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640-801 or 640-811?
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| Spielfreek 2004-03-24, 5:34 pm |
| Anyone got any views on the relative ease/difficulty of these 2 exams. I just failed with 801 on the 811 exam and wondered what the 801 was like. I simply ran out of time, so I'm thinking that the 801 might give me a better chance. Have got Todd Book and Cisco's but that doesn't seem to have done the trick!
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| smrkdown 2004-03-24, 6:56 pm |
| One of the biggest complaints that I've heard about the 640-801 is people not having enough time to finish the exam. What type of questions seemed to take you the longest? | |
| Spielfreek 2004-03-24, 7:38 pm |
| Thanks for the reply - this is exactly what happened to me - just ran out of time. I (possibly foolishly) skipped the only simulation which came up as I had about 15 mins to do 18 questions so I decided to grab the opportunity to tackle the rest of the exam (for the experience). I didn't mark the last question in time and had 30 seconds for the last 3 questions. The simulation was an access-control list - 3 routers I think. I knew this would take time so I skipped it. The ones which took the longest were the access-lists, and looking for routes in the routing tables to determine how many routers were participating in RIP. Have to say, the phrasing of that question was dubious, as I didn't know whether to include the one I was "looking" at. Eventually I did include it, but who knows if that was right...! About 4 questions on OSPF and one was how to configure it - not unreasonable I thought. So, in summary, I think I was short of about 10 minutes (really for the simulation) which is a bad percentage of 60! Not bitter though. Just don't know how I can speed it up. That the real problem I face. Lots of sunetting. That can be pretty quick for me now (15 secs for anything.... but then it's not just one selection. They phrase it so you have to check (say) 3 answers, and you have to do 3 checks for one question. I had done so many practice questions that at least 2 came up almost word for word ... and I still ran out of time. Glad to read you passed though. Really well done.  trouble is my jobs on the line if I don't pass, so you can f-e-e-l the pressure! | |
| smrkdown 2004-03-24, 8:39 pm |
| Hmmm. As far as speeding up access-list evaluation, when you are viewing an access-list and there is no permit statment present, you don't have to bother reading all of you options because you know that all trafic either entering or exiting an interface (depending on placement) is going to be denied. You also know that if certain traffic is to be denied and all other traffic is to be permitted then all access-lists without a "permit ip any any" statement at the end are no going to work. If you are required to filter based on source and destination addresses then you can quickly rule out any standard access-list since they can only filter based on the source. Access-list placement should be a relatively quick decision if you remember that standard ACLs should be placed as close to the destination as possible and that extended ACLs should be placed as close to the source as possible. Hope that helps. I don't know what other advice to offer as far as speed aside from practice but I wouldn't count on the 640-801 to be any less time consuming than the 811. Check out CCNA CertSim by RouterSim at http://www.routersim.com. It is very similar in format to the real exam (including simulations) and I think practicing with realistic testing software is a great benefit. | |
| Spielfreek 2004-03-24, 9:04 pm |
| Thanks for the reply - this is exactly what happened to me - just ran out of time. I (possibly foolishly) skipped the only simulation which came up as I had about 15 mins to do 18 questions so I decided to grab the opportunity to tackle the rest of the exam (for the experience). I didn't mark the last question in time and had 30 seconds for the last 3 questions. The simulation was an access-control list - 3 routers I think. I knew this would take time so I skipped it. The ones which took the longest were the access-lists, and looking for routes in the routing tables to determine how many routers were participating in RIP. Have to say, the phrasing of that question was dubious, as I didn't know whether to include the one I was "looking" at. Eventually I did include it, but who knows if that was right...! About 4 questions on OSPF and one was how to configure it - not unreasonable I thought. So, in summary, I think I was short of about 10 minutes (really for the simulation) which is a bad percentage of 60! Not bitter though. Just don't know how I can speed it up. That the real problem I face. Lots of sunetting. That can be pretty quick for me now (15 secs for anything.... but then it's not just one selection. They phrase it so you have to check (say) 3 answers, and you have to do 3 checks for one question. I had done so many practice questions that at least 2 came up almost word for word ... and I still ran out of time. Glad to read you passed though. Really well done. trouble is my jobs on the line if I don't pass, so you can f-e-e-l the pressure! | |
| Spielfreek 2004-03-24, 10:12 pm |
| Whoops - problem with the browser there (anyone don't know how to delete a duplicate message?).
BTW, I did get stuffed with OSPF - a choice of "router ospf 0", or "router ospf 1". Had a look on the Cisco web site - the found the numbering can be 1-65555. Damn! And I understand it's not really very important (unless you're taking the exam!!). I mean, technically all numbering systems start at zero! Ah well, c'est la vie. |
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