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| FunkDoctor 2003-07-02, 4:17 am |
| Failed the exam this Monday.
Scored 835/1000.
Really cheesed off!!
It's a difficult exam as you realy have to keep an eye on the time.
I had 2 sims questions which took me around 15 to 20 mins per sim. The problem I found with the sims is when you enter a command the sim responds very slow. I think half the time on the sims was wasted just waiting for the sim to catch up with what I was typing.
The rest of the exam was not too bad.
I'll be taking it again next week, but I need to go through wans and access lists some more.
My advice to all yo planning to take the exam is STUDY HARD!! Make sure you cover all topics properly. especially subnetting, routing protocols, switching, wans and access lists.
The material I using is:
Cisco Press CCNA Study Guide- Wendell Odem
Sybex Exam Notes- Todd Lammle
Sybex Virtual Lab CCNA Gold- Router Simulator.
Odems book it brilliant!!
FunkDoc. | |
| Spunknot 2003-07-02, 5:51 am |
| Sorry to hear that, But you came so close! I'm sure you'll get it next week. By the way, how long have you been studying for the CCNA?
Good luck next week. | |
| donaldmc 2003-07-02, 8:42 am |
| Man, that was close! I think you must have gotten a slow machine because the SIMs resonded pretty quick for me. Good Luck on the next one! | |
| FunkDoctor 2003-07-03, 3:17 am |
| Cheers Spunknot and Donalmc!!
I've been studing it for around 4 months, its slightly harder when your not getting the hands on, but the router simulators are good enough to get you ready for the sims questions.
Spunknot! when you planning on taking your exam?
Donaldmc! Cheers for the advice!!I think I'll try another test centre this time around, because the sims were responding slow and the time were given is tight.
Funkdoc. | |
| donaldmc 2003-07-03, 12:58 pm |
| I've heard alot of bad feed back from Prometic testing sites. People are complaining about the machines and more and more people are saying they think they are being ripped off by them. I took my test a VUE testing center and have heard good thigs about them. Just thought I'd let ya'll know. | |
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| FunkDoctor 2003-07-04, 2:50 am |
| "I've heard alot of bad feed back from Prometic testing sites. People are complaining about the machines and more and more people are saying they think they are being ripped off by them. I took my test a VUE testing center and have heard good thigs about them. Just thought I'd let ya'll know."
I think I'll book mine with VUE next time!!
Nice 1 Donaldmc!!
Cheers Jax_Jaguars!! | |
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| Try again. It happen, sometimes u just need a little luck on your testing date.
Many people had to take two times to PASS. It is not you don't know the materials, it is just #$#$#@$# | |
| Spunknot 2003-07-06, 10:26 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by FunkDoctor
Spunknot! when you planning on taking your exam?
Hopefully by the middle to end of next month. | |
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| Yho FunkDoc, about your failed exam, sorry for You.
Three weeks ago it happens with me.
I had 822 of 1000 points, you need 849.
Also 2 Sims, the first one I took 20 minutes and i give it up, and the second sim i was ready after only 3 minutes.
But i saw something strange in the questions maybe you saw it also.
I had some questions with 5 possible answers i had to choose 2 correct answers but I saw 3 correct answers and i'm sure of this.
But you are right CCIE #1624 is great I also used his(Wendell) Cisco Press.
And for you guy's who are doing exams with Prometric, I never had any problems with Prometric during my MCSE2000 Exams, but now with Cisco CCNA 640-607 on the exam date I took place behind my computer and my name and id didn't appear. After one hour I try it again and then 15 minutes later the computer hang. But they restart it and I could start the exam. After the exam the computer hung again. I complained about this and Prometric has given me a new free now cost CCNA 640-607 exam.
This Monday 14 july i will go for it and Kill that basterd but I will doit on a different test center.
I have a solution for the first sim,
don't search to long for the bug (5 min), go and configure every interface again on every router (no shut, clock rate(DCE) etc etc) this will cost you no more then 10 minutes. In real live you would do this or put the original settings back. But it is nice to know what is going on, so keep monitoring.
If you blow one of the two or both sims you are death meat.
Ok good luck next week FunkDoc!
Aksel | |
| donaldmc 2003-07-10, 9:31 am |
| I heard about a crazy Simm somebody claimed to have gotten. If he telling the truth I don't know, but it sounds like something sneaky Cisco might do. Check this out. The entire running config was correct, but when he looked at the start config it was not. The problem with the new config was the tech had forgot copy run start. I think th guy is full of it, myself, but that would be a tricky one to come across. Who remembers to look at the start config? | |
| FunkDoctor 2003-07-10, 10:43 am |
| True!!
But i reckon the guys full of it aswell.
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| sukuvi 2003-07-10, 11:15 am |
| Failure happens sometimes but as close to the passing score as you are, I'm convinced you know the stuff. It was how slow the simulator was on the PC that put you below the passing score. You made the right decision in selecting another test center for next week.
JUST GO AND GET IT!!!.
We are all waiting impatiently for you to bring that CCNA with you. | |
| aksel 2003-07-10, 12:20 pm |
| Hi,
In fact the simulator was fast almost like a real IOS. but the question was Sh#@.
on "sh controllers s 0" it give the respond this command is not supported in this simulation.
Yeah great simm, what now?
Situation:
R1----`----R2----`----R3
R1 couldn't communicate(ping) with R2 and R3, R3 couldn't communicate with R2 and R1.
So fix the problem! They give me some IP addresses i didn't trust.
The approach for this problem is:
You have to think that you are at home or on the job and this are my Routers and i will solve it. If it take to long i will configure all interfaces again and set the encap and right protocols.
And now also "copy run start".
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| donaldmc 2003-07-10, 12:31 pm |
| i got something like that the problem was with RIP | |
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| Donaldmc,
Right, Yeah. I remember all interfaces of all routers where up and running. But on R1 or R2 on s0 int, the DCD=down DSR=down DTR=down RTS=down CTS=down. but the interface was up and line protocol was up on both sides of the serial line. So I was confuse about this.
sh ip protocol.
conf t
router rip
network bla.bla.0.0
network now.now.0.0
Oke thanks but what's up with those signals they are all down and the interfaces where all up.
(maybe Murphy's Law )
Ok. | |
| donaldmc 2003-07-10, 3:01 pm |
| Here is the meaning of those lines
DCD = data carrier detect
DTR = data terminal ready
RTS = Request To Send
CTS = Clear To Send
If you see something like what you said interface is up line protocol is up and the clock rate is set. Most likely the problem is with An Ip address not being assigned or a bad subnet mask. As far as you could not use the command "sh controllers s 0" , I don't know I never use that command, I just use sh run or sh interface. | |
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|  Donaldmc,
Yeah, I know the meaning of those signals but in a real router they should be up if both sides of the serial lines where up. (DCE or CSU/DSU).
Ok this was a simulation in the near future i hear that cisco will put real routers in the exam simulation.
Thanks for the tip of the ip address/subnet Mask. It could be that the problem was subnet mask or ip address and RIP. 
Aksel.  | |
| donaldmc 2003-07-10, 5:50 pm |
| You heard they were going to use real routers. That would be awesome. | |
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| Donaldmc,
CCNA Exam 640-607 Certification Guide Chapter 13 page 823, Cisco Press Wendell Odom.
Quote:
In order to better test people on whether they have hands-on skills, Cisco will begin including a practical component on the CCNA exam. The exam engine will simulate routers and switches, with the eventual possibility of using remote lab access to configure live routers and switches during the exam!
Allright, I hope next time I will get a live router but I don't think so.
Aksel | |
| FQuinteros 2003-07-10, 8:25 pm |
| Took the -607 for a second time.
In my opinion the labs are straight forward. One deals with RIP IP and the other with subnets... it's all not too hard, just make sure you can ping accross your routers when it's over, then go on.
About 5-7 subnetting questions.
A few frame-relay questions (2-3) includinf some vague ones on FR IGRP metric command... (not in the Lemmle book) !@^&&@%ghhhhh.
Planning to take it in (for third time in 5-7 days, perhaps next friday (7/17/03).
There is more than enough time... my scores 821 & 821... 60 questions 75 minutes.
Them most difficult part (I know my material dang-it) is the multiple answer questions. Sometimes they ask for 2, the 3, sometimes all that apply (which could be 1), anyway you got to practice questions...
Good luck to all!!! I am sure going to need it myself. | |
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| FQuinteros,
 Oooh no! This could also happens with me! Sorry for you next time better better better Luck.
Frame Relay is heavy yeah, I study hard on Frame relay so they don't suprise me.
I have got a lot of subnetting also with CIDR and VLSM you know the tricky ones.
Thanks for the tip with the labs simm.
You got 60 questions, I also got 60 questions but 90 minutes.
The books cisco press is ok, I don't know the book(cybex) of Tod, but for the exam you need much more.
I have learned a lot of the exam questions of Trancenders/Certs and Boson.
There are a lot of practice exams but the best are with good explenation of every wrong and right answers and some special hints. I have learned that if you score 99 or 100% with the trancenders or Boson you still have the chance to fail the exam.
I go for another week for hard, very hard study, so reschedule my exam for one week.
Aksel. | |
| FunkDoctor 2003-07-11, 5:30 am |
| "JUST GO AND GET IT!!!. We are all waiting impatiently for you to bring that CCNA with you"
Sukuvi, I found the majority of people on this forum to be very helpful.
But for motivation! You've put the icing on the cake!
Respect!! | |
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| ALLRIGHT, ALLRIGHT!!!!
I WILL!!! but I have to be sure of myself!!
With all the tips for the Simm's it must be easy | |
| jamesb2 2004-08-31, 7:29 am |
| I have had the EXACT question on the test the last 3 times I have taken the test. That's right, I have taken the test 3 times and have always come about 2 to 3 questions away from passing. Anyway. The scerio is legit. I noticed the reply about the IP and Subnet mask! Not true. In the scenerio I had all of the interfaces had the default SM /24. I STILL have not found out an answer for this question. HELL A CCIE DOES NOT KNOW THE ANSWER! | |
| smrkdown 2004-08-31, 8:16 am |
| Any CCIE can sit down at these sims and complete them in a blink. Any CCNA and CCNP can also... It's just a matter of understanding the question, evaluating the situation, and making it work like it is supposed to. | |
| Tophat 2004-08-31, 6:42 pm |
| I did not find the sims to be hard what so ever. Actually they were very easy in the test I took. I dont think you need hands on experiance to pass those sims, let alone a ccie or other.
I dont know which sim you had, but I would try to recreate it in a lab and see what happens. Should be the easiest way to come to the right answer.
I just want to know how you know that you did not pass the sims. My test did not tell me which questions I got wrong. For all I know I could have failed both sims and got all other right. I just dont know how they are scored. I was able to ping through the network indicating the network was fully operation at the end of the sim but that does not give me the warm and fuzzy that cisco thinks the same way. | |
| jamesb2 2004-09-01, 1:10 pm |
| I have the experiance. I have the hands-on. I can create the same setup in my lab at my office and all of the routers can talk!!!!!!! THAT'S THE POINT! I have not found a way to get the line and protocol to up and all of the other settings down at the same time. I am just trying to find a little help!! Finally I have asked a CCIE and CCNP!!!! go figure. right! they must not know anything either!!! |
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