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| granxd 2002-10-20, 6:55 am |
| I am a CCNA, MCP(on XP professional), Network+ and A+, but I can't seem to get no IT jobs. My current job just hired someone with just A+ and Network+ over me. I have 2 years experience in this field. I also do alot of programming from C/C++ to PERL and even assembly language. I dont like to use the race card but do you think my race has anything to do with me not getting any IT jobs. I am an African American. | |
| mindmesh 2002-10-20, 8:55 am |
| Honestly, I think your race should be working for you. Not to play on race but a lot of companies get tax breaks and other benefits because of affirmitave action laws..
My personal opinion is that you are way over qualified for the position you applied for. If they took an A+ and Net+ over what you had to offer then they figured once the market got better you were gone and then they'd be at square one again. I lucked into my current job at an up and coming CLEC/ISP. I interviewed 4 months before I got hired. Times are tough, but that only builds Character. Good luck to you and don't read too much into things, it can make things seem worse then they are. | |
| granxd 2002-10-20, 9:04 am |
| quote: Originally posted by mindmesh
Honestly, I think your race should be working for you. Not to play on race but a lot of companies get tax breaks and other benefits because of affirmitave action laws..
My personal opinion is that you are way over qualified for the position you applied for. If they took an A+ and Net+ over what you had to offer then they figured once the market got better you were gone and then they'd be at square one again. I lucked into my current job at an up and coming CLEC/ISP. I interviewed 4 months before I got hired. Times are tough, but that only builds Character. Good luck to you and don't read too much into things, it can make things seem worse then they are.
You really made alot of sense. I totally agree with you. But do you think when I apply for a job, I should not list all my certifications, that way they wont think I am over qualified? | |
| mindmesh 2002-10-20, 9:18 am |
| It depends on the Job. You should taylor you resume to the specs. of the job your applying. I mean if they want an entry level employee then I'd say put A+ and Net+. If they state no entry level then list what you have.. Also, I've noticed a lot of jobs for people with programming experience in my area. Your not too far from me, I'm outside Philly. Another thing that you can try is cold calling employers. I could never do it, I always felt funny, but I know some people that landed so really good jobs doing it. Another thing you can consider is consulting, for yourself. With that skill set you can probably turn up a pretty penny for your time.. And remember I get 10% for intellectual rights  | |
| granxd 2002-10-20, 9:24 am |
| quote: Originally posted by mindmesh
It depends on the Job. You should taylor you resume to the specs. of the job your applying. I mean if they want an entry level employee then I'd say put A+ and Net+. If they state no entry level then list what you have.. Also, I've noticed a lot of jobs for people with programming experience in my area. Your not too far from me, I'm outside Philly. Another thing that you can try is cold calling employers. I could never do it, I always felt funny, but I know some people that landed so really good jobs doing it. Another thing you can consider is consulting, for yourself. With that skill set you can probably turn up a pretty penny for your time.. And remember I get 10% for intellectual rights
LOL, thx. I live by the PA borderline in Delaware, claymont to be specific. What do you mean by cold calling? You just call an employer even if they have an opening or not? Thanks for your advice, I sure could use it. If your company ever needs someone, please give me a try.Once again thanks for your advice. | |
| mindmesh 2002-10-20, 9:40 am |
| Cold calling means just call up and try and get thru to the IT manager. Once you get thru to him you try and sell yourself. Stay away from HR at all costs. From my understanding most companies hire from internal sources, meaning that if you know someone you are more likely to get the job. They usually only post adds if they are having an hard time finding someone to fill a postition or need to fill a quota.
I go around and hand out resumes in local corprate centers and even industrial parks. Landed me this job... I must have been a bad person in a past life. 
As for a job here we just laid off 28% of the company. But if they start hiring again, I'll post it in here. Give everyone a chance at it. On a sad note.. We just hired some temps and one of them has a bachelors in Electrical engineering and almost has an MBA.. Making $11/hr answering phones. | |
| granxd 2002-10-20, 9:57 am |
| quote: Originally posted by mindmesh
Cold calling means just call up and try and get thru to the IT manager. Once you get thru to him you try and sell yourself. Stay away from HR at all costs. From my understanding most companies hire from internal sources, meaning that if you know someone you are more likely to get the job. They usually only post adds if they are having an hard time finding someone to fill a postition or need to fill a quota.
I go around and hand out resumes in local corprate centers and even industrial parks. Landed me this job... I must have been a bad person in a past life. 
As for a job here we just laid off 28% of the company. But if they start hiring again, I'll post it in here. Give everyone a chance at it. On a sad note.. We just hired some temps and one of them has a bachelors in Electrical engineering and almost has an MBA.. Making $11/hr answering phones.
Thanks for your advice. I sure will use it. | |
| freddiebeach 2002-10-20, 4:16 pm |
| It can be a real challenge to break into the market. It took me a long time to land my first job but since then I've stayed in the industry. I've change jobs a few times since then but they have always been for a step forward. As speaking as someone that is involved in the hiring process I think honestly is the best policy when it comes to resumes. I have shuffled the order of things within my resumes for employers and always write a cover letter specifc to the position that I am applying for.
You know the way I look at it is that interviewing is like any other skill you need to practice. Your resume will hopefully get you an interiew and this is when the real work begins. My advice if you don't like interviewing take a few for positions you don't want. This way you can practice when there is less on the line. Above all be honest and be yourself. In my books these are both very important.
Good luck with your job hunt! | |
| thecomeons 2002-10-21, 7:09 am |
| what kind of job are you looking for? maybe 210 would be more marketable for you than 270. do you know databases? i think intranet and internet databases is another rising career. |
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