CCNA - My two cents worth

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My two cents worth

depamo

2001-10-06, 12:55 am

One of the hot topics on this and other sites is that of the 'paper certs'. After much thought and deliberation I decided to make this comment based on past experience.

Quickly (since there are so many others out there with an opinion) it is what you make of it. The certificaiton processes out there are merely guides to help you to gain the necessary capabilities to meet the requirements faced by industry today. With the prices of classes, books, and tests to get certified and compete, it gets really easy to take short cuts to try to get that dream job. With resources to get hands on training so expensive for the individual, it doesn't help much.

Overall, the individual must decide on how to best use the ciriculums so they can participate in a team to manage complex networks. If you choose to merely get the certs and hope that OJT will get you the rest of the way, you are part of the problem that is over-inflating certifications the rest of us try to use to get noticed, in essence bringing us all down every time one get hired and cannot perform to the levels testing companies idnetify their testing verifies.

I have already been around enough companies and expert Network Managers that identify certifications about as valuable as the paper next to the toilet, but all wish that it wasn't so.

In the end, the information in the certifications is there to make you as good at networks as those that have been doing it for a while if you choose to take the time to understand it.

Once you get that job, if you are 'high maintenance' you will not get promoted and your dream job will become a dead-end job. Nobody likes to explain things to someone that was hired expecting to already have certain skills.

ciscogirl

2001-10-06, 8:13 am

I don't disagree with anything you've said. However, everyone need to start somewhere and everyone at some point in their life needs a helping hand.

depamo

2001-10-09, 12:22 am

Someone always thinks that everyone wants the others to fail, that is not what I am saying. It doesn't matter what you do before you start down the networking path, if you paper cert without the intent of understanding the information, just to get a certification and not really attempt to understand the content, that is bad, that is a true paper cert.

If however you take the certifications with a true attempt to understand what the content is trying to teach, that is at least the best attempt to move in the right direction.

I never said that people that only have certifications are less knowledgable or any less capable of executing the duties the certification is director twords, I merely said that people that certify without the intent of learning the content are the source of industries disgust with the certification process.

Silkysmoothe1

2001-10-09, 3:47 pm

That was an appropiate rebuttle,,,I can say that we are in aggreement.

After passing my first cisco test, (this) is how I felt,,,(paper-wise) however, I am making the extra effort to do what you said in your rebuttle. Learn and apply what I have studied so hard to achieve.

I by no means had expectations of finding that dream job but rather, using my certs and degrees to get into the door,,,,and learn the hands on way...

I wish you both well,,,,and good luck...

http://www.examnotes.com/forums/sho...?threadid=24634 case in point,,,,,,

for Depa,,,what kinda bikes you like????

,,,LLLLLLLLLate,,,,silky,,,,

coop

2001-10-09, 6:35 pm

I am looking to get the ICND Cisco Press book for the CCNA but I am not sure where to go. I looked on amazon and cisco's site but I am not sure which one? Could someone give me a link or explanation? Or would you recommend another book?

Thanks.

Silkysmoothe1

2001-10-09, 8:52 pm

quote:
Originally posted by coop
I am looking to get the ICND Cisco Press book for the CCNA but I am not sure where to go. I looked on amazon and cisco's site but I am not sure which one? Could someone give me a link or explanation? Or would you recommend another book?

Thanks.

just about any good bookstore,,,,,I found my CCNP books for less than 45$ at a used book store....( all 4-of them),,,,,

pcwizzard

2001-10-09, 9:14 pm

BRAVO!!!! More people like you need to speak out and make yourselves heard. Maybe then our certs would start to mean something again. Unfortunately some people want to take the easy way out and dont care what it does to the hard working individuals that bust their @#$% to learn and get certified.

depamo

2001-10-09, 11:03 pm

Here is the link for the book. I don't endorse this site, can take up to a week to get a book from here and it will only be upto 2-3 dollars cheaper once you tack on the shipping. So get it locally but use the picture in the link to know what the most up-to-date cert book looks like.

The questions will change with the times and new industry requirements so it is pretty essential to get the most up to date version.

http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/book...isbn=0735709718

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