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osamoz2003

2004-01-26, 1:25 pm

i passed CCNA and got my certify it's nice
at 6-Nov-2003,

Since that date till now i'm Looking for CCNP but i dont know more detail and i dont know how i can start and from where..
i know there is four exams ?

anyway if any one can discuss this for me..
and tell me how to start and how to prapare for this exams..

Thanks in advance for any help

Samo
psimon

2004-01-29, 5:29 am

Samo,

Firstly, congratulations on passing your CCNA. Now onto the CCNP.

First I would suggest that you visit the cisco website in order to obtain a full understanding of the objectives of each exam.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning.../> ms_list.html

The CCNP certification is made up of either four or three exams.

If you follow the four exam track you will need to complete the following

BSCI = Building Scalable Cisco Internetworks
BCMSN = Building Cisco Multilayer Switch Networks
BCRAN = Building Cisco Remote Acess Networks
CIT = Cisco Internetworking Troubleshooting.

Cisco strongly recommend you tackle the exams as indicated above.

Alternatively you may follow the three exam track.

Composite exam = Includes both BSCI and BCMSN
BCRAN
CIT

Tackle this track if you are strong on routing and switching!

For study guides I used the following

For BCMSN I used the latest Cisco Press Exam Certification Guide as my sole source of book prep. In addition I use one of the Boson test exams to check readiness.

For BSCI I used the Cisco Press Exam Certification Guide and the Sybex CCNP BSCI study guide. I strongly recommend this approach. The Cisco Press book provides good in depth explanations of BGP / IS-IS / EIGRP but provides very little in practical exercises (configurations etc.). This is where the Sybex book comes into its own.
Also the Cisco Press book is extremely, and I mean extremely, weak on NAT and NAT configuration.

For the BCRAN and CIT again I have only used the Cisco Press books.

In addition you really will need to have some routers and switches to play around with. For this level you do not need anything that fancy. Some 2501's (with enough memory and 12.0 IOS or later) a 2523 to perform as a Frame Switch. A catalyst switch or two, must make sure it is using CAT IOS, so go for a 2950 or 3550.

Hope that helps

Psimon
osamoz2003

2004-01-30, 1:26 am

THanks alot psimon for preciouce info.
i'll start in Feb ensha'allah

wishing for uyo best of the best

Samo
NewTecker

2004-01-30, 8:11 pm

This is for the guy who asked about the CCNA exam. The CCNA is a really simple test that almost anyone can pass with just a week worth of study. Most highschool students now days get their CCNA before they graduate I Am sure someone as yourself would have no problem getting your CCNA. very basic stuff that any moron with half a brain could pass.

The CCNP however is a bit harder and might take a couple more weeks to study for but shouldn't be to hard if you just spend an extra week studying for it.

Good luck
scooter

2004-01-31, 8:44 am

quote:
Originally posted by NewTecker
This is for the guy who asked about the CCNA exam. The CCNA is a really simple test that almost anyone can pass with just a week worth of study. Most highschool students now days get their CCNA before they graduate I Am sure someone as yourself would have no problem getting your CCNA. very basic stuff that any moron with half a brain could pass.




Are you serious? I beg to differ.
xakeP

2004-01-31, 6:15 pm

I also beg to differ. I have basic cisco router, but I bought the new 2book cisco press set for ccna 640-801 and they are pretty thick.

I strongly doubt I will be able to tackle all the ccna objectives with confidence with a weeks worth of studying.
smrkdown

2004-01-31, 8:51 pm

Yes, I doubt NewTecker has take or passed either the CCNA or the CCNP. I've also never seen any local high school students with CCNA's or any IT certification for that matter. I also don't believe any students in my college have their CCNA.

You need to study and should have some form of hands-on experience.
mikop

2004-01-31, 9:05 pm

most decent high school has cisco academy courses, as well as A+ type courses.

many high school student do have ccna and various comptia certifications.

I think in general ppl over estimate the difficulty of the exams, especially entry level stuff like ccna.

for the intended audience, which is someone who has 6 months to 1 year of practical experience working on a network, a week of true study is very likely. CCNP level is quite easy also and for the right (or its intended )candidate, a week or so of targetted study is quite plausible.

But having a certificate mean sh*t so who cares about if x or y can do it in a week or 2...

This dude is 15, who cares... imagine if you actually discuss something halfway serious with a 15 year old kid in real life... but heh a teenager prolly has more experience with technology stuff than many of the 30 year old something ex plumber career changer...
smrkdown

2004-01-31, 9:12 pm

Hmmm. Maybe the entire state of Pennsylvania is just that damn far behind... But I somehow doubt that.
mikop

2004-01-31, 9:13 pm

well... I do consider pennsylvania just slightly ahead of states like idaho and the dakotas...
mikop

2004-01-31, 9:19 pm

- the Networking Academy has spread to more than 145 countries and all 50 U.S. states. Over 260,000 students have enrolled at more than 9800 Academies located in high schools, technical schools, colleges, universities, and community-based organizations.

http://cisco.netacad.net/public/new.../JordanBoy.html
But Bulgarian schoolboy Jordan Katzarov is not just any 13-year-old. When he enrolled in the Cisco Networking Academy Program, he was already an accomplished computer technician, looking to widen his horizons to include in-depth network skills. Now 14, he's already completed the first four courses of the program, passed his Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA), enrolled in CCNP classes and won an award as one of his country's top students.
smrkdown

2004-01-31, 9:44 pm

Did you know than an ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain?
Yankee

2004-02-02, 5:25 am

quote:
Originally posted by smrkdown
Did you know than an ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain?


Same is true of many CCNAs I know...

Yankee
Larak

2004-02-02, 4:48 pm

NewTecker is mistaken.

I work closely with CCNA and CCNP students. The "old" exam was difficult but not a killer, however it did require a lot more than one week of study.

The latest exam is harder and the new CCNA 3.0 is supposed to be the most difficult.

There is no comparison between A+, net+, etc and Cisco Exams.

Like all teenagers he will one day learn about real life. Let's hope that he keeps his enthusiasm.
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