CNE - ZenWorks Cool Solutions

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ZenWorks Cool Solutions

dheinsdorf

2001-11-26, 10:34 pm

Anyone pursuing Novell should be hitting the cool solutions communities for tons of tools and ideas.

I recently sent in a couple small McAfee distribution tips that got published very fast (theyre not really technical).

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions...and_zen_zw.html

Anyhow Novell users, admins, etcetera should not only know about and use this resource but be happy its there.

There has'nt been much that Cool Solutions hasnt covered for me when in need.

ccieToBe

2001-11-27, 1:58 pm

Cool stuff. Makes me wish I had ZenWorks on my network.

dheinsdorf

2001-11-27, 2:39 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
Cool stuff. Makes me wish I had ZenWorks on my network.

NetWork World 11/2001 Reader's Poll "Best Desktop Management Software".

Probably 90% of our networked users dont even have a Windows desktop anymore. All they see is Novell login screen and then Zenworks Application Launcher window. Its getting to be a full time job - not enough time to commit to NDS and server health checks.

I still gotta take NetTech and Zen2 tests yet. I have GOT to start hitting the NetTech book(s) really hard. ZenWorks is pretty fun stuff! I recommend it as an elective.

ccieToBe

2001-11-27, 3:44 pm

quote:
Originally posted by dheinsdorf

NetWork World 11/2001 Reader's Poll "Best Desktop Management Software".

Probably 90% of our networked users dont even have a Windows desktop anymore. All they see is Novell login screen and then Zenworks Application Launcher window. Its getting to be a full time job - not enough time to commit to NDS and server health checks.

I still gotta take NetTech and Zen2 tests yet. I have GOT to start hitting the NetTech book(s) really hard. ZenWorks is pretty fun stuff! I recommend it as an elective.

Yeah, ZenWorks is very nice. I wish Novell would port this to the *nix world.

Kasor

2001-11-27, 4:43 pm

Novell products are good, but too techie.

U are very lucky to work with NW and Zenwork.

dheinsdorf

2001-11-27, 5:54 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe

Yeah, ZenWorks is very nice. I wish Novell would port this to the *nix world.

I think they will. Matter of fact I am suprised its not already, Jack Messman has some un-Messing to do and then we'll just hope it ports. eDir is there so thats the foundation!

dheinsdorf

2001-11-27, 5:57 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Kasor
Novell products are good, but too techie.

U are very lucky to work with NW and Zenwork.

I feel lucky cause it is techie, but sometimes it gets scary, like I wish maybe sometimes I fell into the Microsoft thing instead. Nawwwwww.

ccieToBe

2001-11-27, 7:59 pm

quote:
Originally posted by dheinsdorf

I feel lucky cause it is techie, but sometimes it gets scary, like I wish maybe sometimes I fell into the Microsoft thing instead. Nawwwwww.

I get that feeling sometimes when I'm trying to figure out something new. Then I sit down and use Windows for a few minutes. It's amazing how fast that feeling disapears

dheinsdorf

2001-11-27, 10:59 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe

I get that feeling sometimes when I'm trying to figure out something new. Then I sit down and use Windows for a few minutes. It's amazing how fast that feeling disapears

You made me laugh man! Thats good. I really like that one Network World columnist - I think its Bob Cringley (it might not be him nor Network World - I get too many rags to read) but he said recently something like "By 2005, the Datacenter will belong to Linux".

Its such a strange place for anyone thats not a redmond robot. Jerks are saying dump NetWare from Novell's other brilliant products to keep the company alive - Open Source is pecking away at the shell with a stainless steel egg tooth. Yet lots of us have to use and support and put meat on the table with Microsoft stuff. We love to hate it but it is as American as apple pie, baseball, and a Chevy 1970 LS6 454 Chevelle SS.

I have never heard anyone - columnist, chief editor, whatever speculate where the USA would be without Microsoft. Just today I was amazed at my Win2k Dell PIII 1Gig/ 384meg. I had authenticated to 3 different NDS trees via explorer, had 2 RconsoleJava server sessions open, 3 spreadsheets, 1 Access database opened, NWAdmin32 accessing 3 trees, Several mapped drives to Word docs to cut and paste results, about 5 IE6 windows hitting google and novell etcetera, a couple dos sessions running pings, ZenWorks NAL feeding me all my available apps from all the trees. McAfee 4.51 corp scanning everything backgrounded, IE6 email going on.

Hell, I havnt rebooted in like 3 weeks. Explorer has crashed and automagically restarted at least 4 times. This is a daily workload on this system - and I havnt had to reload w2k since I took it out of the box 6 months back. I dont even want to mention all the various apps and crap I have installed and removed or forgotten about.

I dont know from experience but I will blurt out that I know its not Linux, but damn its tough all the same. XP is the first since 95 that I havnt beta'd. I got betas for it. I spent a lot of time really mastering 3.11 during 95's first year or two. Now Microsoft is cranking this stuff out too fast to keep up.

Damn I am going to sleep.

ccieToBe

2001-11-28, 10:08 am

quote:
Originally posted by dheinsdorf

You made me laugh man! Thats good. I really like that one Network World columnist - I think its Bob Cringley (it might not be him nor Network World - I get too many rags to read) but he said recently something like "By 2005, the Datacenter will belong to Linux".

Its such a strange place for anyone thats not a redmond robot. Jerks are saying dump NetWare from Novell's other brilliant products to keep the company alive - Open Source is pecking away at the shell with a stainless steel egg tooth. Yet lots of us have to use and support and put meat on the table with Microsoft stuff. We love to hate it but it is as American as apple pie, baseball, and a Chevy 1970 LS6 454 Chevelle SS.

I have never heard anyone - columnist, chief editor, whatever speculate where the USA would be without Microsoft. Just today I was amazed at my Win2k Dell PIII 1Gig/ 384meg. I had authenticated to 3 different NDS trees via explorer, had 2 RconsoleJava server sessions open, 3 spreadsheets, 1 Access database opened, NWAdmin32 accessing 3 trees, Several mapped drives to Word docs to cut and paste results, about 5 IE6 windows hitting google and novell etcetera, a couple dos sessions running pings, ZenWorks NAL feeding me all my available apps from all the trees. McAfee 4.51 corp scanning everything backgrounded, IE6 email going on.

Hell, I havnt rebooted in like 3 weeks. Explorer has crashed and automagically restarted at least 4 times. This is a daily workload on this system - and I havnt had to reload w2k since I took it out of the box 6 months back. I dont even want to mention all the various apps and crap I have installed and removed or forgotten about.

I dont know from experience but I will blurt out that I know its not Linux, but damn its tough all the same. XP is the first since 95 that I havnt beta'd. I got betas for it. I spent a lot of time really mastering 3.11 during 95's first year or two. Now Microsoft is cranking this stuff out too fast to keep up.

Damn I am going to sleep.

Give XP a try. Its licencing is questionable, but IMO it has a much better interface then Win2k (reminds me of Gnome). As long as you're on a high powered system it runs faster too. As far as stability goes I don't see that much difference from Win2k. Both are very stable by Windows standards, but like you say, they're no Linux. I've rolled out XP to two end users and might upgrade everyone else. One use to use 98SE and other was using Win2k and they're both happy with XP.

Those Redmont Robots make me laugh. Every once in a while one will ask if I'm running NT or 2000 on my servers as if it's the only thing out there. I tell them FreeBSD and more often then not they get glazed looks on their faces. Cracks me up every time.

As far as what position we'd be in without Microsoft goes, I don't think we'd be nearly as well off. If not for Microsoft's marketing power the PC probably wouldn't have caught on and proprietary architectures would be the norm. I think Sun and Apple hardware are great, but without the such low PC prices I'm sure they'd cost a lot more and be less advanced then they do today.

limsam

2001-11-28, 6:42 pm

Hi

Yes, I think Win2000 is the first good product MS has ever released. It is amazing compared to WinNT.

But, I feel, still, it is not match for Unix/Linux.

Perhaps MS may do it later

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