies test as a start for my Novell cert roadmap. I figure it should be quite easy for me since I aced my Network+ and Networking Essentials on NT 4 track. As we all know, with Micro$oft, passing one exam makes you a 'MCP', is this true with Novell? (No I'm not asking if passing one Novell test makes you MCP  ). If I pass 50-632 what designation will it give me, if anything and also what other tests should I follow up with on my way to CNE? | |
| DemiGod 2002-08-12, 7:41 am |
| You may want to call Novell it's my understanding that they'll accept Network+ Certification in place of the Network Technologies exam. I think they give you credit for some microsoft certs too.
I'd say go with Netware 5 track and start with net admin exam | |
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| download the CNE .pdf
It explain everything you need to know | |
| themindseye 2002-08-15, 5:23 am |
| I've looked on the Novell site but I can't find anything that says if you have Net + or Microsoft certs that it'll count towards novell certification..
Does anyone know where it is??? | |
| richardwhit 2002-08-15, 3:35 pm |
| I think its on the CompTIA site, or at least the stuff about the Network+ is anyway | |
| ruscorp 2002-08-15, 7:36 pm |
| I don't understand Novell's twisted way of explaining their cert track. Their website gives me little insight. I'm still puzzled. Does anyone know what exams are required to achieve CNA status and if they will accept CompTIA certs as substitutes as stated by DemiGod? | |
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| Passing Netware 5 or 5.1 which I am working on will qualify you for CNA status. The Network+ can be used as a substitute for the Network Technologies if you are planning on going the entire track towards CNE. I believe that is correct, please someone clarify if I am wrong. | |
| ruscorp 2002-08-16, 10:08 am |
| bkone: Good show chap! You are right on the money. I called Novell Education last night (the phone number is (800) 233-3382) and I was informed that there is only one test required to become CNA and it's 50-653 NetWare 5.1 Administration (at least if your going for the 5.1 track). Network+ can be substituted for 50-632 Networking Technologies on the CNE track, all you need to do is fill out the form at http://www.novell.com/education/waiver/waiverform.pdf. There is no fee for the waiver unlike CIW and similar to Micro$oft. Thanks for your assistance! | |
| themindseye 2002-08-19, 3:28 pm |
| Thanx for that ,I'll have a look at it | |
| dheinsdorf 2002-08-22, 11:44 pm |
| You can still take the 4.11 Admin test for CNA - but not the 5.0. Funny but true.
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Originally posted by ruscorp
bkone: Good show chap! You are right on the money. I called Novell Education last night (the phone number is (800) 233-3382) and I was informed that there is only one test required to become CNA and it's 50-653 NetWare 5.1 Administration (at least if your going for the 5.1 track). Network+ can be substituted for 50-632 Networking Technologies on the CNE track, all you need to do is fill out the form at http://www.novell.com/education/waiver/waiverform.pdf. There is no fee for the waiver unlike CIW and similar to Micro$oft. Thanks for your assistance!
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| I contacted Novell and you are still able to test for the 50-639 exam, NetWare 5 Admin. The test doesn't have a last day to test and the person I talked to said they he didn't see where it would be discontinued anytime soon. Recommended last day to register was January 17 but I also went to 2test.com and could still register for this exam  | |
| dheinsdorf 2002-08-23, 5:34 pm |
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Originally posted by bkone
I contacted Novell and you are still able to test for the 50-639 exam, NetWare 5 Admin. The test doesn't have a last day to test and the person I talked to said they he didn't see where it would be discontinued anytime soon. Recommended last day to register was January 17 but I also went to 2test.com and could still register for this exam
Its weird and strange and the Novell Educ. people almost didnt give me my CNE because 5.0 Admin adaptive 50-645 is bad. 639 Form is OK but 645 which is supposed to be latter isnt. It was the same gal I spoke to 1 week before that said everything was cool and then my status didnt show up (they request you wait 1 week before even emailing) I called and it was like they were tossing it around and then said OK, you can have it. Scared the heck out of me. Heart rate was all jumpy - thought I was gonna have to take a ride to SLC and get Jedi on the ZenFu master up there.
Anyhow - take note of whom and when you speak to at Educ! Just in case. | |
| ruscorp 2002-08-23, 5:49 pm |
| dheinsdorf: Novell is one strange company. Who can ever understand why they do the things they do? I don't understand how you can still take the 4.11 Admin and not the 5.0 one. Very puzzling. | |
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| Very good Q?
Properly 4.11 still used by many old companies. | |
| ruscorp 2002-08-25, 2:39 pm |
| Kasor: NT4 is used my still widely used, but it didn't stop M$ from killing that. Novell is a more "logical" company. I guess M$ decides that when they release something new, everyone has to drop all and get it. It's a case of good marketing vs. business ethics. | |
| moongrl767 2002-08-26, 6:37 pm |
| Hello all! New to this thread. Sounds like if I am just starting out studying for the CNA that I should go with Netware 5.1 50-653 because by the time I'm ready to test 5.0 could be phased out. Is that right? What would you say is the average amount of time you need to study for the exam? (taking into account experience and study skills, of course.) Thanks! | |
| dheinsdorf 2002-08-26, 11:28 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by moongrl767
Hello all! New to this thread. Sounds like if I am just starting out studying for the CNA that I should go with Netware 5.1 50-653 because by the time I'm ready to test 5.0 could be phased out. Is that right? What would you say is the average amount of time you need to study for the exam? (taking into account experience and study skills, of course.) Thanks!
Your right on regarding the 5.1 vs. 5.0. I read the 5.0 whitebook/student manual at least 3 times thoroughly. I used the STSWare.com 5.0 Admin self test software and went through that 3 or so times noting my progress on each chapter and adjusting as needed each time through. Noteworthy is that lots of people like the Certify.com Exam Essentials also for this test. I had plenty of hands on prior and still the test wasnt just easy (5.0). I'd say 3 weeks of 2 hours per day plus at least some hands on of the book based labs. You have to know the objectives on this test. | |
| Wicked187 2002-09-04, 3:10 pm |
| The Networking Technologies exam can be subsituted by not only the Network+, but the MCSE as well.
Now, to my question. I have only worked with Novell 3.11 and 3.12, and, just to migrate to Windows NT 4.0. There are only contract jobs that require Novell knowledge in my region. I am not sure I will ever get one of these jobs. I have 2 exams left in the MCSE, and I plan on hitting the Cisco stuff sometime in November, for the CCNA, then moving on to the upper-level stuff next year. Would I be better off doing some UNIX stuff, like Solaris certification? | |
| ruscorp 2002-09-04, 3:13 pm |
| It's not a bad idea to brush up on the Netware. | |
| dheinsdorf 2002-09-04, 5:49 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Wicked187
The Networking Technologies exam can be subsituted by not only the Network+, but the MCSE as well.
Now, to my question. I have only worked with Novell 3.11 and 3.12, and, just to migrate to Windows NT 4.0. There are only contract jobs that require Novell knowledge in my region. I am not sure I will ever get one of these jobs. I have 2 exams left in the MCSE, and I plan on hitting the Cisco stuff sometime in November, for the CCNA, then moving on to the upper-level stuff next year. Would I be better off doing some UNIX stuff, like Solaris certification?
Heres an interesting link that sums up Novell's current status:
http://www.novell.com/news/press/frontline.html
About 6 months back I asked a few of what I concider the best instructors I know (full Microsoft/Novell/Cisco etcetera credentials, inststructors that also consult) regarding the apparently low amount of Novell career positions available. Thier response, and I agree is related to not so much the loss of footprint for Novell but moreso the products stability. Takes less staff and theres generally less movement from that staff position. I agree it appears that a CNE job would be hard to get - even scouring all the web job boards. Funny thing is I see CNA/CNE jobs advertised in my town - newspaper. I am studying/starting studies for MCSA so dont think I am blinded enough to not know the value of cross certification. But after you become (re)aquainted with some of the specs on that link I gave you, I wouldnt discount the fact that at least a 5.1 CNA would be smart. Unless your absolutely concrete you wont touch a Novell product I think its just a simple fact that Xcertification is becoming a necessity.
Novell is turning a profit, exceeding projected goals, getting more awards than Microsoft on competitive products and is ripping on new product introduction. NetWare6 is barely out and they are already calling for beta testers for NetWare Nakoma. If you were going to grab a CNA, its just going to get more difficult technically from now on out. And if your Solaris bound, eDirectory is the first directory to complete SunTone cert. If Novell does keep coming back the xplatform potential and superiority of thier directory might mean you better jump on now as it may end up at that old NetWare size market share in the future. |
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