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| ddaryl 2004-06-11, 7:37 pm |
| got an 875. 849 is passing
(insert golf clap)
The test was a bear, I think what saved me was my ability to weed out bad answer choices.
I did the local community college's Cisco Network Academy CCNA classes (3 semesters) and used the Sybex 4th edition e-book and cert simulator. I spent the last 6 weeks preparing and the last 2 weeks dedicating myself to the task
although the Cert simulator is good, and it definitely helped me pass, it didn't directly prepare me for 50% of the questions I was asked. | |
| Tophat 2004-06-11, 9:51 pm |
| congratz, way to go..
looks like you are the proof that hard study does allow someone to pass the test on the first time contrary to some resent posts.
tophat | |
| joseph12 2004-06-11, 9:52 pm |
| Hi
Congratulation!
I am preparing to take ccna 640-801 on July 1st,can you tell me what do I need to concentrate on. You said " you used Sybex 4th edition e-book and cert simulator" Is this book really help you to pass the exam? Please let me know if this book better than those two cisco book ccna intro & ccna icnd. I will be waiting for your answer. Thanks
Joseph12 | |
| ddaryl 2004-06-11, 10:27 pm |
| Yeah joseph
I recommend it, but i've heard good things about cisco book ccna intro & ccna icnd, even though I didn't use it.
What I liked about the cert simulator (it's a demo, so you need to upgrade it to the full version for another $39) is that at the end of every test I took it allowed me to look at the answers I got wrong, and then look at a description about the topic. It also broke up the exam into portion which directly coorelated to chapters in the Sybex ebook.
After 4 or so practice tests I could clearly see where I was struggling and what chapters I needed to study more of. Furthermeore, at the end of each chapter there were practice questions, and labs.
The Sybex ebook also included some "Flash Cards". I didn't really use the flash cards much.
It was alot of work, you cannot BS your way through this exam so keep hammering away at the studying, but it sure does help to have a testing simulator to guage and help mentally prepare you for what you are going to encounter. | |
| npo3po 2004-06-12, 12:46 am |
| CONGRATS!!! | |
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| Kasor 2004-06-12, 12:54 am |
| congrat  | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-12, 2:23 am |
| Congrats on passing and on violating the CA within 3 hours of certification. | |
| chitownsvt 2004-06-12, 9:10 am |
| ^^^ lol | |
| forbesl 2004-06-12, 9:49 am |
| I too extend my congratulations.
That being stated, this is but a couple of paragraphs from the Confidentiality Agreement (CA) you agreed to prior to your test and just violated. Look closely at the underlined paragraphs which basically say that Cisco can revoke your CCNA if you violate the agreement. Violating your CA isn't a good thing to do, especially in a public forum.
3 CONFIDENTIALITY AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OWNERSHIP
3.1 Confidentiality. You agree that the contents of the exam are confidential and that the
disclosure of that information could compromise the integrity of the Program and of
Certifications. Cisco makes exams available to you solely to test your knowledge of the
exam subject matter for which you seek Certification. You are expressly prohibited from
disclosing, publishing, reproducing, or transmitting any exam and any related information
including, without limitation, questions, answers, worksheets, computations, drawings,
diagrams, length or number of exam segments or questions, or any communication,
including oral communication regarding or related to the exam (known collectively as
“Proprietary Information”), in whole or in part, in any form or by any means, oral or
written, electronic or mechanical, for any purpose, without the prior express written
permission of Cisco.
3.2 Intellectual Property Ownership. Cisco retains all rights, title and interest in and to all
Program and related information, content, data, exams, materials, and all copyrights, patent
rights, trademark rights and other proprietary rights therein. All rights not expressly
granted by Cisco to you are expressly reserved to Cisco.
4 TERM AND TERMINATION
4.1 Term. The term of this Agreement is perpetual.
4.2 Termination for Convenience. Either you or Cisco may terminate this Agreement at any
time, with or without cause, upon thirty (30) days written notice to the other.
4.3 Termination By Cisco. Cisco may, in its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement at any
time if you breach any of the material terms of this Agreement, or if you violate or fail to
meet any Program requirements. ;
4.4 Notice. Cisco will provide you written notice of termination at your last known address.
Termination shall be effective as of the date set forth in the notice. Cisco, without waiving
its right to immediately terminate this Agreement, may provide you with thirty (30) days to
correct any default. If Cisco permits such a cure period, your failure to cure any default
within the cure period shall automatically cause the termination of this Agreement without
further notice.
4.5 Effect of Termination. Upon the termination of this Agreement, you shall immediately
cease to represent yourself as Cisco Certified.
!!... | |
| ddaryl 2004-06-12, 10:51 am |
| Interesting,
I was more under the impression that I just couldn't post exact questions and answers.
I've also depended on many suggestions from others to help me focus some of my studies.
So I have ot assume Tom Lammelle has had his CCNA, CCNP etc... revoked, since his it is known that he takes these test dozens of times and writes books about them ?
thanks for the reminder, I'm going to delete my info since I am now paranoid and I don't want to screw with something I worked so hard to get.
Its just my nature to wanna help others. | |
| forbesl 2004-06-12, 11:21 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ddaryl
Its just my nature to wanna help others.
I understand and admire that; however, many of the folks who visit this forum are nothing but leeches and free-loaders looking to pass the exam in the easiest possible manner. Many don't even want to help themselves by studying, doing research, and more studying. They want everyone else to provide the answers for them.
I'm just saying be wary of individuals you help, for those who won't even help themselves are not deserving.
!!!!! | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-12, 1:08 pm |
| I read the Todd Lammle book cover to cover and then some and I missed the parts where he told me what labs were on the exam. I'll have to have another look. | |
| forbesl 2004-06-12, 1:23 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by smrkdown
I read the Todd Lammle book cover to cover and then some and I missed the parts where he told me what labs were on the exam. I'll have to have another look.
You mean Todd didn't specify exactly what sims were on the exam? Grrrrrrr...and he was doing so well.
LOL 
!!!!! | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-12, 1:56 pm |
| I will say that some of the questions from CertSim by Lammle were nearly identical to some exam questions. I'm not sure what the deal with that is. | |
| ddaryl 2004-06-13, 1:21 pm |
| With Sybex book, Todd continually points out things he is not going to go into detail with becuase the book is geared towards what you will need ot pass the CCNA. Although this is a roud about way, it still suggests that he is providng what is on the exam by eliminating topic details that are not covered n the exam. Its a grey area, and I doubt Todd would lose business if he had his CCNA revoked.
I did have 2 or 3 questions on the certsim that were exact duplicates to what was in the CCNA exam.
The simulations in the certsim are good for getting you comfortable with the format you can expect on the CCNA. they helped. | |
| Tophat 2004-06-13, 2:07 pm |
| I know that forbesl had posted the whole CA, but it does have a loophole which I am sure someone like todd would have received from cisco. You never know, but one can only assume.
You are expressly prohibited from
disclosing, publishing, reproducing, or transmitting any exam and any related information
including, without limitation, questions, answers, worksheets, computations, drawings,
diagrams, length or number of exam segments or questions, or any communication,
including oral communication regarding or related to the exam (known collectively as
“Proprietary Information”), in whole or in part, in any form or by any means, oral or
written, electronic or mechanical, for any purpose, without the prior express written... | |
| hypergruv 2004-06-14, 9:06 am |
| way to go, congrats | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2004-06-14, 11:43 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by forbesl
!!!!! [/B]
forbel: would you mind explaining how you use this enigmatic signature of yours and what it conveys. I mean... when you just dot the whole thing out, I know you mean you're not getting across to the other person's brain.
So if you replied to a post I wrote and singed it (....), I should take that as an offense right?
2lbs. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-14, 12:21 pm |
| It symbolises the success rate when you initiate the ping command from a router
!!!!! 100% success
..... 0%
So you could say that ..... is derogatory.
I thought it was quite ingenious.
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| forbesl 2004-06-14, 12:47 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
forbel: would you mind explaining how you use this enigmatic signature of yours and what it conveys. I mean... when you just dot the whole thing out, I know you mean you're not getting across to the other person's brain.
So if you replied to a post I wrote and singed it (....), I should take that as an offense right?
2lbs.
Actually, it has more to do with the nature of the post than the person who submitted it.
For instance, if you look at my congratulatory response, you will see "!!..."
The first two "replies" were for a good job. The last three "timeouts" were because of the CA violation.
!!!!! | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-14, 12:49 pm |
| Still clever though.
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| joseph12 2004-06-14, 1:17 pm |
| Hi Daryl
Thank you very much for your input. I already order the sybex book. Is the cert simulator comes with the book? and where I can get the full version of cert simulator. Please let me know.
Joseph12 | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2004-06-14, 2:02 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by forbesl
Actually, it has more to do with the nature of the post than the person who submitted it.
For instance, if you look at my congratulatory response, you will see "!!..."
The first two "replies" were for a good job. The last three "timeouts" were because of the CA violation.
!!!!!
cool. I actually like that technique. I might just turn myself into an FCT at Techexams within the comming few months. Holmes has been around for a while. He needs a break. 
2lbs. | |
| ddaryl 2004-06-14, 3:11 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by joseph12
Hi Daryl
Thank you very much for your input. I already order the sybex book. Is the cert simulator comes with the book? and where I can get the full version of cert simulator. Please let me know.
Joseph12
I had the ebook, which offered the certsim DEMO. You had to purchase the upgrade for the full version.
I would suspect that if you ordered the book it will come with a CD in the back and have the certsim. You just have to go though the upgrade process. | |
| USHazard 2004-06-21, 1:27 pm |
| I used Boston Public Library, myself  | |
| USHazard 2004-06-22, 2:13 pm |
| Just passed with a 913.
Much elation ensued | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-22, 8:48 pm |
| Congratulations. | |
| Tophat 2004-06-22, 10:46 pm |
| way to go | |
| joseph12 2004-06-29, 8:13 pm |
| Hi Darryl
I am planning to take the exam on July 6th, I bought the Sybex book and the $39.00 certsim upgrade. I am studying very hard, understand the protocols, & practice those exams on the certsim. I would like to know from your point of view, those questions on Sybex book and certsim exams how close are they to CCNA 640-801 exam? Please let me know what I should expect when I am taking the exam on July 6th.
Joseph12 | |
| USHazard 2004-06-29, 11:08 pm |
| certsim is so similar to the exam that it hurts. | |
| Gaulty 2004-06-30, 3:10 am |
| referring to some of the posts previously towards the start of this thread.
SOME FOLK NEED TO GET A FRIGGIN LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| forbesl 2004-06-30, 8:18 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Gaulty
referring to some of the posts previously towards the start of this thread.
SOME FOLK NEED TO GET A FRIGGIN LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
..... | |
| darthfeces 2004-06-30, 11:40 am |
| i got sexsim .....
but it doesn't work as well | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-30, 12:00 pm |
| I got milk.
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| freak 2004-06-30, 12:03 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by USHazard
Just passed with a 913.
Much elation ensued
congrats to both of you | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-30, 12:06 pm |
| Thanks Freak, oh wait. . .
I thought you were talking about darth and myself.
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| forbesl 2004-06-30, 12:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I got milk.
In your manly breasts?
!!!!! | |
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| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-30, 3:07 pm |
| I thought it was hilarious!
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| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Thanks Freak, oh wait. . .
I thought you were talking about darth and myself.
funny guy | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-01, 9:31 am |
| You'd be surprised the amount of times I hear that, especially on a Friday night.
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| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-01, 9:31 am |
| You'd be surprised the amount of times I hear that, especially on a Friday night.
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| freak 2004-07-01, 10:07 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
You'd be surprised the amount of times I hear that, especially on a Friday night.
you'd be surprised how many times I read that in this thread | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-01, 2:27 pm |
| At least twice I should imagine!
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| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-01, 4:13 pm |
| Absolutely!
Anyway, how is life for freak and the freak family?
All well I hope.
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| exciting times right now, thanks for asking. The littles one is going to be 6 months old soon. She's one cutie pie. Her brothers are doing great, taking golf and tennis lessons. Man, to be a kid again | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-07-01, 4:24 pm |
| I was going to say that the freakette will be nearly six months old now.
Bet it feels great! Try not to beat them at sports too much though!
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| well, I never was much of an athlete, so it won't be long before they beat me
Yeah, family life with three kids is awesome. I recommend it! | |
| Tophat 2004-07-01, 10:17 pm |
| i'll stick to certs or beer, thank you... easier to manage, cheaper, and still rewarding. | |
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| well, not sure what your point is, because I certainly partake in certs and BEERS just as much as the next guy | |
| blackweaver 2004-07-02, 2:49 pm |
| i'm just curious about one thing; int the exam, how many marks do the sims carry on the average? | |
| old_friend 2004-08-19, 8:19 pm |
| ; | |
| smrkdown 2004-08-19, 8:36 pm |
| You have a few links that we could check these interesting events out at? I'm sure it was big news. | |
| old_friend 2004-08-19, 8:39 pm |
| ; | |
| smrkdown 2004-08-19, 8:48 pm |
| I just figured it'd be big news in the cert community and it'd probably be popping up all over the boards and such. I'd like to check out the email. How did you manage to get a copy? | |
| forbesl 2004-08-19, 8:54 pm |
| Lemme get my waders on.....the sh!t's getting deep in here. | |
| old_friend 2004-08-19, 8:58 pm |
| ; | |
| old_friend 2004-08-19, 9:01 pm |
| ; | |
| forbesl 2004-08-19, 9:22 pm |
| Gotta hand it to you....that's a hell of a good attempt at starting a rumour.
By the way, did you hear that Microsoft is buying out Linux? Me and ole' Linus are good buddies and I was in his office the day that Bill called him for a conference call with his offer (I can't tell you what the $$$ amount was, 'cause it's a secret). Anyway, let me see if I can find the acceptance letter that Linus emailed to Bill. It might take me a couple of days to "dig it up" so please be patient. | |
| smrkdown 2004-08-19, 9:22 pm |
| Interesting. | |
| old_friend 2004-08-19, 9:25 pm |
| believe what you will. | |
| forbesl 2004-08-20, 7:20 am |
| I "believe" that you're full of crap. Especially since you have recently edited your posts in this thread. | |
| lseals 2004-08-20, 11:28 am |
| Don't beat around the bush forbesl, tell us how you really feel
Just kidding, a little humor (very little) | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-08-20, 11:52 am |
| Obviously a wind up or mis-information.
This has run it's course.
Thread closed.
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| forbesl 2004-08-20, 11:52 am |
| I wish you could have read the posts that he edited out of this thread. What a load of hogwash! I think he removed them before Lammle could find out who he was and sue him for libel. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-08-20, 2:04 pm |
| Well, I have his (or her) IP address and DNS settings logged. If they are posting under another guise, I will find out who they are.
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