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| Hello,
I failed the first time I tried the CCNA test. I am now planning to retake it in a while. I was using the Dutch translated version of the Sybex study kit. It turns out that at least the translated version lacks several important study items.
There was one question where and administrator had copied and pasted the configuration for a router but it did not work. Among the answers were that you had to do a copy run start and that you had to include a no shutdown. There was one answer you needed to give so I did not know which one I had to give because I felt both were correct. Now it turns out that the commands you issue in terminal configuration mode are effective immediately, something the Sybex book does not mention.
So do you feel that no shutdown should be the correct answer? And does anyone know of any good dumps besides testking?
TIA | |
| jason892 2003-07-08, 10:26 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sobje
Now it turns out that the commands you issue in terminal configuration mode are effective immediately, something the Sybex book does not mention.
TIA
I thought that the commands you entered in global config didn't take effect until you ctrl-z'd (or exited enough) back to privilaged exec. Then the router would update the running config. | |
| phatwookie 2003-07-08, 4:58 pm |
| I still think that you need to perform the "no shut" command.
This is how I see the question.
When you do a sh run on the router that you are pasting from. The "no shut" command is not listed in the configuration file. So when you paste the config from the old router into the new one, it lacks the "no shutdown " command. So to get the interface working, you need to manually enter it.
I don't think this question has that much to do with commands taking effect right away. Just my 2 cents.
I'm taking this bad boy on Friday. I have put it off for 3 years, note my moniker registration date (2000). | |
| phatwookie 2003-07-08, 6:44 pm |
| I still think that you need to perform the "no shut" command.
This is how I see the question.
When you do a sh run on the router that you are pasting from. The "no shut" command is not listed in the configuration file. So when you paste the config from the old router into the new one, it lacks the "no shutdown " command. So to get the interface working, you need to manually enter it.
I don't think this question has that much to do with commands taking effect right away. Just my 2 cents.
I'm taking this bad boy on Friday. I have put it off for 3 years, note my moniker registration date (2000). | |
| jason892 2003-07-09, 6:16 am |
| I agree that you would have to enter the no shut command for the interface to come up, but you shouldn't have to do a copy run start. That question says you have to do a no shut and copy run start. It also doesn't clearly say what isn't working. Even if you issue a no shut command, if you don't exit back out to the privilaged exec prompt, it doesn't take effect, does it? I'm asking, as I'm not quite sure.
p.s. sobje, if you wan't help from these guys you may not want to make reference to dump sites. | |
| sukuvi 2003-07-09, 10:42 am |
| Here are some things you need to know:
Changes you make take effect immediately because they are automatically saved into the "running-config". And if you don't want to lose those changes if the router reboots for any reason, you'll need to save the new changes to the "startup-config" by issuing the command "copy running-config startup-config". This means the new changes take effect whether or not you issue that command because the changes are already in the "running-config".
This will be clear once you understand the difference between "running-config" (running) and "startup-config" (startup). When you start the router it loads the contents of the startup from NVRAM into RAM. The contents of the startup in RAM is the running and this is erased when the router is turned off or rebooted. The startup is saved in NVRAM so it is always available even if the router is off. So if you make any changes, these changes are immediately added to the running but not to the startup, this is why they take effect immediately. While the router is on, it uses the running but not the startup. It only needs the startup when it is booting and needs to copy it into RAM (running-config) and that's it. This is why if you make changes and you do not save it in the startup, these changes are lost once the router is rebooted.
You need the "no shutdown" only if you make some changes on an interface. One of such changes is setting an IP address. Any time you set or reset an IP address, the interface shuts itself down, this is why you have to always remember to enter "no shutdown". If you forget it won't work till you go back to that "interface configuration" and enter the command.
Also, the "no shutdown" command takes effect the moment you hit "enter" so whether or not you exit the interface doesn't affect it. | |
| darthfeces 2003-07-09, 10:50 am |
| saving the config is irrelevant to the working state of the interface, but reload the router without saving and it will become relevant. | |
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| But does anyone who has take the exam recognize the question and agree with the answer being no shutdown. | |
| darthfeces 2003-07-10, 10:30 am |
| yes | |
| FunkDoctor 2003-07-11, 8:13 am |
| You have isuue the NO SHUTDOWN to enable the interface, which takes effect straight away cause your in Global config Mode. when finished you need to copy the running config to startup config COPY RUN START, other wise when you reload you'll be back to square 1.
I selected the NO SHUTDOWN, purely cause it was missing in my example.
I've take had an attempt, 835/1000. Next time!!
P.S. Dont' bother with dumps, do it the proper way + there never 100% accurate any way.
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