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| Yankee 2004-03-04, 9:18 pm |
| As a former moderator of this forum back when Skipster was actually here (ya it was a few years ago) and one who actually actually answers technical questions, I find it offensive when you take a shot at someone then close a thread. If you chose to close it, than do so but leave out the cheap comment.
No one here has ever been more vocal than me against cheating and I have always promoted reading and studying (as have many others), but to abuse the powers of a moderator is inexcusable.
my two cents,
Yankee | |
| s2kfan 2004-03-04, 10:10 pm |
| agreed | |
| Deja-vue 2004-03-04, 11:48 pm |
| disagreed,Yankee
Lexy had a solid point.
That Member was actually admitting downloading Braindumps, then turn around and accusing others to be cheaters.
I stand 100% behind Lexy's decision.
and that is my 2 cents, take them to the Bank or not.
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| mikop 2004-03-05, 12:15 am |
| how easily we can dismiss the actual point that was being made and turn this into an easy "you are for or against dump". The point was not whether or not b is bad... the point is the "have your say and close the thread"
either leave it open for them to counter and have a fun go at some flame war, or just close it and leave it at that.
the abuse of power come from the
"hahaha, I have the last say! bye"
imo, the preferred method for a mod is to not get into an argument, that is better left to guys like me who has nothing better to do and are free to get nasty...
just close the thread with a simple matter of fact note of why and leave it at that, mod shouldn't invite flame and then shut it down, they are there to put out flame started by others....
anyway, I don't even know what thread this is referring to nor care anymore...
the gimpest move tho by a mod was the editing of my post to appear that I am saying something contrary to my original statement and then closing the thread, which occur in one of the MS forum and we all known which gimp mod that.
ok, enuff with my useless rant | |
| Spides 2004-03-05, 5:34 am |
| At the end of the day I have admitted using braindumps on two Microsoft exams, but I used these with additonal studies and actually found the explanations on these dumps quite useful...I have never just used Q&A's to pass ANY exams......i would not be earning the salary I am now and the position I hold if I just cheated......Lexy at the end of the day follows any post I type and when I offer helpful advice he jumps straight on the cheat wagon.......I don't care much for him being a moderator, says a lot about this site to be honest | |
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| I'm with Yankee and mikop. I think a tad bit a power abuse is going on, and that needs to stop. | |
| smrkdown 2004-03-05, 7:46 am |
| Maybe he was preventing the flame war that was on the horizon. Nothing more was to come of it aside from more idiocy. | |
| Deja-vue 2004-03-05, 11:12 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by smrkdown
Maybe he was preventing the flame war that was on the horizon. Nothing more was to come of it aside from more idiocy.
agreed. | |
| ruscorp 2004-03-05, 11:34 am |
| I think Lexy is doing a fine job as CCNA mod. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-03-05, 1:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
I think Lexy is doing a fine job as CCNA mod.
Thanks ruscorp and thanks deja-vue.
I did close the thread before it got out of hand, usually I edit the comments in each post (Just check the Oracle forum) but I was in a rush and decided to simply close the thread.
As for Spides and his comments, this is someone who lies about moderators sending links to cheat websites.
And as for:
quote:
Originally posted by Spides
I don't care much for him being a moderator, says a lot about this site to be honest
If people like you don't care for me being a moderator then I take that as a compliment. It's because of you that moderators exist, ever though of that?
Sorry if I've offended you Spides, but I have no time for liars and hypocrites.
Thanks again to Deja and Russ for the support.
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| dmaftei 2004-03-05, 11:36 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Thanks ruscorp and thanks deja-vue.
I'm afraid both you and Deja-vue are missing Yankee's point. This is not about braindumps or cheaters, it's about abusing the power you guys have as moderators. IMHO you should avoid getting involved in flame wars altogether, and just close offending threads, or edit/remove offending posts, without comments. If you enjoy getting in flame wars (and trust me, I understand it, I've been there), then leave the thread open and give the flamed guy a chance to flame you.
Instead, in these two recent threads ("CCNA today" and "I need a good advice") you lashed out at somebody and then closed the thread... Hmm, that doesn't smell too good... It's your board and you run it the way you see fit, but you'll alienate a lot of reasonable people with this hit-and-run (aka flame-and-close) style.
A bon entendeur, salut! | |
| dmaftei 2004-03-05, 11:40 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Deja-vue
That Member was actually admitting downloading Braindumps, then turn around and accusing others to be cheaters.
So what?! Last time I checked freedom of speach was still around (at least in this part of the world).
And who's that talking character in your avatar?! | |
| dmaftei 2004-03-05, 11:47 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
I think Lexy is doing a fine job as CCNA mod.
Yeah, we all agree, except for the occasional flame-and-close slips...
NY Yankees suck!
NY Mets suck!
NY Jets suck!
NY Giants suck!
NY Knicks suck!
NY Islanders suck!
NY Rangers suck!
Did I miss any?!  | |
| ruscorp 2004-03-06, 3:17 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by dmaftei
Yeah, we all agree, except for the occasional flame-and-close slips...
NY Yankees suck!
NY Mets suck!
NY Jets suck!
NY Giants suck!
NY Knicks suck!
NY Islanders suck!
NY Rangers suck!
Did I miss any?!
As if I cared about any team you just mentioned except for the Yankees? | |
| Yankee 2004-03-06, 10:29 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Thanks ruscorp and thanks deja-vue.
I did close the thread before it got out of hand, usually I edit the comments in each post (Just check the Oracle forum) but I was in a rush and decided to simply close the thread.
Had you just simply closed the thread or as I prefered to do deleted it, I never would have said anything. It was your parting comment prior to closing it that bothered me but I noticed you avoided that part.
Editing people's comments is wrong too. If the post or thread is out of line then delete it because it should not be read.
Yankee | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-03-06, 10:44 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Yankee
It was your parting comment prior to closing it that bothered me but I noticed you avoided that part.
Editing people's comments is wrong too. If the post or thread is out of line then delete it because it should not be read.
Yankee
Haven't avoided anything, I did state that was in a rush and closed the thread. It appears that most people are concerned with the fact that the thread was closed after I made a comment as opposed to the content of the thread itself.
Most people have too much time on their hands. | |
| smrkdown 2004-03-06, 11:03 am |
| I wonder if anyone is losing sleep over this... | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-03-06, 11:05 am |
| I know someone else who isn't.
Guess that makes two of us.
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| ruscorp 2004-03-06, 5:04 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by smrkdown
I wonder if anyone is losing sleep over this...
I did. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-03-06, 5:25 pm |
| Sorry my friend, I had no intention of upsetting you.
At least you will sleep better tonight.
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| ruscorp 2004-03-06, 9:16 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Sorry my friend, I had no intention of upsetting you.
At least you will sleep better tonight.
I had a couple of beers and passed out. No big deal. | |
| JohnDeere 2004-03-07, 10:55 am |
| There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep a certification website free of dumps. The editing of links is a great way to try to stop it. | |
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| ruscorp 2004-03-07, 6:49 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by prezbedard
2 beers and you're out? weaner!!
Black and tan baby! | |
| Spides 2004-03-08, 5:20 am |
| quote:
Sorry if I've offended you Spides, but I have no time for liars and hypocrites.
You haven't offended me at all Lexy, I too do not have time for liars or hypocrites.......but I have no intention of attempting to change your mind, your opinion will not change of me, or mine of yours........so I guess this is forgotten, I would just appreciate you not following my replies and chucking cheap quotes in of cheating..................if you have nothing to say, say nothing nothing at all...........let's get on with the show... | |
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| well this is a tough one here people.
On the one hand we have a mod doing his job, which is getting rid of stuff that is clearly not wanted by this community.
On the other hand we have valued and respected members of said community taking hombrage over the way the mod did his job.
I guess I would offer the following remarks:
1. A mod doing his job is better than no mod
2. A mod going "too far" while doing his job is better than no mod
3. "Too far" needs to be defined.
a. If too far means taking a spammer to task and changing his text to make fun of him, I am all for it.
b. If too far means being disrepctful to a forum user, then it needs to be looked at in a case by case
4. Closing a thread after a Mod edits a message is cool by me. I do it all the time. It takes care of the flame wars that always erupt. Let's face it, that's what a Mod's job also is: preventive work. We take on the people who bring negative attention and posts to the forum. And for that we take a lot of heat.
So I think that my position on the matter - since, yes, I was contacted and asked for it - is that this is all a big waste.
Lexy is a moderator with his heart in the right place, and I sure hope that he continues to moderate around here. I do not always agree with him and I am sure that he does not always agree with me either. But I have learned from him and his posts.
Yankee and Dmaftei are fabulous members of this forum, and their interest in this situation is one born of their caring for the community they helped build. Both have been instrumental to this forum for a long time. For that I thank them both. Again, I have learned a lot from them.
So I hope that instead of pointing the finger and accusing each party of something really evil, that Lexy can take a step back and honestly look at the requests put forth by these valued members and take them into account.
And I hope that the members who take offense to some of Lexy's posts and/or methods can look at the broad spectrum of his work for this community as well and keep that in mind.
Man, I rock.
ha ha ha. | |
| forbesl 2004-04-19, 4:57 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
Lexy is a moderator with his heart in the right place, and I sure hope that he continues to moderate around here.
<sound of hands clapping and people cheering>
Well put, freak! | |
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| dmaftei 2004-04-19, 5:31 pm |
| Since I'm the one who "pushed" freak to post this, here's the answer...
freak said:
1. A mod doing his job is better than no mod
Right.
freak said:
2. A mod going "too far" while doing his job is better than no mod
Probably right...
freak said:
a. If too far means taking a spammer to task and changing his text to make fun of him, I am all for it.
Wrong. The moderator should moderate, not make fun of regular members.
freak said:
b. If too far means being disrepctful to a forum user, then it needs to be looked at in a case by case
Wrong. Disrespectful, as in personal attacks and offensive language, is specifically prohibited by the forum rules, and all registered users (moderators included) agreed to obey those rules. There's no room for case by case here.
freak said:
4. Closing a thread after a Mod edits a message is cool by me.
Depends. If edit means removing a post (completely or parts of it), that's OK. If edit means inserting a "you're a moron, get a live...", that's wrong, it's an abuse.
freak said:
Lexy is a moderator with his heart in the right place...
But wrong means, as far as I'm concerned.
freak said:
And I hope that the members who take offense to some of Lexy's posts and/or methods can look at the broad spectrum of his work for this community as well and keep that in mind.
My objection is very narrowly focused on the flame-and-close issue.
freak said:
Man, I rock.
You certainly do, freak. | |
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| Hey bud, thanks for the answer.
I am not sure you are bringing *the* answer. *Your* answer, for sure
This being said, I tend to disagree with you on a couple of your answers.
I said "spammer", not "regular member". Big difference.
Case by case basis is important to me because it involves the context of a thread, not just an actual post.
Looking at just one aspect of Lexy's mod job is unfair imho. Trying to help him be a better mod by pointing out one aspect of it is constructive. Pointing the finger is not.
This being said, I think that we are much closer in terms of how we think about this issue than you seem to realize.
As for "abuse", again the defining factor to me is towards whom said abuse is directed.
An interesting conversation, and one that, as a mod, brings me to think about how I mod my fora... and if only for that, I thank you  | |
| forbesl 2004-04-19, 5:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by dmaftei
Wrong. The moderator should moderate, not make fun of regular members.
Wrong. Disrespectful, as in personal attacks and offensive language, is specifically prohibited by the forum rules, and all registered users (moderators included) agreed to obey those rules. There's no room for case by case here.
But wrong means, as far as I'm concerned.
Keep up the good work, Lexy! Sometimes, when a few people think you're wrong, it means your doing something RIGHT! | |
| dmaftei 2004-04-19, 6:24 pm |
| freak said:
I am not sure you are bringing *the* answer. *Your* answer, for sure
Definitely! I've never claimed to be the holder of the absolute truth. These are my opinions, that's all.
freak said:
Looking at just one aspect of Lexy's mod job is unfair imho.
I don't think so. Being a moderator entails a lot of responsabilites, and maybe the most important is the power to resist the urge to lash at others. I do understand the urge, I just don't think it fits a moderator.
freak said:
This being said, I think that we are much closer in terms of how we think about this issue than you seem to realize.
Oh, I think I do realize it. I looked at Network+ and at your own board, and I didn't find anything objectionable in the way you're running those.
freak said:
As for "abuse", again the defining factor to me is towards whom said abuse is directed.
We won't reconcile here. Abuse is abuse, no matter towards whom it's directed. You don't right a wrong with another wrong...
Oh yeah, maybe I should clarify what I think is and is not abuse.
- removing a post that's obvious spam or offensive is not abuse.
- closing the thread containing a post that's obvious spam or offensive, without giving any explanation, is not abuse.
- editing a post like in explaining why you close the thread, then closing the thread, is not abuse.
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, and leaving the thread open, is hardly acceptable, but I do not think it's abuse.
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, then closing the thread, that I think is abuse.
My 2 cents. | |
| forbesl 2004-04-19, 7:15 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by dmaftei
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, and leaving the thread open, is hardly acceptable, but I do not think it's abuse.
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, then closing the thread, that I think is abuse.
Well, sometimes you gotta burn the grass to get rid of the thatch.
Maybe these things just might deter stupid morons and idiots from posting in this forum. | |
| edmonds_robert 2004-04-19, 10:06 pm |
| You know, if this was an isolated incident, I wouldn't think it was a big deal. But Lex has done it before, and I'm sure he'll do it again. And he has the nerver to tell OTHERS to get a life! Sheeeesh. | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by dmaftei
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, and leaving the thread open, is hardly acceptable, but I do [b]not think it's abuse.
- editing a post like in telling the poster he's a stupid moron and an idiot who should get a life, then closing the thread, that I think is abuse.
So according to this, the abuse comes from closing the thread without leaving the spammer a chance to retort?
I disagree. That's the mod's job to close the thread once a spammer has been put back in their place so that we stop the onslaught of posts that invariably arize...
The question to me is more in terms of the vocab used prior to closing the thread.
And I will reiterate that, as far as I am concerned, it is OK to give spammers a hard time. It's another thing altogether if the subject of the verbal venom is a regular user. That I do not condone in any way, unless they had it coming | |
| stnosc 2004-04-20, 9:55 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by dmaftei
So what?! Last time I checked freedom of speach was still around (at least in this part of the world).
I've been reading some of your posts in other threads, and in a few of them it looks like you wish to limit precisely what you are advocating in the above quote.
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| dmaftei 2004-04-20, 11:35 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
So according to this, the abuse comes from closing the thread without leaving the spammer a chance to retort?
Nope. It comes from closing the thread after inserting some sort of offensive comment.
quote:
Originally posted by freak
It's another thing altogether if the subject of the verbal venom is a regular user.
When is a user a spammer, and when is a user a regular? Do 13 posts qyalify a user as regular? Suppose the 14th post from a user reads "Good havens, I passed. I used Todd Lammle and Cisco press and www.somebraindumpssite.com to prepare." Is that a spammer or a regular user? Would you, freak, replace that post with something like "You're another brain-dumps looser. Go away.", then close the thread? Was that spam? Was that posting actual questions from the exam? That actually happened here...
quote:
Originally posted by stnosc
in a few of them it looks like you wish to limit precisely what you are advocating in the above quote.
If that's what it looks like in some of the posts, then in those cases I failed to convey the right message. What I would like to see limited -- or even better eliminated -- is what I consider abuse. | |
| freak 2004-04-20, 11:42 am |
| Let me make myself clear. If someone passed a test and tells us that he used a braindump to achieve their "success", I will not congratulate them. I will tell them that I am sorry they short-changed themselves. I will not abuse them either. I will take out a link to a braindump site in their post if there is one, and I will insert a message saying "We don't allow those links in this forum."
If the posted is someone who *sells* braindump-related material under the guise of a study guide or a prep test CD, and they spam my board with their horsecrap, then I will edit their message, remove their original words, and write something in there that some may consider offensive. I will then proceed to close the thread, because there is no need to continue with it.
I condone the latter. I do not condone the former.
This being said, you wrote that editing a user's message with nasty remarks is not abuse, but doing the same and then closing the thread is abuse. That's why I wrote that the only difference between the two is the fact that the thread was closed. I still disagree with that. A mod can close a thread any darn time they want to if they deem it to be for the best interest of the community, whether it be after they posted a message or not. It's a judgement call, and we don't expect all to agree with it, but if it saves 5 pages of flames and useless posts, then I see that as a winning move everytime. | |
| dmaftei 2004-04-20, 12:12 pm |
| freak,
I'm not questioning the way you're running your forums; I'm protesting what's happening in this forum. As edmonds_robert said, we're not talking about an isolated incident, we have a trend here. And if I were the only one to be bothered, I would think there's something wrong with me. But there are others who aparently have the same concerns, and some of them voiced their concerns. I don't think we're debating a non-issue. You know, there's no smoke without a fire... | |
| freak 2004-04-20, 12:18 pm |
| I understand where you are coming from. My concern is two fold: one, I am not lexy's "boss" as it were, and I cannot intervene to make him mod one way or another. He and I can talk about it, but ultimately, it's between him and the owner of this site.
Second, my stance in this has been the same since the beginning. I do not want to see this as a them against him type of scenario. I think it leads nowhere.
I am more interested in getting both parties together to head shed and see how we can positively resolve this, so that the Mod continues to mod, and the users are more comfortable with the situation. I don't mind acting as a go between in this dialog, but that is all I can do. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2004-04-20, 12:40 pm |
| freak: you're an excellent mediator man. Excellent! dmaftei & co. just agree with this point and stop it:
quote:
I do not want to see this as a them against him type of scenario. I think it leads nowhere.
I don't think that'll get you anywhere either.
. ...now why is it the French always lost victory  , or is that just.... | |
| freak 2004-04-20, 12:42 pm |
| don't go there | |
| dmaftei 2004-04-20, 12:45 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
I am more interested in getting both parties together to head shed and see how we can positively resolve this
Yeah... Well, I've been bashing Lexy for a couple of days now, both here and in the "The ospf thread". I'd very much like to hear from him too. | |
| dmaftei 2004-04-20, 12:48 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
dmaftei & co. just agree with this point and stop it:
I'm done already. And I do agree with that point. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-04-21, 7:01 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by edmonds_robert
You know, if this was an isolated incident, I wouldn't think it was a big deal. But Lex has done it before, and I'm sure he'll do it again. And he has the nerver to tell OTHERS to get a life! Sheeeesh.
Ironic, huh?
What on earth is all the fuss about here? It is a case of not being able to do right for doing wrong.
Once I posted links to subnet calculators and a few PDFs and got flamed for encouraging people not to think, even though the thread was for those new to the CCNA. Every little helps and an understanding of the concepts helps to understand the practical advantages.
Then, offering advice so to avoid elicit material and get hands on experience was met with similar hostility.
The big picture, if you agree or not is that those selfish enough to cheat will predominately ruin it for the rest of us. Take a moment and think for a second about the state of the IT industry and what it was like, say five years ago.
Now, has the world managed to spawn all these computer wizards and IT gurus that pass exams first time, unassisted and knowledgeable in every aspect of IT, networking and administration?
Utopian maybe; realistically though, not a chance.
Regardless of recession, a depressed commerce or slump in employee investment the hard fact remains that the once affluent industry is torpid with no sign of recovery on the horizon.
I really do admire those just starting out who are committed to learning the trade and be faithful to honest learning as they have to compete with the brain dump merchants and cheats without being congenial to the ways of cheaters.
A technical interview will indeed prove those whom are sincere but with “qualified” engineers now a dime a dozen and jobs few and far between, employers can afford to be selective, and why pay top dollar when someone who had taken the easy way will work for less salary? With IT budgets slashed and that extra saving on the new engineer, companies can pick and choose at cost value.
Regardless of how the world should be and how it is, the two seldom meet.
I noticed that those quick enough to condone my actions on here have not mentioned that the same rules apply to the oracle forum and have you been there lately?
Having received numerous thank you messages from members regarding the Ed hasking scam, that forum is moderated in exactly the same fashion but no one there complains, why is that?
You can’t please everyone, why bother? It only ends in failure.
Perhaps we all need to lighten up or get out more. Life away from the keyboard and monitor would do us all the world of good.
If I really needed a life or objected to anyone, this thread would have been closed a long time ago, don’t you think?
I don’t see the point of this anymore.
Take care all. Jeff had the right idea two months ago. Check out the Windows 2003 forum and follow his lead. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-21, 7:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Take care all. Jeff had the right idea two months ago. Check out the Windows 2003 forum and follow his lead.
Windows 2003 forum on EN? | |
| dmaftei 2004-04-21, 9:55 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
What on earth is all the fuss about here?
I'm impressed by your concern for the future of the IT industry, and I'm really sorry to hear you were flamed and otherwise abused while trying to help others. That doesn't justify your "style", though...
Anyway, maybe something good did come out of "all the fuss" you don't know about. I noticed the "Question writers wanted!" thread was closed with a very polite comment from you. Good signs! | |
| nethead 2004-04-23, 7:35 am |
| I think that whatever attitude you take to this stuff there will always be someone who disagrees - you just can't make everybody happy it's not possible.
It's good that the mod here is on top of all the dumpers and there will always be people who get pissed off with the response to their posts on this.
Overall I think its worth understanding how your point can be interpreted. When holding a face to face conversation with someone then there are three things that you use to get across your meaning - words, tone and body language. Overall only about 10-20% of the meaning of what you are saying is interpretted through the actual words, the remainder is tone and body language. Therefore a lot of potential understanding/interpretation is lost on a forum and you should be particularly aware of this when making some posts - how easy is it to tell the difference between sarcasm and rudeness when you don't know the person for example?
I know this is a bit off topic but it's a point that needs to be made.
Anyway I don't agree with everything Lexy does but overall I think he does a great job. | |
| worrywarm 2004-05-03, 1:53 am |
| Lexy, as a mod, you should have a open mind and heart. All things that benefits the forum and most members should be encouraged, otherwise should be restricted and quenched.
However, if there is a spark in this forum, you would puff it to make a fire. You take things too personal and forget your neutral stance. YOU are NOT qualified to be a mod.
my 2 cents. | |
| Yankee 2004-05-03, 4:59 am |
| that's a major reason I'm not posting much in this forum any more.
Yankee | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 6:56 am |
| Having explained the problem and given the reason behind my actions, people still persist.
If I had a problem then this thread would have been closed a long time ago.
Visit this forum or stay away. Post threads or refrain.
This choice is yours.
I don't think most people should be members on here but I'm polite enough to keep my opinions to myself on that matter. | |
| freak 2004-05-03, 10:13 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I don't think most people should be members on here but I'm polite enough to keep my opinions to myself on that matter.
Lexy, I disagree with that statement.
1. I think that most people who come *should* be members. This community works because we have several types of people: those who ask questions, those who answer, and those who graduate from asking to answering. This is a symbiosis of sorts that insures the dynamic quality of the site.
2. As mods, it is not for us to worry about who should be a member or not. That's for the site owner to decide. Our role is to make sure that actual members *comments* do not violate the rules. If they were to violate said rules too often, then it is our job to bring this member to the attention of the site owner, who can then decide what to do with their status.
On a side note, I would like to see mods able to ban members, but that functionality has not been awarded to us yet  | |
| worrywarm 2004-05-03, 10:26 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Having explained the problem and given the reason behind my actions, people still persist.
If I had a problem then this thread would have been closed a long time ago.
Visit this forum or stay away. Post threads or refrain.
This choice is yours.
I don't think most people should be members on here but I'm polite enough to keep my opinions to myself on that matter.
lexy, from your words, we can tell that you take your role as a abusive privilege. What kind of people do you think are qualified to be MEMBERS?
As the freak said, it's owners' decision and you don't really have the authorities to rstrict people to be memebers. Except that you can ban those who break the rules of the forum.
Those senior members going away can go any other forums. The real loss is the forum and other junior members, and you - proven to be a failure. | |
| forbesl 2004-05-03, 10:46 am |
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Originally posted by worrywarm
lexy, from your words, we can tell that you take your role as a abusive privilege. What kind of people do you think are qualified to be MEMBERS?
As the freak said, it's owners' decision and you don't really have the authorities to rstrict people to be memebers. Except that you can ban those who break the rules of the forum.
Those senior members going away can go any other forums. The real loss is the forum and other junior members, and you - proven to be a failure.
Three words for ya...
GET OVER IT | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 11:22 am |
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Originally posted by freak
On a side note, I would like to see mods able to ban members, but that functionality has not been awarded to us yet
It's funny how I can't move topics or delete some threads. I only have the ability to edit at most. | |
| freak 2004-05-03, 11:32 am |
| I often think that if they want me to mod, they need to give me the tools to do so... | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 12:50 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
I often think that if they want me to mod, they need to give me the tools to do so...
Take a look.
I can't even use that check box to delete the post at the top. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 1:01 pm |
| I've noticed that.
Strange how the options are limited. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 1:07 pm |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I've noticed that.
Strange how the options are limited.
All I can do is open/close and edit. Nothing else. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 1:09 pm |
| Perhaps they are trying to tell us something?
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| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 1:12 pm |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
Perhaps they are trying to tell us something?
I would like to make some sticky threads about commonly asked questions however it would seem I don't have the power to do so in any of my forums. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 1:15 pm |
| I agree especially threads that contain information for newcomers and those that contain invaluable information. | |
| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 1:22 pm |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I agree especially threads that contain information for newcomers and those that contain invaluable information.
Apparently I have just half-asred powers. I thought a good FAQ would help ease the commonly asked questions. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 1:23 pm |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Apparently I have just half-asred powers. I thought a good FAQ would help ease the commonly asked questions.
It's put my mind at rest!
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| ruscorp 2004-05-03, 2:00 pm |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
It's put my mind at rest!
Good show 'ol chap!
Carry on. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-03, 4:10 pm |
| This place is getting more like the general forum every day.
All we need is Enforcer and it's all downhill from that point on.
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| Yankee 2004-05-03, 9:04 pm |
| It's like a general forum because the moderators aside from Skipster (who has been gone for at least three maybe four years) are incapable of answering a technical question. Maybe you can make Forbes a moderator because I remember him when he first arrived here as a newbie a couple years ago (when I gave him advice) with the same name and now he claims to be a gifted tech. Yes he reset his account but it is the same young man who was here not long ago and is now challenging the elders. You two can make a great pair preparing people for their CCNA exams. Maybe Lexy will even make his first technical post ever, but don't you new people here should not hold your hold your breath or count on its accuracy.....
I shall watch the CCNP and CCIE forums for a while if people want tech answers on subjects I know. I am sure those that have gone silent like Dmaf and Darth will assist.
Yankee | |
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Originally posted by Yankee
It's like a general forum because the moderators aside from Skipster (who has been gone for at least three maybe four years) are incapable of answering a technical question. Maybe you can make Forbes a moderator because I remember him when he first arrived here as a newbie a couple years ago (when I gave him advice) with the same name and now he claims to be a gifted tech. Yes he reset his account but it is the same young man who was here not long ago and is now challenging the elders. You two can make a great pair preparing people for their CCNA exams. Maybe Lexy will even make his first technical post ever, but don't you new people here should not hold your hold your breath or count on its accuracy.....
I shall watch the CCNP and CCIE forums for a while if people want tech answers on subjects I know. I am sure those that have gone silent like Dmaf and Darth will assist.
Yankee
This is the kind of sniping I was hoping we could stay away from.
This said, I will be the first in line to read your stuff in the afore-mentioned fora. | |
| forbesl 2004-05-04, 8:04 am |
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Originally posted by Yankee
Maybe you can make Forbes a moderator because I remember him when he first arrived here as a newbie a couple years ago (when I gave him advice) with the same name and now he claims to be a gifted tech. Yes he reset his account but it is the same young man who was here not long ago and is now challenging the elders.
Well, well, well.....jackasses CAN type!
Aside from the fact that I am not a young man, and didn't join this forum until a few months ago, I have NEVER once claimed in the forum "I AM A GIFTED TECH". Your job, it seems, is to take my responses and put them in your own words, making it seem like I don't know what I'm talking about (to your advantage, of course). We can't anyone offering advice except the Almighty Yankee can we?
As far as the "elders" statement, I just gotta laugh. If you seriously think that anyone who has thousands of posts in this forum is an "elder", you need to get over yourself. Any 20-something geek can do that.
By the way, "forbes" is a common name. I should think that the newbie you were speaking about could have been any one of the thousands of forbes' in the world. | |
| freak 2004-05-04, 10:45 am |
| Guys, although I don't mod this forum, I'm gonna ask you to take a deep breath and take it easy. You clearly don't like each other, and that's fine, but please don't flame away in public threads. Either ignore each other or use the PM function | |
| Sexy Lexy 2004-05-04, 2:12 pm |
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[i] Maybe Lexy will even make his first technical post ever, but don't you new people here should not hold your hold your breath or count on its accuracy.....
Yankee [/B]
I decided to let this thread run the course and see if those that have been casting aspersions can maintain dignity whilst pointing the finger at others.
Several members have an omnipotence that they feel should be displayed regardless of others and their opinions.
Yankee if you don’t like the way the forum is moderated then stay away, you are not the moderator so get over it. Spend your time more constructively.
I was under the impression that I may have been wrong regarding certain threads on here but after your reply I have realised the opposite. You have voiced your opinion in the same way that I did but will anyone be jumping on that bandwagon asking you to quit as a member?
Double standards are prevalent on here regarding certain members.
Thanks to freak and forbsl.
Thread closed, grow up. |
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