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sandy7000

2004-08-20, 3:00 pm

One person recommended this:

quote:
If you can afford a router, get a 2501 or 2503


I'm just starting my search. What's the difference between a 2501 & a 2514 (for example) for CCNA sims? This is for exam study w/ 2-3 towers max on it.

Thanks
sandy7000

2004-08-20, 9:48 pm

P.S.

I found Hewlett Packard AdvanceStack Switch 208T Management Modules at our local university used equipment sale. They're $5/ each. There's literally a stack of almost a hundred used ones on a pallet for that price!!!!

Here's their webpage: http://www.uwsp.edu/facserv/Surplus/index.html

Pianos, gym lockers, switches, but no Cisco routers I asked.
Spid

2004-08-20, 10:28 pm

Hey! You can get a few right here
sandy7000

2004-08-21, 7:19 am

Will you give me an Examnotes discount?
smrkdown

2004-08-21, 8:49 am

Most CCNA labs don't require 2 ethernet interfaces like the 2514's provide, but you might want them for other things like HSRP. I have three 2501's and I haven't run into any problems. I am however looking at a 2522 for frame relay switching (not for CCNA though).
sandy7000

2004-08-22, 3:28 pm

Cool! Thanks for the info, smrkdown.
Mauler1

2004-08-22, 9:02 pm

I AM STAYING AT HOME NOW WORKING FULL TIME ON MY MBA WITH EMPHASIS IN COMPUTER RESOURCE AND INFORMATION MANAGEMENT DEGREE
Warfare

2004-08-25, 8:07 pm

Don't you have to have Frame-relay,ATM, or ISDN connections in order to use a Router that is designed for one of those technologies?
smrkdown

2004-08-25, 8:20 pm

Designed for which technologies?
Warfare

2004-08-25, 8:32 pm

quote:
Originally posted by smrkdown
Designed for which technologies?


For example, is you are using a router that supports ISDN or ATM, how do you plan to experiment if you have no ISDN or ATM connections?
smrkdown

2004-08-25, 8:40 pm

Ah, I don't plan on using ISDN or ATM just yet. For ISDN, I believe you have to use an IDSN simulator. For ATM, you can buy a lightstream ATM switch. You basically have to have devices that will do what an ISP's devices will do. When you have a real frame relay connection, you have a DTE device (your router) connected over usually a T1 link to the ISP's frame-relay switch. Then you have the frame relay mesh and the ISP is responsible for getting your traffic to the other side to your other DTE device. If I were to do this in my home lab, I'd have my two DTE devices (my routers), and I'd have a frame relay switch (a Cisco 2522 or 2610 with serial modules). I'd basically be the same thing you'd have with a real connection with the exception of the physical T1 circuit and CDU/DSU.
Warfare

2004-08-25, 8:48 pm

Neat! I was hoping such a thing was possible to do at some point (when taking CCNP or somehting) instead of renting expensive online labs.
sandy7000

2004-08-28, 1:34 am

I'm LOL (at myself) because I have no clue what you guys are saying..I'll come back in 6 months after I've googled it.

Just when I thought I could stop wearing IT diapers & get my first pair of big boy underpants..oh well. Back to the books.
Warfare

2004-08-29, 12:20 pm

quote:
Originally posted by sandy7000
I'm LOL (at myself) because I have no clue what you guys are saying..I'll come back in 6 months after I've googled it.

Just when I thought I could stop wearing IT diapers & get my first pair of big boy underpants..oh well. Back to the books.




I assume you are not studying for CCNA?
sandy7000

2004-08-29, 4:58 pm

CCNA's a sideline. MCSE 2K3 is my highest priority.

I thought I might as well kill 2 birds w/ one stone by doing some CCNA study on the side while focusing on MCSE 2K3.

I do appreciate the exposure I'm receiving to CCNA from posts like smrkdown's (& yours).
smrkdown

2004-08-29, 6:57 pm

Have you considered doing A+ and Network+. Aren't they electives for the MCSA/MCSE?
Warfare

2004-08-29, 11:38 pm

smrk


How on earth are you working on CCIE too? I just noticed! Shouldn't you finish CCNP first? or is that like more of a future plan?
smrkdown

2004-08-30, 8:24 am

More of a future plan. CCNP skills will be useful for CCIE also.
sandy7000

2004-08-30, 9:15 am

quote:
Have you considered doing A+ and Network+. Aren't they electives for the MCSA/MCSE?


Ha Ha! You're trying to trick me. I thought they counted towards the CCIE.


(Just kidding)
sandy7000

2004-08-30, 9:23 am

P.S. Money's a huge issue right now. $300 this semester went towards the ambulance ride (& other medical bills) I needed in December after heart failure ...all my cert exam money.

I can't justify A+ if MCSE is what I need for school. I'm doing fine w/o the A+ for now.

On the same Token Ring, Net+ isn't as valuable compared to the CCNA.
smrkdown

2004-08-30, 10:41 am

What I meant was that if you get A+ and Network+, Microsoft will count them toward your MCSA certification. They also count Security+ toward MCSE certification. It'd just be like killing three birds with one stone, not to mention that A+ and Net+ will stand on their own on a resume even if they were part of your MCSA/MCSE. Yeah, money is a XXXXX... I just look at it as an investment in my future (hopefully).
sandy7000

2004-08-30, 12:08 pm

I thought it was unusual for you to try to be a smart alec.

Thanks for the info. I'll have to find out more.
fbak2

2004-08-30, 4:00 pm

As to doing FR there is a note in CIO as to how to do FR back to back (2 routers), been a while since I had to do it though. As to the use of A+ etc for MCSE stuff, there is also the time to consider, I dont have Comp TIA certs so cant comment if they are worth having once you are in the MCSE/CCNP ish space I would think that they are of limited use. May be good as 'trial' certs like I got my MCSE to get used to test taking before going for CCIE (note this was 1997-98 before a lot of certs existed).
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