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| ruscorp 2004-05-12, 11:40 am |
| Does anyone know what it's approx. worth is (used of course.) | |
| azimuth40 2004-05-12, 12:54 pm |
| without software license, under $200, closer to $150 with max memory. Other models like a 2514 are considerably more. Go to ebay and search on "cisco lab" and you will get a good idea. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-12, 1:05 pm |
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Originally posted by azimuth40
without software license
You need a software license for that? I thought it was just a piece of hardware you plug in and use. | |
| chitownsvt 2004-05-12, 1:20 pm |
| i bough mine on ebay for about $70, no software license needed. Just make sure the router already comes with IOS(in which case most come with it) | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-12, 1:31 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by chitownsvt
i bough mine on ebay for about $70, no software license needed. Just make sure the router already comes with IOS(in which case most come with it)
I found a nice one on eBay. $15 for s&h. However I am unaware of an software licenses needed to use a Cisco router. | |
| popdevil 2004-05-13, 11:45 am |
| I wouldn't pay more then $40-$50 for a 2501 router. Most of the time shipping is $20. Most of the routers come with 11.0 IOS but you really want to get at least 12.0. You can always buy flash that comes with the latest software and upgrad your router. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-13, 11:48 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by popdevil
I wouldn't pay more then $40-$50 for a 2501 router. Most of the time shipping is $20. Most of the routers come with 11.0 IOS but you really want to get at least 12.0. You can always buy flash that comes with the latest software and upgrad your router.
Yea most auctions have the same story. "Lastest ISO verison." Blah, blah, blah. Some will even throw in free cables. | |
| Dennis of KC 2004-05-14, 9:38 am |
| Just be careful when you buy on eBay. I just got ripped off for over $500 buying routers on eBay. Verify addresses, phone numbers, names, businesses, and police records before letting your money go. Good luck. | |
| azimuth40 2004-05-14, 10:08 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by popdevil
I wouldn't pay more then $40-$50 for a 2501 router. Most of the time shipping is $20. Most of the routers come with 11.0 IOS but you really want to get at least 12.0. You can always buy flash that comes with the latest software and upgrad your router.
Well you get what you pay for. I am talking about one from a place with a verifiable storefront, max ram and flash which can add considerable cost if done later, latest IOS, AUI adapter, serial cable, and console cable. Take a $50 P.o.S. and start adding incidentals and you will end up well over $100.
Oh and ruscorp look at the disclaimers on the IOS that all the vendors put in the fine print. The IOS is licensed to the current user and is not transferable. Pretty much the same as a copy of MS windows sold with a used system. If you want support, it better be in your name. | |
| popdevil 2004-05-14, 10:30 am |
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Just be careful when you buy on eBay. I just got ripped off for over $500 buying routers on eBay. Verify addresses, phone numbers, names, businesses, and police records before letting your money go. Good luck.
You have to be careful when you buy ANYTHING on ebay. You have to really pay close attention to a person's feedback. You should make sure they have 90% postive feedback and the feedback is from buyers not sellers. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-14, 11:35 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by popdevil
You have to be careful when you buy ANYTHING on ebay. You have to really pay close attention to a person's feedback. You should make sure they have 90% postive feedback and the feedback is from buyers not sellers.
90%? How about 100% with over 100+ feedback.
I didn't even know the IOS needed a license. I thought once you bought it, it was yours. | |
| popdevil 2004-05-14, 12:13 pm |
| I don't want this to become an EBAY discussion but....
I say 90% because sometimes you get negative feedback from people that don't read the ad or buy something (like a router) and don't know how to set it up and so they claim it doesn't work. Believe me I know. I've worked really hard to get 100% positive feedback and over 100 feedbacks. I always understand that I'm also taking a chance when I buy something on ebay vs. though a retail store.
...as far as the IOS, who needs support? I mean if you are becoming a CCNA you should already know how to support yourself.  | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-14, 12:41 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by popdevil
I don't want this to become an EBAY discussion but....
I say 90% because sometimes you get negative feedback from people that don't read the ad or buy something (like a router) and don't know how to set it up and so they claim it doesn't work. Believe me I know. I've worked really hard to get 100% positive feedback and over 100 feedbacks. I always understand that I'm also taking a chance when I buy something on ebay vs. though a retail store.
...as far as the IOS, who needs support? I mean if you are becoming a CCNA you should already know how to support yourself.
Yea, I got a netural a while ago from some mix up. It happens and the other person refuses to reverse it for my spottless record.
I don't see why I would need IOS either. The only thing I would want to know is how to put the lastest and greatest IOS on there. | |
| azimuth40 2004-05-14, 2:22 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Yea, I got a netural a while ago from some mix up. It happens and the other person refuses to reverse it for my spottless record.
I don't see why I would need IOS either. The only thing I would want to know is how to put the lastest and greatest IOS on there.
Thats the rub. Unless you go around the pirate haunts, how do you get the latest and greatest one. Working on a CCNA or not unless you are a programmer and can write your own bug fixes you are stuck with the IOS that came with the router probably 11.x something. You can still practice dumping and loading that one. Anyhow, No license, no access to the cisco download area unless you want to cheat and use someone elses account like work Cisco just does not spend as much money as Microsoft doing piracy education.
On ebay that is what vague reference to a CD loaded with hundreds or thousands of dollars of software is all about that comes with the router labs. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-14, 2:29 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by azimuth40
Thats the rub. Unless you go around the pirate haunts, how do you get the latest and greatest one. Working on a CCNA or not unless you are a programmer and can write your own bug fixes you are stuck with the IOS that came with the router probably 11.x something. You can still practice dumping and loading that one. Anyhow, No license, no access to the cisco download area unless you want to cheat and use someone elses account like work Cisco just does not spend as much money as Microsoft doing piracy education.
On ebay that is what vague reference to a CD loaded with hundreds or thousands of dollars of software is all about that comes with the router labs.
I thought those ISO upgrades were free. Oops. | |
| Yankee 2004-05-14, 6:20 pm |
| IOS is not free, but if you buy a router with an IOS installed you are safe but the seller may not be if they upgraded without a proper liscense. That is not your concern and Cisco has gone after major resellers for such violations, but like I say that ain't your problem. Just remember Cisco has discontinued support for the model 2500 router so there will be no new IOSs for it, but that does not mean it is still not a valuable learning tool for a while.
If your intentions are to go for the CCIE Lab I still advise spending proper money on a versatille lab with 2600s.
Yankee | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-14, 8:02 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Yankee
IOS is not free, but if you buy a router with an IOS installed you are safe but the seller may not be if they upgraded without a proper liscense. That is not your concern and Cisco has gone after major resellers for such violations, but like I say that ain't your problem. Just remember Cisco has discontinued support for the model 2500 router so there will be no new IOSs for it, but that does not mean it is still not a valuable learning tool for a while.
If your intentions are to go for the CCIE Lab I still advise spending proper money on a versatille lab with 2600s.
Yankee
Actually I was just looking to fool around with it. CCNA was good enough got me. Not looking for CCIE level. | |
| Yankee 2004-05-14, 10:26 pm |
| CCNA by Cisco's description (perhaps not now but in my era of the version 1 exam) was described as a high school level certification for people of limited experience. I didn't make that up, it is a quote from a Cisco employee conducting a beta CCNP class I attended almost 4 years ago on their campus in Wash DC. Based on my current observations he was correct then and even more so these days.
Yankee | |
| mikop 2004-05-14, 10:30 pm |
| most ccna acadamies / course ARE in high school or junior college level.
it is simply a better developed and supported curriculum than something like net+ in teaching students who may want to explore the network aspect of IT. | |
| azimuth40 2004-05-14, 11:47 pm |
| yup typically 3rd and 4th year high school and career changing adults are the stated targets for the academies. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-15, 1:11 am |
| Doesn't that describe me?  | |
| azimuth40 2004-05-15, 10:09 am |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Doesn't that describe me?
It might. Many feel that the academy is far too long if you already have some IT experience. It is written for 4, 12-18 week semesters assuming that a high school student would be ready to take the CCNA by the time that they graduate. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-15, 10:37 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by azimuth40
It might. Many feel that the academy is far too long.
Not interested in the NYPD. Thanks anyway though. |
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