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Guess What U all guys are too older too doo CCNA
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| I did my CCNA in the age of 14 Plus I did My A+,N+,MCSE,CCNA these all certificates i did it in the age of 14 and if u dont belive see the article i mean the file which is Attached with it | |
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| Wow, I'll sleep much better knowing that bit of information.  | |
| HOOLIGAN 2001-12-07, 5:37 am |
| Way to go, congratulations,
whats your next cert? spellcheck+ or modesty+ ? | |
| dmaftei 2001-12-07, 8:12 am |
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Originally posted by usman
I did my CCNA in the age of 14 Plus I did My A+,N+,MCSE,CCNA these all certificates i did it in the age of 14 and if u dont belive see the article i mean the file which is Attached with it
Good for you! Now it's time to do the growing up... | |
| strikeattack 2001-12-07, 8:47 am |
| USMAN,
Out of curiosity, are you working in I/S? | |
| PhaShow 2001-12-07, 10:50 am |
| Hey that is so great you got all of these certifications!!! How does it feel to be making at least $100 an hour??!! Bet the wife and kids are really greatful!! What are you again, 14? You are the greatest!!! | |
| PotatoHead 2001-12-07, 1:27 pm |
| Who cares? | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-07, 1:54 pm |
| he is in pakistan not in usa :P | |
| sibley 2001-12-07, 2:04 pm |
| Oh, yeah??? Well, by the age of 6 I had my RHCE!!!! And my CCIE I got at only 8!!!! WOW, AIN'T I GREAT???? | |
| pcwizzard 2001-12-07, 3:04 pm |
| I thought you had to be a certain age. My last exam was the CCDA exam and at the end of the test there was a page where it asked if I was atleast 18 years old. Dont you have to be atleast 18 years old? I may be wrong, but still I dont know anyone that would hire someone so young even though they had those certs. At that age I would say it was just a waste of money, and by the time he is ready to work those certs will be outdated and useless anyway. | |
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| It's easy to do those things when you have no life or friends. Have fun hanging out with your pieces of paper. You're gonna have a lonely and miserable life. | |
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| yeah this is true i have no friend i spend all my 3 4 year doing that | |
| strikeattack 2001-12-07, 3:33 pm |
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Have fun hanging out with your pieces of paper. You're gonna have a lonely and miserable life.
Geeze. Why such hostile words? Even if someone comes across as a little "eccentric", such wording certainly does not contribute positively to the thread. | |
| pcwizzard 2001-12-07, 5:34 pm |
| I think the wording the young man used is what set everyone off. He started the post off by stating that everyone was to 'OLD' to be doing their CCNA or MCSE. I say your never too old to learn new things and besides, age is nothing but a number!! | |
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| Exactly, Pcwizard I don't respond to kindly to blatant arrogance. If that's the way he wants to act that's fine, but don't expect me to say "Hey that's great, way to go." | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-08, 2:42 pm |
| Good luck for your future usman  | |
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| thnks Haseeb Bhai so hasseb bhai did u download the file any way guys keep on replying | |
| moodymaniac 2001-12-09, 1:27 am |
| Oh God Oh my Gawd! forgive me. I'm too young to Die (with Astound Mania)
quote:
Fact is a harsh ruthless Killer! ias its botter and deadlier then fiction ;-)
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| haseeb_eng 2001-12-09, 6:10 am |
| usman i will suggest you to do some unix/linux stuff also Yup i download it . | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-09, 6:33 am |
| um ok, that is great but I wouldn't brag though.
I did all that crap u did and more when I was 15 (that's when I knew about certs), and will wind up ccnp before spring next year. And then concentrate on my sophomore-senior high school year...
it's cool you are into all that like that though but I'd be god damned if you cheated... not that i am saying u did... but anyway, good job I guess... | |
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| U r Right but actually u know i dont have time now bcz of my studies as well as i have to now explore my self i have to get expirenced in it wht do u think of accelerated exam is it easy or wht guys plzz keep on repling and ghost if u dont belive why dont u test me n have believe tht i didnt any way bye guys see u later
bye | |
| gaofei998 2001-12-10, 3:15 am |
| i'am a chinese man
and i have some bibles and insure you will
pass it ,if someone want it ,can email me | |
| neuralfx 2001-12-10, 3:59 am |
| the post of above this made no sense, but anyway, thats cool and all that usman .. but dont be so cocky about it, to be real honest about it, its not that hard, its not like you've found a new theorem, or wrote a kernel .. or anything extraordinary ..much of it, isnt really as tough as what you would find in highschool courses in other areas,.. well nowhere near it, its cool, and being young i could see being cockey and think its cool and all that, but dont be presumptious, you may get a false sense of placement .. just my thoughts .. ..
-neural | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-10, 4:55 am |
| gaofei, thank you for cheating and encouraging other to do so.. oh how can the industry ever thank you... all praise gaofei.
This is exactly the kind of things which ticks me off, you cannot imagine how easy it is for people in the 3rd world countries to pass these exams. People who can't even understand proper english be scoring 90's and shit. It pisses me off cuz I know how hard these exams are but then I see some kid bragging about how easy he found the exams while he can't even structure his phrases right.
XXXX that I wouldn't be surprised if I see a munk from india scoring 1000 on his ccna "budda budda...". | |
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| I think education is about "Total Learning" (social and individual growth...I mean). Not just about Certs and Degrees!! One has to learn manners and how to talk to people. Usman, still has a lot to learn about life itself, that's why I would personally think finishing school should be important to him!
Great Job though ,you must be a talanted person to have done this at such young age, though so many other people I think have archieved greater things than CCNA and at even lesser ages!
My advice : Let other people judge you!!, though a little bragging could be good for your career, I mean it could imply confidence in a way!!
But What is not good is demeaning others in the process!
Good luck in your growing up, young man!! | |
| strikeattack 2001-12-10, 9:25 am |
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Exactly, Pcwizard I don't respond to kindly to blatant arrogance. If that's the way he wants to act that's fine, but don't expect me to say "Hey that's great, way to go."
That's fine, and I would understand if his "blatant arrogance" was directed towards you and was intended as a personal attack, but it was not. I would have thought that a more appropriate response would have been none at all, rather that starting a flaming thread. This post is simply the opinion of a 14-year adolescent, and I'm surprised that he is able to provoke everyone in here so easily.
Skipster, please kill this thread as it is obviously no longer serving any useful academic purpose. | |
| mikeghet 2001-12-10, 1:03 pm |
| I think everyone should calm down and not get so rattled, even if he is coming of cocky. If he really completed these certs that is great. He just needs to get a high school cert (diploma) and college degree. I do not believe that newspaper or whatever it is but if he did it for real that is great. I do not understand how someone of his age could complete this unless he only used things like transcender cheat sheet stuff. It hard to believe he reaaad the actual books ccna icnd, and ms microsft official curriclum. Oh yeaf excuse my spelling I am at work and am pressed for time. | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-10, 1:28 pm |
| We should have an aknowledgments forum where we can all express our skills and achievements without troublin any1...
what do ya think? | |
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| We could call it the bragging forum, or the I'm better than you forum. Either way, I don't think people would go there to read about other people. They would probably just go there, post what they did, and walk away. | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-10, 2:34 pm |
| this is just the matter of interest. | |
| OmnipotentOne 2001-12-10, 2:51 pm |
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Originally posted by pcwizzard
I think the wording the young man used is what set everyone off. He started the post off by stating that everyone was to 'OLD' to be doing their CCNA or MCSE. I say your never too old to learn new things and besides, age is nothing but a number!!
I have to agree with you on half of that, I think the older people have the advantage though, no matter how many certifications you have no one takes you seriously if your underage, unless of course your on the internet, when you can write obscure letters to people as if your a 45 year old business major who has a beef with something... not saying that outright, but just implying it through wording. | |
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| u r right this all the matter of interest i know how i bought the computer how i started learning bcz these thing a person only feels when he starts rite from the begin. and these things in my way only the people from india n pakistan can feel not guys like u any way i dont wanna fight belive or not ok your wish but ppl here r satisfied here from bcz i have shown some work here | |
| mikeghet 2001-12-10, 2:56 pm |
| One thing that just occured to me is that you really can't use the cert untill your 18. | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-13, 12:13 pm |
| well i did not mean to say that usman . mikeghet can u gimme the link from where u read this article ? | |
| limsam 2001-12-14, 3:28 am |
| I was in my mom's tummy when I finished my CCIE. | |
| labelladonna 2001-12-14, 4:30 am |
| USMAN:
It's cool to get all these at 14; but it might be even cooler to get it at 50. I'll go for that next year, when I turn into 50's. Why not now? I'm busy with some exam's. I'm but 2 more to MCSBA and 3 more to MCSE. By the way I've got my A+ at 48, i-net+ at 49. I also got a diploma on Internet Publishing in a local university this winter and will have another diploma on Internet system administration completed next summer. I don't see age can stop me enjoy learning, and partying, and watching cartoons... | |
| CiberHawk 2001-12-14, 5:13 am |
| Guess what I had my first beer when I was only 2 ! Whooo
Interesting Article - Do you know that I got all my Certs by self study and setting up my own network system! Oooh well a 2 month Parot - help you every step of the way course would of made my life so much easier but I had to do it all myself (its not the age that counts - you are at 14 just as capable as you are at fl*p*n 60, its the way you do it Usman - and the way you do it by running to training centres every time is not much to blow your horn about)
I notice Usman is doing a class now in web design - sure as hell needs another "show me how to master" course I guess judging from his current web page - I would think that for such a Whizz kid as yourself that you would manage something a bit more complex than your current web page ( for those curious its at : www.fayzan.rafiq.moten.8k.com)
So Mr. Usman why dont you do the Exam games - or did you forget everything by now they crammed into your head at the training centre just to see you pass the exam ;-)
Age means nothing in this game - its real world experience and capabilties that do.
Hey tell you what why dont you do the RHCE next - but this time no class no boot-camp no brain-dumps, just you a book and your own system (one month only! and then the exams) come and tell us then how great you are OK
At least you got Idiot+ with 100% hey ;-} | |
| Jbrick 2001-12-14, 5:31 am |
| You may be a techno GEEK at the age of 14 but you still cant spell. What kind of english is : Guess what U all guys are too older too doo CCNA???????
U might be able to do the Math and the science but U sure as hell can't do the English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| bbbaldie 2001-12-14, 6:17 am |
| I've always said that there are two classes of people in the world, those who remember JFK's assasination, and "young punks."
But seriously folks, it's great to see a fellow boomer doing the cram and test thing. I just got my CCNA last week (I was four when we lost JFK).
Ain't it cool to have the tech field, where there's a place for "geezers" like me and 18 year-olds to work together? Course, I'll never prefer Weezer over Springsteen . . . | |
| jwalters 2001-12-14, 6:35 am |
| You've got a...thin...candy shell. Yeah, I never learned how to wread or rite but I can wride a bik! I doo got all my sertifications wen I was only 8. I started with Citrix and skipped my A+ and got Cobol Sertified. You can read the article about me in the Natnl. Enquirer 8/15/97. Right under the alien baby story. I was the alien baby too. I was really the subject of a Propaganda war that was trying to prove who had younger and smarter nerd types during the cold war between Zimbabwe and Mongolia. I still don't know how my achievememnts effected either country.
Next week yune in to hear about my Metaphysical Transportation Thesis.
Peace oooooout!!! | |
| powerm 2001-12-14, 7:34 am |
| Congratulations Usman!
These are indeed excellent skills, but where are you going to use them?
I would think that you would have devoted more time to your english, as I expect you will be expecting to work for a global organisation.
Good luck for the future, but remember, you're only young once. Live life whilst you're young enough to enjoy it.
The words: Jack, Dull and Boy come to mind. | |
| Detour 2001-12-14, 7:57 am |
| What you fail to realize, Usman, is when a lot of us were younger there weren't all these certifications to achieve. 10 years ago i can only think of the CNE, and the original CCIE. And 14 year olds absolutely didn't have the access to training like they do now(I'd never heard of either certification then). In 1987, at the age of 11, I was programming assembly on the commodore 64. That was about the extent of what a kid could do then(with the exception of mucking around on unsecured unix boxes over a modem, which umm i didn't do of course Also, I understand that a lot of the training courses are just braindumps with a teacher. So while it's nice that you are young, learn at least some respect. Some of us have been doing this a lot longer than you, regardless of how old we got a cert at. Oh and try the CCNP without a training course, study the tests on your own(no not the braindumps,actual books). You'll learn a lot more that way trust me. | |
| bfattima 2001-12-14, 8:06 am |
| In pakistan and got all the certificate haaaaaaaaaaa don't believe that. | |
| mamont 2001-12-14, 8:36 am |
| Another one of those paper mcse/ccna's they come in by the dozen, and fly out just the same: 12-15 seconds on the jobs is the average last time | |
| JosephCJ57 2001-12-14, 9:08 am |
| When you get your Oracle, Linux and CCIE certs, then let us know! | |
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| He's only 14 years old and look at the storm he's caused!! 40 odd posts and over 1000 reads, well done!! | |
| pikejl 2001-12-14, 9:17 am |
| You have done well grasshopper. Enjoy your youth while you can. I'd like to point out that some of us aren't fortunate enough to be able to take crash courses to get these certs, like the article says you did. Some just buy books, and do purly self study. However I'm sure you studied too.
Also remember a couple of things. Everyone likes to think that they are smarter than the next guy. That's human nature. The only truly smart ones know this and use it.
Also know that those who speak do not know, and those who know do not speak.
Peace to you! | |
| mamont 2001-12-14, 10:32 am |
| pikejl, i could not have said it better myself. Being an admin, i have dealt too much with the "paper mcse's", who crash coursed the exams, but have no expirience in the actual system they claim they know. It is great that you passed all these exzams at such a young age, usman, but where and how will you apply it??? "Knowledge is power when applied, because without application it is useless. Why clutter the brain with material i don't need"- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, "SHerlock Holmes" | |
| vbrown 2001-12-14, 11:01 am |
| Ah, the impetuousness of youth...well done, you little scamp!!
Now, Usman, please show some respect for the rest of us who have 'matured' and may take a little more time to absorb this stuff!
Being proud of one's achievements is one thing, being an obnoxious little braggart is something else... | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-14, 11:09 am |
| Seems like young cats like myself are tagged with that "paperness or braindumps" crap. Everytime people see kids with certs they are ready to act up and start guessing and shit like oh he is only 15 and a ccna he must have used the dumps ah he dont know shit .. he is probably one of those incredible kids wannabe... we must keep in mind just cuz there are people like usman doesnt mean that all those young cats claiming their skills are fronting and just paper-certified...
mamont : I am preparing for ccnp on my own and i should let you know that it is hard as hell but i gotta cool 175 dollars lab deal with the local institute where i can do all my book labs exercise. | |
| jel968 2001-12-14, 11:31 am |
| Are you bragging about it, because it seems like it??? | |
| mamont 2001-12-14, 11:33 am |
| Ghost: the difference between you and Usman is that you are actually trying to apply your skills somewhere, and a lab is a great place to learn. The people I am referring to are those who keep passing one exam after another, without any real substance to it. I do applaud your efforts,and i do know how you feel. I was an admin with ccna at the age of 19, and i got a lot of grief about that because my "colleagues" were twice as old (about) | |
| cprice2k 2001-12-14, 12:46 pm |
| Certifications are great but without experience they're nothing but paper. | |
| mdtran 2001-12-14, 1:04 pm |
| You 're just all jealous with the young man.
Usman, It is awesome that you can do it especially English is not your first language.
Keep it up and try to get some experiences when you can. That's positive attitude! | |
| cprice2k 2001-12-14, 1:21 pm |
| Is it jealously or is it just stating the obvious? Without experience certifications are just high priced wallpaper. I interviewed for a networking position and the interviewer did not even know what a CCNA was, he was more interested in what was on my resume and what I had experience with. I am not knocking Usman, its great that he is able to accomplish what he has. I would also like to point out that there is more to networking than Cisco, I currently work on a mixed Cisco, 3Com, Intel, Extreme network. | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-14, 1:38 pm |
| You are pointing out that there is not only cisco in the networking field?
Yeh but only over 70 percent of todays low end internetwork devices are provided by cisco in the world. Not to mmention Cisco becoming an all out solution provider with its crazy product line from Access Servers to Redundunt data center products to their new frame-relay switches products...
Well if we were to be pointing out and stuff i can point out crap for days... one of them being networking itself is not the only "big" thing in the IT field though alot of people wish/act it was... anyway you are right though ... I actually kinda believe that some 3com switches are way better than certain cisco's judging on their requirement line...
Secondly,
mdtran : I don't think anyone here is getting jealous...
Third... one thing that keeps bothering me is how in the XXXX can you pass those exams if you cant even structure ur phrases right... i am dead serious, some questions (ms or cisco) are str8 up twisted english ... especially with cisco... and not to mention the novels-type ms questions where u have to scroll ur XXX off just to read the damn question.. an english teacher would have a ticking time reading and comprehending it.... ah anyway nevermind though.
Ah i am hungry... Some ice cream would do me goOOoood.......... | |
| genesys 2001-12-14, 1:47 pm |
| That is great. I didn't get my first computer till I was 33 years old!! I am now 43 years old (almost dead) I did manage to get my CNA4, CNA5, CNE5, MCSE (both NT4 & 2000 track) CCNA, A+ but this is meaningless when it comes to what I know.
The most important thing to learn and obtain in life is social & people skills. You will go further with these skills than certifications! Most certifications are becoming a bit of a joke unless you have some pratical experience and people skills! | |
| ASIFSHAFI 2001-12-14, 1:57 pm |
| You do not need to be older to remember the brain dumps. And it does not take much to fool a Pakistani newpaper editor. | |
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| Hey OSAMA YO MAMMA. THERE'S A TOMAHAWK COMMIN
YOUR WAY.
CCIE
CCNP
CCDA
CCNA
MCSE
CCIP
NET +
A+
RESPECT....... +
AND IM 30
SO F**K OFF | |
| mdtran 2001-12-14, 3:31 pm |
| m917:
Grow up man. By making fun of other people 's name, it only shows that you're nothing more than a low level racist.
Why can't you make fair and intelligent judgment? Are you riding high on your ego trip? | |
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| Everyone who read's my last post I am sorry for what I said, I just had to many friend's killed in NYC 9-11-2001 and that KID really ticked me off
once again Sorry.
m917 | |
| dagger 2001-12-14, 3:50 pm |
| You all would be kicking yourself
if that article ended up being fake....hehe
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| rrifen 2001-12-15, 12:14 am |
| Thats great, now all you have to do is convince an employer that you have the ability to transfer your knowledge to a user. Of course, you have tons of experience in dealing with irrate users/owners.
Its like the old saying having the cart before the hoarse, maybe you should work on your academic education.
With all of those certs, a person has to wonder how you really got them. Somehow, I imagine your testing was not very controled. | |
| mamont 2001-12-15, 12:42 am |
| Guys, i think we all as professionals agree that certifications are nothing without being backed up by expirience. What our junior friend forgets though, is that higher level certifications require expirience, like the new Win2k mcse track from microsoft and the CCNP-CCIE track. I have never heard that someone, who has not worked with the product on a daily basis, passed CCNP, the security, SQL 7, or IIS 5 exams for microsoft, much less a CCIE. The fact that there are only 4000 CCIEs in the world, and only 10000 MCSE 2000 compared to 500,000 MCSE NT4, which was a joke of an exam. I do not want to question the integrity of testing facilities in Pakistan, nor do I want to try and diminish Usmans achievement. Usman, I am not 30-40, I am 20. take some advice from one of your older peers, GET A LIFE. meet some girls, play some ball, enjoy it. | |
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| The skipper, I think this thread should be ended!
I believe Usman has understood the point. Lets not be so mean to the young man, it might not do him well in the long run. Some of us intended to advice him on how to behave, but personal attacks is not the way to go.
Thanks! | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-15, 2:22 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mamont
What our junior friend forgets though, is that higher level certifications require expirience, like the new Win2k mcse track from microsoft and the CCNP-CCIE track. I have never heard that someone, who has not worked with the product on a daily basis, passed CCNP, the security, SQL 7, or IIS 5 exams for microsoft, much less a CCIE. The fact that there are only 4000 CCIEs in the world, and only 10000 MCSE 2000 compared to 500,000 MCSE NT4, which was a joke of an exam.
Huh?
Were u born yesterday man?
You never met a paper ccnp?
Why do you think that china shit or other sites r so famous and successfull? Some peopel pass there ccnp in like 10 days without any preperation or anything (even ccie written),,, but just use dumps and cheap material...
abd mcse 2k? ha dont make me laff... I can say it fiercly that almost all of the people who do their mcse 2k use dumps...
4000 ccie's? 10 000 mcse 2k?
Wtf? where are you getting these figures from?
The number of ccie's are about to hit 8 thousand dude! | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-15, 3:37 am |
| Come on guys .. uve got to admire his efforts.
I might have done all that at such a young age but there were other things to take care off.
Im frekin 21, mostly devoted in getting my Double major degree in Computer Science and Information systems. I'm workin on the CCNA---have done semester1 and semester2 exams with average of 92%. Am workin on Network+ and A+.
But in the real world you need to have some experience..without it certificates dont mean nothin. Its frekin hard for me to get a job coz i aint got none.
But hey .Usman..is just 14.. so he has plenty of time a head of him. At time of my matriculation, i just wanted to get on top of the house and fly kites..lol.
So yea.. good stuff...keep it up..Usman and dont let any one put you down.
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Yo ppl.. i need to do my A+ and Network+ help/hints.. would be appriciated{which books to look at}--cheers.
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Usman..Eid mubarak.
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You never know what U can do unless you try. | |
| Warfare 2001-12-15, 4:33 am |
| This rather sounds like an ad or spam to me than a real poster who is 14 years old.
Did anybody check the file he attached? I wouldn't dare to download it and view it yet. | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-15, 5:13 am |
| Sup,
Yo Warfare.. I have..and its a valid file...
" Its an image file that proves his achievements... in a zip file"
so go a head and download it..you are a senior member.. man you should be able to tell the difference between a fake.
l8r,
_______________________
Imran4sin,
You never know what you can do unless you try | |
| Warfare 2001-12-15, 9:10 am |
| I've checked it. Impressive. Well it sounded too good to be true, but it is true. I'm too paranoid and I hate spams that always sound like "Ohh check this i am barely 18 and etc etc" They filled up my mailbox already.
Congrats young man. | |
| money$man 2001-12-15, 9:24 am |
| usman,
you reap what you sow.
you get out of life what you put into it.
you're 14 years old with all those certs. Wow thats great!
I'm going to pray for you and hope GOD will soften your heart, and that you will love and respect others. We use these forums to help each other and build upon our experiences. Even to relax and have fun, but one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch. Instead of bragging you should be sharing your knowledge to help others. You say you have no friends ? You could have alot of friends here. It's your choice.
money$man | |
| Drummer 2001-12-15, 9:41 am |
| Some of you take stuff way to seriously. Did you notice the winking smiley? I didn't take it as being arrogant so much as it was a 14 year old kid who was proud of himself. Sure he needs a little maturity but that will come in time. You guys are right that pieces of paper are no substitute for work experience, a team oriented attitude, and ability to interact with people well. I'm a recruiter and those are the things I look for. | |
| neuralfx 2001-12-15, 10:46 am |
| well thats nice, i think we have beaten this topic into the ground though ..
-neural | |
| chodan 2001-12-15, 2:25 pm |
| When I was fourteen there wasn`t a single computer in the entire town.
If you wanted acces to one you had to take a trip to the university a couple of hours away.
Now the fact that anyone has access to pretty much all the information there is, then passing a test at 14 is not as impressive as it once was "not that there were any IT certifications when I was 14".
Chodan | |
| mamont 2001-12-15, 2:27 pm |
| The figures i got were from the cisco and ms websites repectivly a couple of months ago. As for paper ccnp, no i have never heard of one/met one. It could be that there is little tolerance for that up here in Boston though. As for braindumps - they are awsome tools for exam prep, but they are not enough, not for me at least. I am proud of my achievements, and of the fact that my certs are valid represantations of my knowledge and expirience. | |
| fpbaker 2001-12-15, 8:34 pm |
| Actually the first CCIE was 1025 so the current number is about 6500-7000. The guys who got MCSE 2K charter member bricks took the exams when they were in beta so somewhat before the cram session stuff. CCNA and some of the other stuff is not all that brain bending.
Fred P. Baker CCIE#3555 | |
| The Ghost 2001-12-16, 12:57 am |
| Okie dokie , i take it back!
One thing though, we shouldnt judge the numbers of ccie's by the latest ccie number.
ps: thanks chodan! | |
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| dhaj_kc 2001-12-21, 1:04 am |
| asians are well known cheaters...! and that is a fact! students even rioted just so they be given permission to cheat in an exam.
now, u say that u r all these... then prove yourself to belong to such elite group by teaching yourself how to behave like a true certified one. in other words - BE HUMBLE AND RESPECTFUL!!!
YOU BOY HAVE A LOT TO LEARN IN THE REAL WORLD!!!
sorry guys...but the kid is so insulting. | |
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| In UK there was a tv program about a fourteen year old kid in pakistan who had completed his MCSE and also being invited to meet Bill gates at a Microsoft conference.
His knowledge of networking was outstanding and i am pretty certain that was Usman. It seemed this was his hobby and he was not actually looking for work.
I think you should refraim from insulting him without knowing all the facts. He might be Imature but at least he his making the effort to gain knowledge.
And another thing in UK they are planning to make it compulsory subject for 14 year olds to do A+ and some schools are offering Cisco courses in there curriculum.
Knowledge is a very powerful tool so the earlier you get it the better.
I am 36 and i wish we had all this technology when I was 14. So good luck to all who can get the knowledge. | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-21, 1:39 am |
| Sup,
You know what ... all of youuss who got offended by this 14year old's post are fckin insecure.
Come on m8e... I was ammazed to see what a 14 year old can do. And I did not felt any insult..instead I took it as a challange to get all the certifiates that this young person has and more. If this 14 yr old can do it , hell im 21 .. i can do more than he can.
But some of us dont think the way I do.
For youss ..all I can say is..GET OVER IT.
Good stuff Usman..keep it up dude.. go and get all of the certs and be very PROUD. You deserve it.
l8r, | |
| limsam 2001-12-21, 1:54 am |
| A 14 year boy can get the certification in 3 ways
(1) He understands the concepts (albeit with less or no hands on) and he gets it.
In this way, we must appreciate him. He will be a real expert when he matures.
(2) Without understanding much of the concepts, he can memorize the concepts and pass. Even in this case, we may appreciate him since he got a good amazing memory power. He can use his memory effectively to understand the concepts.
(3) He can read the brain dumps and pass!! Then we have to feel sorry for him. (For others also).
In any case, the boy should know how to be humble!. He shouldn't boast by posting a message HIMSELF. Others should do it!!.
So, I advice him to learn humbleness.
FINALLY
To dhaj_kc
asians are well known cheaters...! and that is a fact!
Lick your colonial masters boots. It will be tasty for you. | |
| jel968 2001-12-21, 5:51 am |
| ms is right. I too wish I had all these tools available when I was younger, I could have a six digit salary by now, hehe!!!
Anyway, you're never too old to learn something new. | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-21, 11:33 am |
| guys age does not matter when you are taking exams or attending courses(not talking about experience at this time) i told you also before that i saw some one had got his ccie written and he is just 18 years old . Even i am preparing my brother to attend comptia courses and after that he will give exams also and he is just 13 years old . And usman this is really not good that you said to everybody that you guys are too old to do ccna . Certifications came now before there were no certifications | |
| mamont 2001-12-22, 1:46 am |
| guys, we are repeating the same thing over and over again. isn;t it about time we dropped the subject???
Knowledge is power, bu power corrupts | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-22, 3:24 am |
| ok then lets do it | |
| FastIP 2001-12-22, 4:50 am |
| Usman,
In the real world you are chosen for a job because of your personality, ability and overall knowledge. Good technical skills are a bonus , but company bosses are looking for intelligent people who have more to life than pursuing Certifications.
Gaining certifications is fine, but people will see right through you when you go into interviews and cannot back up the glitzy statements made on your resume
Just my humble opinion.
FastIP | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-22, 5:12 am |
| AGAIN>>>
Sup,
You know what ... all of youuss who got offended by this 14year old's post are fckin insecure.
Come on m8e... I was ammazed to see what a 14 year old can do. And I did not felt any insult..instead I took it as a challange to get all the certifiates that this young person has and more. If this 14 yr old can do it , hell im 21 .. i can do more than he can.
But some of us dont think the way I do.
For youss ..all I can say is..GET OVER IT.
Good stuff Usman..keep it up dude.. go and get all of the certs and be very PROUD. You deserve it.
l8r, | |
| Warfare 2001-12-22, 7:06 am |
| I think we've seen it all and said everything what could be said about this subject.
Can someone kill this thread now or somehting?
I dont think there is nothing left to say except repeating same views or exchanging words. | |
| MichaelC 2001-12-22, 9:35 am |
| Good Job! Now go find Bin Laden!!
I think child prodigies are cool. What does maturity really have to do with computers any way? | |
| jel968 2001-12-22, 12:42 pm |
| Warfare has a point. Kill this thread already. Usman got his certs and that's fine and dandy. We are all working on our own certs. Congrats to Usman. Use your knowledge wisely. Maybe you can open up a training school or something and teach others what you know. | |
| mikeghet 2001-12-22, 1:18 pm |
| Yeah I aggree kill the subject and bin laden!  | |
| Warfare 2001-12-22, 4:24 pm |
| MichaelC
slow down man. No need to start that topic again. We've already been through it and we all know its pointless to make such comments or keep this argument longer than necessary. Let's not get political here and lose the original issue out of sight.
Let us all get along , and communicate with proffesionalism for the best interest of us all and for the sake of this board (not turning it into a flamewar battlefield is something everyone including the webmaster would appreciate )
Anyway,
Welcome to the board and have fun. | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-22, 4:55 pm |
| Sup,
Isnt it possible to dissable it or something...with out killin it, ao that ppl can still have a read at it.
l8r, | |
| Warfare 2001-12-22, 6:30 pm |
| Yup,
Its possible to disable this thread. Thats what i meant with killing it. Hey moderator! if you can hear us set this thread read-only  | |
| Clangashe 2001-12-23, 6:26 am |
| There are a number of post sites i refuse to go to because they can't get out of the gutter. This post is starting to resemble them.
Be kind be helpfull and lets get back to work. | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-23, 6:36 am |
| I will request to everybody please make the environment friendly . We are here to help each other . | |
| scottyman 2001-12-23, 12:14 pm |
| I do nt give A DAMN how much cert or college you have- put yoour cute little XXX to work and then talk shit... | |
| mikeghet 2001-12-24, 6:08 pm |
| if usman really did pass all tyhese exams and could show everybody I do not see what the problem would be, after all he is just a kid and kids can narrow minded. You all would not want any adults talking to your kid like this would you. If this was my kid I would be proud........... | |
| markgrub 2001-12-25, 12:20 pm |
| What a bunch of whining old women some of you people are. Get a life and move on; just how long do you plan on beating this dead horse? This kid pushed the right buttons and you people are dancing like circus monkeys; do you like to entertain this kid or are you just stupid? Right now he is laughing his a-s-s off at you; I'm starting to like this kid. | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-25, 5:32 pm |
| Sup,
muahahahah ...Agreed with markgrub.
l8r, | |
| sbragib 2001-12-26, 3:12 am |
| HEY MS
quote:
In UK there was a tv program about a fourteen year old kid in pakistan who had completed his MCSE and also being invited to meet Bill gates at a Microsoft conference.
The guy is DEFINETLY NOT usman, because I know THAT 11 and half years pakistani kid personnally, His name is "Saquib" he is living in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates with his father, who is working for local Water and Electricity Department. The young chap is very decent, soft spoken and well mannered.
He has done his CNA at 8 and half, MCSE at 11 and half and CCNA at 13. He has set up a small LAB at his home and some times use to come to my office for technical doubts and practice | |
| wbafrank 2001-12-26, 4:37 am |
| After years of experience and no paper I was told the only way up was to pass exams - so at the age of 40 I started putting my knowledge to paper and have since collected MCP (19 exams), MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, M CIW SD, CIW P, CIW A, CCNA, i-Net+, A+ and I'm now working on CCNP (passed 1/4) and all this in 13 months!!
Not bad for an old man who will be picking up his pension soon!! I'm sure I was told at school you learn more when you are younger than when you are older - so who is the better person?? | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-26, 8:41 am |
| sbragib that boy is living in UAE but usman is living in Pakistan(karachi). | |
| sbragib 2001-12-27, 1:08 am |
| Thats right
The boy I am refering to is Also a Pakistani national, his father is working here in UAE. The reason I am sure it was Saquib is because I know he went there with his father and it also appeared in the news with his photo.
It may be possible that Usman may also have been invited to go there........
hey usman want to say something ????? | |
| praspav 2001-12-27, 2:18 am |
| hi neuralfx,
I really wanted to complement you for your views about usman's post...
But unfortunately some of the statements are quite immature.
I don't think one should be making such irresponsible statements which pertain sensitive issues like nationalities and religion.
If your example were to be taken then one should start holding the impression that all americans are infidels going by what your president was upto...
Regards.
Prashanth.
P.S:-Usman is from Pakistan not India and you are no shakespeare too..
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gaofei, thank you for cheating and encouraging other to do so.. oh how can the industry ever thank you... all praise gaofei.
This is exactly the kind of things which ticks me off, you cannot imagine how easy it is for people in the 3rd world countries to pass these exams. People who can't even understand proper english be scoring 90's and shit. It pisses me off cuz I know how hard these exams are but then I see some kid bragging about how easy he found the exams while he can't even structure his phrases right.
XXXX that I wouldn't be surprised if I see a munk from india scoring 1000 on his ccna "budda budda...". | |
| neuralfx 2001-12-27, 2:34 am |
| Praspav wrote
<<hi neuralfx,
I really wanted to complement you for your views about usman's post...
But unfortunately some of the statements are quite immature.
I don't think one should be making such irresponsible statements which pertain sensitive issues like nationalities and religion.
If your example were to be taken then one should start holding the impression that all americans are infidels going by what your president was upto...
Regards.
Prashanth.
P.S:-Usman is from Pakistan not India and you are no shakespeare too..
>>
Ok, Praspav, for one, i think you have either been up too long, and confused yourself, or you have lost your mind. "My immature comments about *nationalism and religion*" .. I think you want to just make up an issue, i havent said two words about that, and i dont see why you are even replying to my post, first post was on the 7th page or so. and had nothing to do with your ramblings .. and the next was just to kill this thread ..
"If your example were to be taken then one should start holding the impression that all americans are infidels going by what your president was upto... " ..
and you are saying this about what i said .. i think you are talking about someone else, but if not, then you're just another one who just makes up issues out of thin air to call americans "infidels" (who said i was american .. heh who is the close minded hypocrite now ..) .. heh well it doesnt surprise me .. again since you took the time to ramble on about things that dont exist, go read through the posts again and find mine .. ugh and i didnt make a mention of where your friend usman is from .. maybe its time to leave the opium alone ..
[edit] after reading through the posts again, i just wanted to reiterate, that you have lost your mind, i dont think you even know where you are to be honest [/edit]
ah and to everyone else .. sorry to lengthin this ridiclous thread heh .. that was just annoying ..
-neural | |
| limsam 2001-12-27, 2:37 am |
| Hi
CCNA is not a test to test your proficiency in English. I do not understand why someone is moaning about English Language proficiency and spelling mistakes etc.
Come on nuts! CCNA or any other certification, computers, science & technoly are NOT sole properties of native English speaker. If so, the college professors in English language will be the IT experts. | |
| haseeb_eng 2001-12-27, 2:59 am |
| I do agree with you guys we should not talk on politics or on religion here . We are here to help each other , to share our knowledge , to learn more . | |
| Imran4sin 2001-12-27, 5:03 pm |
| Sup,
I agree with limsam and haseeb_eng.
Why dont we all just move on..ehh.
Look Usman aint even replyin to any posts no more...so Y not just leave this whea it is .
l8r, | |
| darthfeces 2001-12-27, 5:40 pm |
| please shoot this thread !!! TTL expired | |
| firechicken 2001-12-29, 11:46 pm |
| Hmmm...looks like a case of "rights of passage", which is a definitive sign of puberty. Please contribute when you grow a set, because the peach fuzz bull$shit is as useless as your so called knowledge.
HTH. | |
| Warfare 2001-12-30, 9:39 am |
| No, this is not usman, our wonder kid
The Littlest Security Pro
By Kevin Poulsen
Dec 21 2001 1:19AM PT
A teenaged computer prodigy in India becomes the youngest CISSP in the certification's twelve-year history
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/301 |
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