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| scguy3377 2004-06-01, 3:25 pm |
| Has anyone purchased the pdf file from actualanswers.com for 49.95? They say they guarante you pass the first time taking a test they cover within 30 days, or you get your money back....... | |
| forbesl 2004-06-01, 3:31 pm |
| uh oh.... | |
| darthfeces 2004-06-01, 3:49 pm |
| how about i keep my money and i
actuallystudy.com | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-01, 4:03 pm |
| How about I havebeenstudying.com, and was just wondering if anyone has purchased the file..... | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-01, 5:33 pm |
| If you studied like you should have then you wouldn't have failed the exam twice already and you wouldn't be asking about a file that will help you pass an exam that you don't have enough knowledge to pass. | |
| chitownsvt 2004-06-01, 5:34 pm |
| lol.com | |
| Yankee 2004-06-01, 7:35 pm |
| i love this place
Yankee | |
| azimuth40 2004-06-01, 8:02 pm |
| Yup  | |
| Varder 2004-06-01, 10:34 pm |
| Man, you guys are brutal! | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-03, 11:22 am |
| Smrkdown or whatever your name is, I have been studying, and I don't appreciate you assuming I haven't studied enough. When did u pass the CCNA, because it's not as easy as it once was fool...... | |
| forbesl 2004-06-03, 11:32 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by scguy3377
Smrkdown or whatever your name is, I have been studying, and I don't appreciate you assuming I haven't studied enough. When did u pass the CCNA, because it's not as easy as it once was fool......
Man, what is your problem? smrkdown just gave you a lot of help in this thread
http://examnotes.net/article1041534.html
(which I wouldn't have done after you told me to "suck it") and now you want to call him a fool?
You're biting the hand that feeds you, boy. | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-03, 11:37 am |
| tellin it like i see it | |
| smrkdown 2004-06-03, 12:01 pm |
| I took the 640-801 version of the CCNA exam (same as you did) and passed the first time with a score of 920/1000. And guess what... I actually read multiple books, worked on my home lab, and used training and testing software. Any other questions, insults, or name calling? | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2004-06-03, 3:03 pm |
| unless someone's been getting at you with a hot iron or something when you were young scguy,.... you're really suffering from some type of disorder.
Intermitent Explosive Disorder... if that rings a bell
or... Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder.
Anywayz, I've got one word for ya:
"behave"
2lbs. | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-03, 3:53 pm |
| [Edited by moderator]
This adds nothing to the thread. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-03, 7:36 pm |
| Three members in this thread are knowledgeable and helpful so why antagonise them all?
After you insulted smrkdown he still helped you for you to belittle him, what ever happened to gratitude?
These members are contributing to the forum; either respect them and avoid petty name calling or kindly refrain from posting in this forum.
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| ruscorp 2004-06-03, 7:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Three members in this thread are knowledgeable and helpful so why antagonise them all?
After you insulted smrkdown he still helped you for you to belittle him, what ever happened to gratitude?
These members are contributing to the forum; either respect them and avoid petty name calling or kindly refrain from posting in this forum.
Lexy lays the smack down once again. | |
| npo3po 2004-06-04, 11:37 am |
| nice to see the usual suspects enjoying themselves once again. | |
| Yankee 2004-06-05, 6:52 am |
| This forum has turned into a combat zone... no fun to be here any more.
Yankee | |
| chitownsvt 2004-06-05, 10:59 am |
| what are you talking about, this is way more entertaining | |
| hscott63 2004-06-05, 3:25 pm |
| This forum isn't bad yet I've seen worse forums than this. Sexy,laying the law down. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-05, 3:30 pm |
| This isn't a bad forum at all.
I'm not going to comment because it either gets twisted or people think that I have no right to an opinion because I moderate.
A member helped another after being belittled and he had the nerve to do the same thing again, they offered help and advice to have it thrown back in their face.
What other reaction would you expect if you did the same to someone else?
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| hscott63 2004-06-05, 3:45 pm |
| Sometimes people don't accept help from others too well that was given to them I guess its a ego thing. I appreciates all the help I can for that I'm very grateful for that. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-05, 4:18 pm |
| As I am, you can always learn something, regardless of how much you think you know about a subject you can always learn more. | |
| wertop 2004-06-06, 9:41 pm |
| actualanswers.com, formerly realcrap.com, formerly actual-shit-from-china.com ...
quote:
Originally posted by scguy3377
Has anyone purchased the pdf file from actualanswers.com for 49.95? They say they guarante you pass the first time taking a test they cover within 30 days, or you get your money back.......
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| kraven1388 2004-06-07, 12:43 am |
| When are you people going to get it. The only thing the certs really measure is whether or not you can learn. In real life you look at books, follow directions, and search the internet to solve problems. If you are good you will succeed and have a good job. If you are bad you will take down a couple networks and break alot equipment and eventually you'll get fired. Use whatever you need to pass the exams. You really want to say you know your stuff, get a degree. Certs are the easier way to get a decent job without going to college. | |
| Tophat 2004-06-07, 2:13 am |
| I have a couple of points to add to this: Certs should test your knowledge and ability against time. I dont think that tests should make you memorize things, but they should test your knowledge about a subject not just how to answer 60 questions. This is very difficult to judge. Yes, in the real world you will have a book and the internet to help you but you should be able to do the basic things without any help. Its kind of like counting to 10 or adding 5+3. A calculator can do those, but in order to save time you need to be able to know the answer without a reference manual. I think that cisco should provide its website to those taking the test. Not only will this give people a good reason to learn to navigate the site and find what they are looking for, it would make it more real world.
If you don’t know an answer that the website can provide for you, power to you if you can find it and answer the question correctly. Again, its more about time then knowing the correct syntax for coping a file to a router. To prevent just anyone off the street from taking the test, the time limit should be very strict the test taker should not have enough time to look up everything. Just the couple questions he is not sure of, like in the real world.
My second point is I think cisco should provide a router simulator for all those that wish to study. I find it very hard to swallow that third party companies are making money of selling an IOS simulator and cisco does not provide one. Can someone explain to me why its not in cisco’s best interest in having lots of people trained on there software? Why not help people learn cisco, i.e . then companies would by cisco, and use cisco since that is what their employees know…
My third point is that people who memorize the answers from particular websites cause damage to the reputation of the ccna. I have worked with some of those ccna's and seen the crap that comes from out of there mouths in meetings. I also watched them fumble the easiest of troubleshooting problems.
A company that sees that a person has been certified a ccna should be able to assume he has the necessary knowledge to perform the functions that a ccna test requires to be studied. The ccna actually stands for something. I am not sure if you who download the test answers and memorize te$tking, or actualanswers or what ever else there is understand that by having a ccna you should be able to go to a client and set up a network with minimal help. You should be able to be put into a NOC position and with little training be able to fullfil the basic functions there.
The motivation for the ccna can be different by person, higher salary, better job position, requirement for a job, or just personal knowledge. The fact remains that if people who do not have the knowledge to pass the exam but are able to receive a passing score because they got the answers will dilute the meaning of the ccna for the rest of us.
This happened with the old mcse. It got so bad it really did not matter to put it on the resume, because all it stood for was a 600 dollar waste of time and 3 hours surfing for braindumps. They called it a paper mcse and that is what these test answer providers are doing to cisco. What is worse is that lots of people actually support them, enough to allow multiple vendors to thrive and every one who does download the answers and pass because of their help contribute to the demise of the ccna, i.e. the thing they just paid $50 bucks for the answers and another $125 for the test means much less now that they got it then before they had it.
If this trend continues, the tests will become harder and harder for those of us who honestly study. Once the tests have become so hard they can’t get harder, then, the certification will in the eyes of knowledgeable employers more and more worthless.
I have read somewhere where people complain about the braindumps ruining it for the rest of us, which I don’t think it completely true. Its ruining it for all of us, because the cert you cheated for to get, means less now that you got it.
Just my $0.02 | |
| bigsjk 2004-06-07, 3:18 am |
| umm...just so you know actualanswers.com is run out of some company in pakistan, i did an extensive whois lookup (which you should always do before giving your cc #)
maybe it is a scam? | |
| bigsjk 2004-06-07, 3:21 am |
| [whois.dotster.com]
Registrant:
Pakistan
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Karachi, Sindh 99999
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Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: ACTUALANSWERS.COM
Created on: 23-APR-02
Expires on: 23-APR-05
Last Updated on: 28-APR-04
Administrative Contact:
House, IT Software ACTUALANSWERS.COMT49yoE@privacypost.com
Pakistan
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Technical Contact:
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End of Whois Information | |
| forbesl 2004-06-07, 8:33 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tophat
Yes, in the real world you will have a book and the internet to help you but you should be able to do the basic things without any help.
Agreed. There are a lot of dumpers and paper certs out there who wouldn't even know how to console into a router, which cable to use, what terminal software to use, or even where to plug in the connection....the "basic" of "basics". | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-07, 1:15 pm |
| [Edited by moderator]
How many times do you have to be told?
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| kraven1388 2004-06-07, 2:09 pm |
| Everyone always says its the dumpers that are bad BUT I have seen many.... what I call smart dummies. The supposedly know everything and they got a degree and a million certs. They can;t even replace a hot swap HDD. We could go on for days about this issue and go round and round. The fact of the matter is, if you suck you'll get weeded out eventually. If your good no one will care how you got there as long as you get the job. Peace out last post me | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-07, 2:13 pm |
| Sexy Lexy,
Do we not have a right to voice our opinions in here now? Last time I checked we all have the freedom of speach........ | |
| forbesl 2004-06-07, 2:25 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by scguy3377
Sexy Lexy,
Do we not have a right to voice our opinions in here now? Last time I checked we all have the freedom of speach........
speach?
edit your post, man! | |
| scguy3377 2004-06-07, 2:27 pm |
| u got the point didn't you | |
| jjlarct 2004-06-07, 2:42 pm |
| People always seem to misunderstand this freedom of speech thing.
Freedom of speech has relation to government and that government can't refrain you (within reason) from voicing your opinion and you can't be arrested, etc, for voicing your opinion, again within reason, unless it causes harm to others, etc.
Freedom of speech does not have meaning otherwise, such as in private quarters, forums, etc. In some cases, you may be free to say what you want, but you also have to be prepared to suffer the consequences of what you say. In other cases you may be censored. Consider if you call your boss a dirty insulting name. Your boss has every right to reprimand you; you can't cry freedom of speech and escape punishment. Read the TOS of various forums and the like and see the types of speech they do not allow. They are within their right to impose such limitations, freedom of speech does not apply to them, nor does it apply to this forum. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-06-07, 4:00 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by scguy3377
Sexy Lexy,
Do we not have a right to voice our opinions in here now? Last time I checked we all have the freedom of speach........
We all have the right to our opinion and freedom of speech but you do not exercise yours in a mature fashion.
You always have to have to decry others and take cheap shots.
If you persist in this manner then don't be surprised when your posts are edited and threads closed.
How many times to you have to be told to respect others?
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| I've said it before and I'll say it again,,,,It only takes me 5-10 minutes of talking with anyone who has taken any of the exams I have (and many others) to ascertain if they really learned it,,,,or dumped their way through.
The people in many of the positions are real McCoys, 50/50 and growing. Once you've been into it enough the prentenders are just so easy to spot. This wasn't as so 5 years ago as it is today.
Those who got burned on the studies by the brain dump brigades aren't soon to forget the affects.
Time is one of the few things of real worth we have. If you aren't willing to expend enough of it to learn, then parhaps you should find an area that you are willing to apply yourself in. | |
| USHazard 2004-06-21, 1:51 pm |
| I was looking for some practice questions, and came across such a (sup?) repository of information.
The funny thing is that it was obvious a lot of the answers were wrong |
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