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Taking 607 soon / does Cisco smoke crack?
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| Billabong 2002-05-08, 4:05 pm |
| Hello all!
First time test taker, long time Cisco user.  Glad I found this site!
Almost done with semester 4 of the Cisco Acadamy. Actually, next week is the final/hands-on. Doing very well in the class (no tests under 90, even finals (not bragging, just letting you know where I'm coming from..))
I started going through the Cisco Press 'Flash Cards' and the practice exams, and I realized that the classes have only prepared me about 55 - 65% for the CCNA. Some subjects we never really went itno (like the 1900 switch) I'm dealing with that, though.
CLI commands, ok. Cable pinouts, ok. OSI model, in my sleep. And, I actually like the simulations they added.
But, having to know rfc number's? Am I out of line by saying "Get bent"?
Has anyone seen rfc questions on the actual exam? I've been getting them on the practice ones so I'm a little nervous.
Thanks,
Bill | |
| jombeewoof 2002-05-08, 4:09 pm |
| I haven't take the 607 yet (slacking big time) but my study buddy did and he said you gotta know all that crap
also when you take the test (i have some priveleged info as I work in a testing center) some of the sim questions aren't so clear on what your supposed to do/click on to activate, stuff like that. so you gotta watch out for that too
all in all yes cicso does smoke crack | |
| CoffeeFreak 2002-05-08, 5:04 pm |
| I agree with this,,, crack baby,,,
semester 1 and 2 don't have anything doing with a switch,,, it's all routers and such,, we used switch's alot but never connected to the console if you know what i mean,,,
i have heard that these academy's are great for handson but for actual Exam content you better know yo shit, no just what's covered in the classes... | |
| Billabong 2002-05-09, 2:15 pm |
| OK, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't just me.
I'm just freaking out, I think. I start going over my notes and cards and I start thinking "Holy crap, there are so many things they could ask you! They can't ask you _this_ could they? Do I really have to know the binary language of moisture vaporators?"
Although, I just took my CCNA pre-test 1 (the 'voucher' test) and got a 91 on it, but I don't think that it really means anything...
Will keep you updated, though.
Thanks for the support,
Bill | |
| wirechild 2002-05-09, 10:53 pm |
| I gotta say I am with cisco on this one. RFC's are about as close to real standards as they come and without them, well who knows. BUT to not know the basic RFC's and consider yourself an engineer is crazy.
The most important reason for knowing some of the basic RFC's is mostly to familiarize yourself with what they are, how they are written and so in the future as you come across new protocols and such you will turn to the RFC's first to learn it. | |
| Billabong 2002-05-13, 10:57 am |
| Wirechild:
After reading your post, I went and looked up RFC's and what they are (since they were never really explained in the class). I happened to lookup the one I got wrong in particular, PPP Authentication. I started reading it, and noticed that it sounded alot like the Cisco Press book for the CNAP 2nd-Year Guide!
Again, I have no certifications yet. This is my first. It just seems like they are packing alot into this one test. Maybe I should have started with something easier...like Particle Physics.
I'm just having pre-test jitters is all.
Later,
Bill | |
| marathoner 2002-05-13, 10:23 pm |
| OK I have read my share of RFC's and I agree that they are the closest thing to standards and they are very important blah blah blah. However, RFC's are indexed by sequence numbers. The numbers themselves are meaningless. If I need a particular RFC, either it is already referenced by number in some reading material or I look in a rfc archive and search by keyword. Why should I clutter my already fragmented brain with a bunch of meaningless numbers? Augh....
Having said that.... Who has a list of the 10? 20? most critical rfc numbers that all us trained-monkey CCNA's must memorize? Who has ever got a test question like: Which rfc first proposed the BGP protocol, a) 1773 b)1177 c) 711 d) 1371 e)none of these | |
| philetus 2002-05-14, 2:24 am |
| I also would appreciate a list of RFC`s I should memorize.
Thanks
Tom | |
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| Captain_Miller 2002-05-14, 7:03 am |
| Another topic you must really know are the flight velocities of all the varieties of swallows and the differences depending on geography. Remember also that the equation for calculating the difference when laden with coconuts changes when you cross the equater. Instead of sqaring the mass of the coconut, multiplying that by the mass of the swallow and then dividing the product by the 1/10th the average velocity of the swallow times it's age, you must triple the mass of the cocunuts and then multiply that by the temperature variance from 112 degrees kelben before multiplying that by the mass of the swallow and then dividing the product by the 1/10th the average velocity of the swallow. Pretty easy stuff, but there is a lot to know. | |
| Lilywhites 2002-05-14, 9:22 am |
| Are you suggesting coconuts migrate??? | |
| Billabong 2002-05-14, 10:58 am |
| Not at all, they are carried!
You forgot to take into account the tensile strength of the string they would use to fashion a sling. Since EVERYONE knows that one swallow could not carry a coconut by itself.
However, if a 2503 router weighs as much as a duck, then it must be able to float. And since wood floats AND burns, your router is a witch!!!
Later,
Bill | |
| Lilywhites 2002-05-14, 3:38 pm |
| But surely a African swallow could carry a 2503 router by tucking it under it's dorsal guiding feathers!
I blow my nose at you!
Ni! | |
| HOOLIGAN 2002-05-14, 6:09 pm |
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Another topic you must really know are the flight velocities of all the varieties of swallows
African swallows or european swallows?
john
your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries | |
| Billabong 2002-05-15, 8:47 am |
| It's not a question of guiding dorsal feathers, it's about air-speed velocity.
A six-ounce bird couldn't possibly carry an eight pound router by itself. Unless the route the swallow was taking had a metric less than 19.
Now, if it was in an autonomous migratory system, it would be governed by either RIP or IGRP. There really wouldn't be a prefered route, since once a month all of the routers meet to elect a spokes-router for the group. However, their decision can be overturned by a 2/3 majority vote. Or, in the case of a tie, the default route is consulted for travels to unknown destinations. But, if the default route is unavailable, the whole thing gets discarded anyway.
**what were we talking about again?**
Bill | |
| Lilywhites 2002-05-15, 2:20 pm |
| Billabong and Hooligan....
you are both silly persons!
Ni! | |
| Billabong 2002-05-15, 2:27 pm |
| Thank you, Lilywhites!
I just wish the CCNA really had questions on Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Or at least TRON...heheh
Later,
Bill "no more talk of swallows" abong | |
| x46andtoolx 2002-05-15, 4:47 pm |
| Well billabong, im in you same situation.
Just finished Cisco 4. Go no less than a 95 on the finals, generally got 80s and above on all the tests. Now that they started this new 607, i'm shitting my pants every time i thinkabout it.
That CCNA test was bull shit. My instructor was like if your CCNA's this easy then you should stop and thank your god.
I'm really thinking of not taking this test. I'm only in high school and not sure if im gonna be a network administrator. I got my Net+ earlier this year. I most likely will still try and take it though. Theres always a chaance | |
| HOOLIGAN 2002-05-15, 5:23 pm |
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i'm shitting my pants every time i thinkabout it.
Relax dude, its just an exam. So what if you fail, you can take it again the next day.
John
Oh and Bring me a ......Shrubbery!!!!! | |
| Billabong 2002-05-15, 8:21 pm |
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Originally posted by x46andtoolx
Well billabong, im in you same situation.
Just finished Cisco 4. Go no less than a 95 on the finals, generally got 80s and above on all the tests. Now that they started this new 607, i'm shitting my pants every time i thinkabout it.
That CCNA test was bull shit. My instructor was like if your CCNA's this easy then you should stop and thank your god.
I'm really thinking of not taking this test. I'm only in high school and not sure if im gonna be a network administrator. I got my Net+ earlier this year. I most likely will still try and take it though. Theres always a chaance
If you mean the "Chapter 9" tests, yes, they were quite easy. Probably nothing like the real CCNA. If it is though, man, I will start worshipping something!
For review, I like the Cisco Flash Kit. It's like $35, comes with a CD-ROM with a test engine with router-sim questions. Some of the questions are buggy, but overall, it's not bad.
Like Hooligan, the scimitar-wielding watery-tart said, just be cool, it's only an exam.
I think the best advice I've heard so far is to 'brain dump' before you even start the test. Write down everything you can think of: commands, subnets, diagrams, etc. before you even start the test. I did this on my Semester 4 final, and it helped alot (100%).
And look on the bright side: Being in High School, at least you didn't have to pay for the Cisco classes! (unless your school is really cheesey).
Good luck,
Bill
BTW, where in NY 46andtool? | |
| x46andtoolx 2002-05-15, 9:02 pm |
| Didnt have to pay a cent for the class (except if you want to take the actuall test, then you have to pay for it) WE just got a brand new dell lab w/ p4 gig+ and shit. Getting a new dell server. Got the routers and switches 2 years ago. Also have a course advanced networking (im taking it) where it gets you ready for the Net+ (i got) and for the MCP. Next year there gonna have advanced web hosting where they work with a bunch of new programs updating the school websight.
I have been using the flash card companion in school, and yeah theres plent o' bugs.
I just got from my teacher the vlabs for semester 2-4 and the elab router sim. | |
| Billabong 2002-05-16, 8:57 am |
| Hey 46andtool, what school are you at in NY? It sounds almost the same as mine! lol
Later,
Billabong | |
| x46andtoolx 2002-05-16, 12:09 pm |
| Shit, thought i mentionedit already. East Islip High School on Long Island | |
| Billabong 2002-05-17, 2:01 pm |
| That McQ guy is a pretty good teacher.
But your machines are only P3's, not P4's. They don't make a 1Ghz P4 desktop.
Later,
Billabong | |
| x46andtoolx 2002-05-17, 2:27 pm |
| hah, you know bout mcQ...hes mad dope. hes an awesome teacher |
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