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| benfd_2002 2002-12-02, 5:54 am |
| Hi ppl
Just Pass CCNA 3.0 !!!
I will take a week for rest and carry on mcse 2000 track. I would like to trade off my examsoeasy ccna 3.0 640-607 q & a for mcse resource. eg. 70-210 70-215 70-216 70-217 70-219 70-228 70-229
Any one interested.. please email me
benfd_2002@yahoo.com.hk
Your faithfully
bb
(working for mcse 2000) | |
| ANDRONDA 2002-12-02, 9:54 am |
| Great work.
Before you embark on MCSE check with the MS cert page and plan out your courses. As we have discussed here many times in the past, if you plan it smart you can acheive MCSA and MCSE both by planning electives wisely. | |
| benfd_2002 2002-12-02, 10:19 am |
| Hi..
Thank for your info...
Do you have a good plan for me to follow..
Do you get any great info about getting the mcse 2000 fast...
Do you think Boxxn is helpful...to pass TestKing...is good enough ...? But, I found ExamsoEasy is cheaper than them... with bundle package..Can I trust again..
Can I trade off with you about mcse.. resource
Thank...
Please email me.. benfd_2002@yahoo.com.hk
BB | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-12-02, 10:53 am |
| Have you considered revising and studying instead of memorising questions and answers? | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-12-03, 3:03 am |
| Thank you for cheating! | |
| Sniper_HK 2003-01-03, 9:23 am |
| Sexy Lexy,
What is your problem dude, we pass exams no matter how? at the end we r the one who r certified, so whats a big deal.
dont try to dictate other ppl. losser. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-03, 9:31 am |
| The problem is that you don't deserve the certification as you have cheated to obtain it, in essence you have stolen something that doesn’t belong to you.
Secondly, those who have put in the time and effort for a legitimate pass will have their reputation tarnished by people like you who know nothing and expect to be paid for providing a terrible service.
Now who's the looser? | |
| Sniper_HK 2003-01-03, 10:57 am |
| Well Sexy Lexy,
I did not totaly depend on those material and on the case of certification I took proper clasess, training and 2.5 years of hands on experience on Win 2000 to achieve my goal.
So in this case its not cheating as you mention on your reply, my view point is that thos materials helps ppl who have less experience and plus they can gain knowledge because it close to the real world problem. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-03, 12:02 pm |
| That has to be the worst justification for using brain dumps that I have yet too see.
How can knowing the answers to question before the exam gain you knowledge towards real world problems?
You have not had to think or experience anything as you have been given the answer prior to sitting the exam.
As you "did not totally depend on those material" you must have used them as well.
However you attempt to justify your reply it is still cheating.
How do you think the rest of us got experience? Some of us are fortunate enough to be in a position to use Cisco equipment during the working day; others purchase routers for hands on experience and study at home by constructing a lab, which is invaluable experience.
This in turn supplements the learning, by what ever method you choose (official courses or Cisco / Sybex press,) to give you the knowledge and experience to pass the exam.
The Certification is to demonstrate your expertise in the chosen field, and to indicate that you possess the necessary skills to perform the job.
Brain dumps are not experience, they teach you to cheat.
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| mitchflorida 2003-01-03, 5:27 pm |
| Lexy,
What is taking you so long to take this cert test? I just passed it today with a 911 after just four weeks of preparation.
When will you be taking this Beast? Or have you taken it already???? | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-03, 5:39 pm |
| I'm not using testking, that's what's taking me so long 
I am using two 2503 routers, the Cisco press book and the Sybex book with hands on experience and good, old fashioned learning.
What's the rush anyway?
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| mitchflorida 2003-01-05, 11:26 am |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy
I'm not using testking, that's what's taking me so long
I am using two 2503 routers, the Cisco press book and the Sybex book with hands on experience and good, old fashioned learning.
What's the rush anyway?
While you are stuck on CCNA, I am moving on to the CCNP . . that is for the big boys . . Sorry you are having so much trouble with it . .. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-05, 11:35 am |
| You can impress the CCNP forum with your use of testking products.
My certification will mean something when I pass the exam, I had no idea this was a race to complete exams in the quickest time possible.
You collect certifications by whatever means necessary, my certifications indicate my skill and experience regarding the subject.
There is no way that you can learn everything needed for the CCNA in four weeks.
I guess the "boys" here are still a lot wiser than the old men. | |
| mikop 2003-01-05, 12:17 pm |
| heh. my impression of ccnp forum... a lot more unforgiving than this...
heh carry over from microsoft 219 forum 
capable non certified, or just ccna certified individual is way more valuable than paper ccnp... it is all about the approach... not some paper and letters... certainly you can take some q/a and pass ccnp level tests... what's the point? you want to be tech support with your shiny new ccnp cert? how will you do when you are asked to login a router... will you be able to pick up that console cable in the box?
certainly even without pratical hands on, there is value in learning the theories... book knowledge is worth something... but then don't lessen it with an accelerated study, legit or not... because it will bite you in the end... assuming most of us aspire to be something better... in our profession and in our cert pursuit... It is not about reading hte book as fast as you can in a few weeks, committing information to your short term memory, take the test... rely on *recognition* and not *recalling* to pass a multiple choice test and say you are done with it, and am moving on to bigger things... certainly I don't fault ppl who want to get it over with... and then study at their own path, explore possibilities that is outside the realm of the certification... (yes, my own cert pursuit is sort of accelerated...) however, this is distinct differences in passing the test to get it over with, reading more, always building on your knowledge... to passing the test with all *available tool*...
your certification goal should not be ccnp... that's simple enough to get. your goal should be ccie, and everything between now and the time you sit for the lab should lay the foundation... if you cheat yourself in the path to getting htere for some quickie satissfaction of a new cert and letters, you are just cheating yourself... it will come and bite you.
I think it was may or june when I made a post about how BGP owns me... well guess what, it still owns me... the more you learn, the more you recognize that you still do not know... the more you learn, the more complex the sceario it becomes... the more you learn, the enormity of the knowledge contain within this discipline becomes apparent... respect it and respect your own learning... | |
| mitchflorida 2003-01-06, 12:43 am |
| I have just completed the CCNA course in just four weeks .. others seem to want to make a career out of it.
I finally made it down to the book store to check out the CCNP books, and found that this is a little too obscure for me at this point. I ended up buying a Sybex text book for Exchange Server . . that will be my next Cert. It was nice knowing you!! | |
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| eeer so what if you take 4 weeks and others chose to take a comprehensive approach? I am sure if ppl put effort into memorizing it, you can pass the test in 1 day of studying a dump product.
and the thing is, you don't even get it... you looked at a ccnp book and find it too obscure... whereas ppl who do it right can take the book and see it as a natural progression after ccna level study.
As I stated previously, you are cheating yourself, do what you must do, but why are you putting ppl down because they chose to take however long it take to learn the stuff... passing the test is just that, memorizing 200 questions and answers and take your chances... if you have money for additional take, hell, I think percentages would be ok even if you just memorize 100 questions... 1 single day of effort. so... even at that level, your 4 weeks is not that impressive... so... it was nice not knowing you, hope I will never have to work with ya!! | |
| mitchflorida 2003-01-06, 1:37 am |
| UP YOURS | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-06, 4:26 am |
| Because everything that was stated in the post was true and in no way an insult, unlike your reply.
What on earth is next? Passing the exchange exam within two weeks?
I have been working on Exchange for the better part of two months and if you rush through that the same way you did the CCNA then I wouldn't want to work with you either.
Perhaps you could go for a test king cert, which would look great on the CV.
At the end of the day you are a cert hunter, not an IT professional. So you have no right to decry anyone else for not cheating, don’t judge others by your own standards some of us take our careers seriously.
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| iggy4270 2003-01-07, 6:54 am |
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Originally posted by Sexy Lexy - At the end of the day you are a cert hunter, not an IT professional. So you have no right to decry anyone else for not cheating, don’t judge others by your own standards some of us take our careers seriously.
Couldn't have said it better myself Lexy.  | |
| luisjo 2003-01-07, 7:09 am |
| At the end, he wont know what to do on a real job, i bet you (lexy) that mitchflorida be like a librarian mouse with a lot of books to try to solve a simple problem because he wont have the knoledge in his tiny brain to solve it because he didnt prepare right for the certs.
Good luck to you lexy. | |
| MaulerJ 2003-01-07, 12:23 pm |
| CAN'T WE ALL JUST SMOKE A BONG
I MEAN CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG | |
| Imran4sin 2003-01-08, 1:00 am |
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[QUOTE]Original post by (Sniper_HK)
Sexy Lexy,
What is your problem dude, we pass exams no matter how? at the end we r the one who r certified, so whats a big deal.
dont try to dictate other ppl. losser.[QUOTE]
Well dude!! Getting a decent job is more difficult because of ppl who use the dumps.
How, well they get their certs in 2-3 weeks, once employed---cant do their job for shiet. And we all end up paying for their [beep]up.
Here check this out
Obviously there are other sources..but I aint got time for that--u can find more to satisfy ur self!!!
And you willl know who the losser is, once U get a real job.
[QUOTE]Original post by (mitchflorida)
UP YOURS [QUOTE]
Bro, Congrats on yiour hard earned cert. NOw frame it, and tell every one what 3 weeks can earn U.
I have been using this forum for over a year now... and you are the first person who actually said "UP YOURS" to another member--dont you think it's a bit awkward, We are all IT personal.
Cuttin the chase .. please keep you nice comments with in a boundry.
Man.. what the %^$& is wrong with this CCNA forum. There is all the junk commin in??????
If any of uuss recently got a cert, congrats. Dont wanna know how U got it, keep it to your self.
If you are having a problem with materials related to CCNA content, then share it, We will be more than happy to help out.
But PLEASE none of this bullsheit on CCNA forum now.. aiight.
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| Great job on passing. Please do not offer to exchange/trade copyrighted material on this site. thanks. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-01-10, 4:22 pm |
| Very good point Lexy.
There are Cert Hunters and there are IT Professionals.
It took me well over a year to get my CCNA, As the goal was how to apply this stuff to my Job. Some times I would spend a lot of time with CCNP stuff that was more relevant to my company. Other times I dealt with stuff that Cisco developed solely for us.
What was the point of rushing? None at all.
Cert Hunters (cheaters) just dont get it.
Well done Benfd anouther notch on your belt, as the freak says, please dont trade here. | |
| babu75 2003-01-10, 6:48 pm |
| did you say 3weeks? well considering the content of ccna and CLI to be specific, i just don't understand how you can do it.
may be with some router experience, but even then, some of us are more interested with the knowledge(retention) than how long it didn't take you for that matter.
the certs will come and like HOOLIGAN said why rush? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-01-10, 8:54 pm |
| to do it in three weeks would envolve having a list of actual exam questions memorised. There is no way someone could learn every concept in that space of time. | |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
to do it in three weeks would envolve having a list of actual exam questions memorised. There is no way someone could learn every concept in that space of time.
totally possible.
if you have free time, 3 weeks is 21 days, 10 hours study per day (can be lots more if needed, but this is pretty conservative), that's 210 hours per day.
take in average working stiff can perhaps set aside 3 hours/day 5 on weekend, that's just 25 hours of study per week, so that 3 week equates to 2 months of study. perfectly on target with most time estimation. | |
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Originally posted by mikop
totally possible.
if you have free time, 3 weeks is 21 days, 10 hours study per day (can be lots more if needed, but this is pretty conservative), that's 210 hours per day.
take in average working stiff can perhaps set aside 3 hours/day 5 on weekend, that's just 25 hours of study per week, so that 3 week equates to 2 months of study. perfectly on target with most time estimation.
agreed... | |
| luisjo 2003-01-10, 9:38 pm |
| guys what happend since when a day has 210 hours, last time i check it only had 24 hours, i wish it had more but nope.
Use your calc. please. | |
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| i am impressed in your ability to catch that and make it an issue. | |
| luisjo 2003-01-10, 9:47 pm |
| I dindt mean to offend any one but why in the hell you dont use a damm calc to get the info right.
just kidding guys. mikop dont take it to hard, i was just making fun of the little mistake. | |
| freak 2003-01-10, 10:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by mikop
i am impressed in your ability to catch that and make it an issue.
LOL | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-01-11, 3:24 am |
| ...Depending on how much knowledge you had to start with.
Maybe you could. Though doesnt sound like fun. | |
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| it is really not hard.
it is about discipline, being smart with your time, manage it, make best use of it and focus.
ppl can read a book 10 times and take nothing from it because they are just reading words after words after words.
ppl can also read a book 1-2 times, apply it, understand it.
the point is... time spent is far from an accurate accessment of whether one is possibly *legit* in term of their study material or motivation.
as I previously stated, there is no right or wrong way, it is how you approach it. Test is a test... that's all it is. you can take the quick and painful way and just get it over with, so you can focus on learning... and not on passing... or you can take your time and prep, reprep, and again till you can get the highest score... or when you are 100 percent ready...
fact is, most ppl... professionals who wants to learn this stuff, realize, especially after couple tests, that they are insufficient in the subject they really want to know... while certain topics are covered and prep and a waste of tiem.
how many of us really care about appletalk, netware beyond knowing... I work in a tcp/ip world, I care about it... I don't care about AT and that's a waste of time for me... do I study till I know AT as much as I know TCP/IP or even Netbeui? no... I read it once, understand the depth of coverage, apply what I already know of it and then I said to myself... I will take my chances of getting 3 AT question, make 1 decent intelligent guess and miss 2. I will concentrate my energy on TCP/IP... However, if the environment I work at has AT and netware, you think those material adequately cover enough theories and implementation? no...
so again, test is just a test. I pass no judgement on the length one takes and that's the problem I have with some of the post, where everything is based on just that one criteria, time spent... As noted by my earlier post regarding mitchflorida (i think), it is about the approach one has about learning, not the time used to prep for a test. Learning knows no bound. test taking is one gimpy test while all you need is like what? 70 percent right to pass...
very important note: all this is not justification to use "questionable" materials etc... it is simply about understand the amount of efforts needed to pass a test vs knowing the amount of efforts to know the tools of your trade. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-01-11, 4:53 am |
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Learning knows no bound. test taking is one gimpy test while all you need is like what? 70 percent right to pass...
As we both know, CCNA is 85% so its a little trickier, Im sure it is easier for some to study then others. In my case, my first responsibility was to the Kids and missus. So a lot of time I was reading 'Bob the builder' more often then ICND stuff.
So studying for me anyway was erratic.
Hey if you can pass a ton( ligitimatly anyway ) more power to you.
Now perhaps if there was A
'CCNA Freaks guide' when I was studying... | |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Now perhaps if there was A
'CCNA Freaks guide' when I was studying...
sorry it didn't get there in time for you to use But there is one for XP, which your profile says you are studying for
My regards to Bob, the kids and the missus@ | |
| mitchflorida 2003-01-11, 10:05 am |
| I find it amazing how things get misunderstood on this forum. First of all, I took four weeks to pass this test, not three. Why are people changing the facts.
Second, I was studying it after having gotten my MCSE, so the material was fresh from that studying.
Third, I used the Test King for review. .along with a lot of other materials, including CCNA 2.0 by Larson, the Lammle book, Transcender and RouterSim.
Fourth, the Test King has about 400 sample questions, so it would be impossible to memorize it for the 50 or so questions on the test. Almost all of the questions on the actual test were worded slightly different and in different order. If you can memorize 400 questions like that and not understand the underlying material . .I would say it is impossible. .
Just trying to set the record straight . . | |
| ChrisDfer 2003-01-11, 11:15 am |
| Have you ever touched a real router? | |
| mitchflorida 2003-01-11, 11:17 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChrisDfer
Have you ever touched a real router?
What is a router? | |
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| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-11, 12:04 pm |
| The sad thing about mitchflorida's comment is that he wasn't joking
Sensational link there ChrisDfer! Mitch should have his WAN up and running in no time with a couple of those
"The ultimate in router performance" | |
| mitchflorida 2003-01-11, 1:27 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChrisDfer
Think its somthing you cut wood with. I got this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=2086007571 I'm still trying to figure out how to integrate into my network.
Thanks for the picture, I believe that is called a token ring router . .. ? | |
| Sexy Lexy 2003-01-11, 1:34 pm |
| You'd believe it was called an elephant if test king told you so.
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| Imran4sin 2003-01-11, 5:48 pm |
| Thats's a powerfull router too...
23,000 RPM thats some thing,very nice performance wise. | |
| MaulerJ 2003-01-11, 10:55 pm |
| NO shiza, no wonder I failed the test, I was studying my books, when I should have gone to home depot, or Lowes | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-01-12, 4:39 am |
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sorry it didn't get there in time for you to use But there is one for XP, which your profile says you are studying for My
regards to Bob, the kids and the missus@
Odd things are happening at work, I could end up doing more Admin stuff or Router stuff, not sure which way things are going right now. Im off to cross over to the dark side to see what you have .
Regards to the little freaks and the missus, im sure you will be getting well aquanted with Bob yourself very soon ( and Barney and Elmo and Thomas etc etc etc ). | |
| freak 2003-01-12, 10:34 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Odd things are happening at work, I could end up doing more Admin stuff or Router stuff, not sure which way things are going right now. Im off to cross over to the dark side to see what you have .
Regards to the little freaks and the missus, im sure you will be getting well aquanted with Bob yourself very soon ( and Barney and Elmo and Thomas etc etc etc ).
Oh yeah, I read those books all the time. DOn't forget McDuff and Pooh | |
| ChrisDfer 2003-01-12, 11:12 am |
| Here is somthing to read to your kids.
If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report!
If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
And the double-clicking icons put your window in the trash,
And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
Then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash!
If the label on your cable on the gable at your house,
Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
But your packets want to tunnel to another protocol,
That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall.
And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss,
So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse,
Then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
"Cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!
When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary RISC,
Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM,
Quickly turn off your computer and be sure to tell your mom! | |
| freak 2003-01-12, 11:20 am |
| very nice! | |
| Imran4sin 2003-01-13, 2:23 am |
| good stuff dude...
how the heck did ya come up with it.. Nic3. |
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